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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:37:53 GMT, Gene Kearns
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Short oil change intervals are not a bad idea, at least you are
removing dirt and acids from the engine.


Short oil changes *can* be a bad idea.

Every time you start/service your engine, you have what is called "dry
run". This is when an engine is running, but proper oil pressure has
not been reached. Have you ever noticed how you oil light stays on a
few seconds more after an oil change? That is dry run, and its a
killer to an engine.

Our lab did extensive testing on the subject, and found that (of
course) engine with more dry run time had *significantly* more
wear/damage.

Think about it...change your oil every 5k...assume 2 seconds of dry
run for each change, over the course of 100k miles, that's 40 seconds.

Now change your oil every 1k...that's a whopping accrued dry run time
of 3 minutes and 20 seconds for 100k miles!

Anybody ever seen the inside of an engine after it has ran for over 3
minutes with no oil pressure? I have, and it aint pretty.

Listen to the engine manufacturer (not your lube store) and do NOT
over service.



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To All:

Years ago their was a Miracle Additive, that was on Late Night Infomercial,
that would eliminate 99% of the heat and friction. They would run the car
with this additive for a few hundred miles, drain the engine, remove the oil
filter and then run it all over town for hundreds of miles. The engine was
" perfect" and it wouldn't even get hot. They then had Mario Andretti do
the same thing over a race course, of course, he won the race. They then
would remove the value covers, throw dirt into the engine, spray it with
water, cut the radiator lines, red line the engine and the engine was
"perfect".

This product had endorsements from God and the world. For some reason I
don't see this product being advertised anymore. I wonder what happened.
; ) I would have thought this would have taken over the lubrication
industry.

PS - Does anyone remember the name of the product. I would like to do a
Google.


"Netsock" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:37:53 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:


Short oil change intervals are not a bad idea, at least you are
removing dirt and acids from the engine.


Short oil changes *can* be a bad idea.

Every time you start/service your engine, you have what is called "dry
run". This is when an engine is running, but proper oil pressure has
not been reached. Have you ever noticed how you oil light stays on a
few seconds more after an oil change? That is dry run, and its a
killer to an engine.

Our lab did extensive testing on the subject, and found that (of
course) engine with more dry run time had *significantly* more
wear/damage.

Think about it...change your oil every 5k...assume 2 seconds of dry
run for each change, over the course of 100k miles, that's 40 seconds.

Now change your oil every 1k...that's a whopping accrued dry run time
of 3 minutes and 20 seconds for 100k miles!

Anybody ever seen the inside of an engine after it has ran for over 3
minutes with no oil pressure? I have, and it aint pretty.

Listen to the engine manufacturer (not your lube store) and do NOT
over service.



__

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."

http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/



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PS - I forget they also removed the oil pan to make sure there was no oil in
the car.


"Smithers" Yes, Smithers is not my real name. wrote in message
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To All:

Years ago their was a Miracle Additive, that was on Late Night
Infomercial, that would eliminate 99% of the heat and friction. They
would run the car with this additive for a few hundred miles, drain the
engine, remove the oil filter and then run it all over town for hundreds
of miles. The engine was " perfect" and it wouldn't even get hot. They
then had Mario Andretti do the same thing over a race course, of course,
he won the race. They then would remove the value covers, throw dirt into
the engine, spray it with water, cut the radiator lines, red line the
engine and the engine was "perfect".

This product had endorsements from God and the world. For some reason I
don't see this product being advertised anymore. I wonder what happened.
; ) I would have thought this would have taken over the lubrication
industry.

PS - Does anyone remember the name of the product. I would like to do a
Google.


"Netsock" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:37:53 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:


Short oil change intervals are not a bad idea, at least you are
removing dirt and acids from the engine.


Short oil changes *can* be a bad idea.

Every time you start/service your engine, you have what is called "dry
run". This is when an engine is running, but proper oil pressure has
not been reached. Have you ever noticed how you oil light stays on a
few seconds more after an oil change? That is dry run, and its a
killer to an engine.

Our lab did extensive testing on the subject, and found that (of
course) engine with more dry run time had *significantly* more
wear/damage.

Think about it...change your oil every 5k...assume 2 seconds of dry
run for each change, over the course of 100k miles, that's 40 seconds.

Now change your oil every 1k...that's a whopping accrued dry run time
of 3 minutes and 20 seconds for 100k miles!

Anybody ever seen the inside of an engine after it has ran for over 3
minutes with no oil pressure? I have, and it aint pretty.

Listen to the engine manufacturer (not your lube store) and do NOT
over service.



__

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."

http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/





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Smithers wrote:
To All:

Years ago their was a Miracle Additive, that was on Late Night Infomercial,
that would eliminate 99% of the heat and friction. They would run the car
with this additive for a few hundred miles, drain the engine, remove the oil
filter and then run it all over town for hundreds of miles. The engine was
" perfect" and it wouldn't even get hot. They then had Mario Andretti do
the same thing over a race course, of course, he won the race. They then
would remove the value covers, throw dirt into the engine, spray it with
water, cut the radiator lines, red line the engine and the engine was
"perfect".

This product had endorsements from God and the world. For some reason I
don't see this product being advertised anymore. I wonder what happened.
; ) I would have thought this would have taken over the lubrication
industry.

PS - Does anyone remember the name of the product. I would like to do a
Google.


I don't remember the name, but I did see this same engine, every week,
sitting and idling at a flea market by where I lived, it didn't have an
oil pan on it, and was supposed to show the incredible results of the
product. The thing idled so slow it barely ran, and when you wasn't
looking, the guy would squirt oil on the rod bearings. Come to find
out, the guy replaced the bearings with leather that soaked oil, and
provided padding.

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Smithers wrote:

To All:

Years ago their was a Miracle Additive, that was on Late Night Infomercial,
that would eliminate 99% of the heat and friction. They would run the car
with this additive for a few hundred miles, drain the engine, remove the oil
filter and then run it all over town for hundreds of miles. The engine was
" perfect" and it wouldn't even get hot. They then had Mario Andretti do
the same thing over a race course, of course, he won the race. They then
would remove the value covers, throw dirt into the engine, spray it with
water, cut the radiator lines, red line the engine and the engine was
"perfect".

This product had endorsements from God and the world. For some reason I
don't see this product being advertised anymore. I wonder what happened.
; ) I would have thought this would have taken over the lubrication
industry.

PS - Does anyone remember the name of the product. I would like to do a
Google.



I don't remember the name, but I did see this same engine, every week,
sitting and idling at a flea market by where I lived, it didn't have an
oil pan on it, and was supposed to show the incredible results of the
product. The thing idled so slow it barely ran, and when you wasn't
looking, the guy would squirt oil on the rod bearings. Come to find
out, the guy replaced the bearings with leather that soaked oil, and
provided padding.


What were you selling at the flea market, Kevin?


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before the Federal Trade Commission stepped in and
demanded proof, just like they did to the Splitfire sparkplugs.



You mean the ones where the electrode's would break off and jam
themselves into the head , piston, and valves???


I remember back in the 60's J.C.Whitney was selling "Fire Injector"
sparkplugs. My dad bout a set to put in our '60 Plymouth stationwagon
w/ a 383...

Fire Injector? more like "Foul inductor"

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I believe you are referring to Prolong, a snake oil additive that was
popular some years back before the Federal Trade Commission stepped in and
demanded proof, just like they did to the Splitfire sparkplugs.

Bill Grannis
service manager




Here's what Bill is talking about:

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1999/09/prolong.htm

But you CAN still buy the stuff:

http://www.prolongsales.com/?gclid=C...FQP4PgodaihaCw

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Bill,
That's the one. There are still selling it, but it looks like they are
getting around the FTC by using the Internet instead of TV.

http://www.prolong.com/Main.aspx

Here is the transcript of the infomercial. This was one of the most
impressive, unbelievable ads I had ever seen.

http://www.ftc.gov/os/1999/09/pslcmp.htm

and the complaint against the company.

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1999/09/prolong.htm


When I was Googling Prolong, I also found something Harry might find
helpful.

http://www.askmen.com/love/product_g...ct_review.html


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"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
k.net...
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Years ago their was a Miracle Additive, that was on Late Night
Infomercial,
that would eliminate 99% of the heat and friction. They would run the
car
with this additive for a few hundred miles, drain the engine, remove the
oil
filter and then run it all over town for hundreds of miles. The engine
was
" perfect" and it wouldn't even get hot.


This product had endorsements from God and the world. For some reason I
don't see this product being advertised anymore. I wonder what
happened.
; ) I would have thought this would have taken over the lubrication
industry.

PS - Does anyone remember the name of the product. I would like to do a
Google.




I believe you are referring to Prolong, a snake oil additive that was
popular some years back before the Federal Trade Commission stepped in and
demanded proof, just like they did to the Splitfire sparkplugs.

Bill Grannis
service manager



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