"Don White" wrote in message
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Wayne.B wrote:
On 16 Dec 2005 23:34:08 -0800, wrote:


If I control my own destiny and don't let other people determine
what my reactionary behavior "has to be", the group will be a little
bit better than if I go out of my way to pick fights, call names, start
attack threads, join in a pig pile, etc. If one or two other people
also try to stay out of fights, avoid name calling, avoid pig piling,
and refrain from launching attack threads then the group gets better
yet.


======================

Absolutely right. It's called leading by example. Let everyone's
posts here reflect what they would lke the entire group to be like.


Maybe you can get on your 'high horse' and plonk Bert for posting what he
claims are Harry's statistics. I would say that could be considered 'not
contributing much'...eh?


Is this the tone you plan to keep Don?

Harry,

Can you imagine taking your bride on a little cruise on this sailboat?
http://www.starclippers.com/ships_rc.html

They are actually participating in the Antigua Regatta this year.

The Clipper sails in both the Mediterranean and the Caribbean, so you could
actually take a long vacation, do the Med. sail the boat across the
Atlantic, and then do the Grenadine Islands.

This might be the best looking Ship I have ever seen.



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On 16 Dec 2005 23:34:08 -0800, wrote:


If I control my own destiny and don't let other people determine
what my reactionary behavior "has to be", the group will be a little
bit better than if I go out of my way to pick fights, call names, start
attack threads, join in a pig pile, etc. If one or two other people
also try to stay out of fights, avoid name calling, avoid pig piling,
and refrain from launching attack threads then the group gets better
yet.

======================

Absolutely right. It's called leading by example. Let everyone's
posts here reflect what they would lke the entire group to be like.


Maybe you can get on your 'high horse' and plonk Bert for posting what he
claims are Harry's statistics. I would say that could be considered 'not
contributing much'...eh?


Some people lead such dull lives their only enjoyment is trying to live
vicariously through others, if you get my meaning. Guess I missed the post
you mentioned, Don. Oh well.

Imagine the results for a program that counted up posts totally devoid of
useful or even interesting content, and attributed them to their
particular users. I suspect "the seven sisters" would be engraved in
*that* book of gold.

Let him be the one to start disrupting the group again Paul. Be a better
person and drop it.


"P Fritz" wrote in message
...
It will be the same thing that happened every other time, harry won't get
enough attention and will magically lose his non existant killfile and
will
continue the personal insults non stop.

Similar to when chuckie took his ball and bat and ran home, only to return
with a new level of coy snarkiness.

"Smithers" Yes, Smithers is not my real name. wrote in message
. ..
Paul,
Let's not add to the problem. I think it will be very interesting to see
what would happen if people didn't bite when other people went trolling.
Sometimes it is very hard not to, but it really would be interest to see
the
reaction when the trolling doing get any bite.


"P Fritz" wrote in message
...
Harry cannot help it, he just keeps proving he has a problem

"The other "punishment" narcissists mete out is banishing you from
their
glorious presence"

"The narcissist expects that you will be devastated by the withdrawal
of
her/his divine attention, so that after a while -- a few weeks or
months
(i.e., the next time the narcissist needs to use you for something) --
the
narcissist will expect you to have learned your lesson and be eager to
return to the fold. If you have learned your lesson"

"They can't see that they have a problem; it's always somebody else
who
has the problem and needs to change"

"Smithers" Yes, Smithers is not my real name. wrote in message
news Remember, when Harry makes a post like this he is trolling, don't
bite.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Wayne.B wrote:

My guess is that even if I don't engage them directly or indirectly,
the
garbage cannot help itself, and it will continue in its snarly,
smelly
ways.

I'll excise some of them for a while, though. Or at least think
about
it.

South of you. It was in the low 30's last night.


"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:49:23 -0500, "Smithers" Yes, Smithers is not my
real name. wrote:

JohnH,
It must be cold as hell up there. Any snow yet?


"JohnH" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:28:18 -0500, "Smithers" Yes, Smithers is not my
real name. wrote:

Remember, when Harry makes a post like this he is trolling, don't bite.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:d7Kdnfl4uPfg1DnenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast. com...
Wayne.B wrote:

My guess is that even if I don't engage them directly or indirectly,
the
garbage cannot help itself, and it will continue in its snarly, smelly
ways.

I'll excise some of them for a while, though. Or at least think about
it.


I wonder if Wayne and Chuck notice that?

Had some snow week before last, with a touch a couple days ago. Today the
temp is in the 50's, and
the sun is sporadically making an appearance.

Where are you, roughly?
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****

JimH,
If you are up to pampering your wife check out this ship:

http://www.starclippers.com/galleryn...est_centre.htm

This is one of those 360 degree viewers showing how elegant this beauty is.
They have some really nice pictures.




" JimH" wrote in message
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"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:55:25 -0500, "P Fritz"
wrote:


"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 06:42:51 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

That means, of course, that I will not be responding to certain
posters
here and, once I get my filters up and running again, I hopefully
won't
see much of their excrement.

We'll give it a shot and see what happens.

=======================

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised but it will take some resolve
on everyone's part.




Maybe. I've got most of the garbage filtered, and it's easy enough to
add
to the filter database. We'll see.

Your "filtering" won't last a week! You won't be able to stand not
reading
what everyone else is posting.


"The other "punishment" narcissists mete out is banishing you from their
glorious presence"

"The narcissist expects that you will be devastated by the withdrawal
of
her/his divine attention, so that after a while -- a few weeks or months
(i.e., the next time the narcissist needs to use you for something) --
the
narcissist will expect you to have learned your lesson and be eager to
return to the fold. If you have learned your lesson"

"They can't see that they have a problem; it's always somebody else who
has the problem and needs to change"





None of us has to change, except for not taking the bait when he puts out
his trolls. He's stated
over and over his intentions here, which are to fight with conservatives.
His sig line is just
another example of same.
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****



John, I am sure this has been tried every Christmas season since Harry has
been here. I know it was attempted last year.
You can see the results.

I compliment you for your effort though. Best of luck with this and Merry
Christmas.

Smithers, it is acceptable to carry on a normal chat here. You don't have
to go to the extreme of making each and every post boating related.

We need to cut out the swearing and name calling. If we can achieve that
the other will fall in line..... it is then IMO it is mission accomplished.

You don't have to google up some article about a boat with every reply you
make.

Merry Christmas.




"Smithers" Yes, Smithers is not my real name. wrote in message
...
JimH,
If you are up to pampering your wife check out this ship:

http://www.starclippers.com/galleryn...est_centre.htm

This is one of those 360 degree viewers showing how elegant this beauty
is. They have some really nice pictures.




" JimH" wrote in message
...

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:55:25 -0500, "P Fritz"
wrote:


"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 06:42:51 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

That means, of course, that I will not be responding to certain
posters
here and, once I get my filters up and running again, I hopefully
won't
see much of their excrement.

We'll give it a shot and see what happens.

=======================

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised but it will take some
resolve
on everyone's part.




Maybe. I've got most of the garbage filtered, and it's easy enough
to
add
to the filter database. We'll see.

Your "filtering" won't last a week! You won't be able to stand not
reading
what everyone else is posting.


"The other "punishment" narcissists mete out is banishing you from their
glorious presence"

"The narcissist expects that you will be devastated by the withdrawal
of
her/his divine attention, so that after a while -- a few weeks or months
(i.e., the next time the narcissist needs to use you for something) --
the
narcissist will expect you to have learned your lesson and be eager to
return to the fold. If you have learned your lesson"

"They can't see that they have a problem; it's always somebody else
who
has the problem and needs to change"





None of us has to change, except for not taking the bait when he puts
out his trolls. He's stated
over and over his intentions here, which are to fight with
conservatives. His sig line is just
another example of same.
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****



John, I am sure this has been tried every Christmas season since Harry
has been here. I know it was attempted last year.
You can see the results.

I compliment you for your effort though. Best of luck with this and
Merry Christmas.

As is the netcopping

" JimH" wrote in message
...
Please drop it already Paul.

It is getting old.


"P Fritz" wrote in message
...
Harry cannot help it, he just keeps proving he has a problem

"The other "punishment" narcissists mete out is banishing you from their
glorious presence"

"The narcissist expects that you will be devastated by the withdrawal
of
her/his divine attention, so that after a while -- a few weeks or months
(i.e., the next time the narcissist needs to use you for something) --
the
narcissist will expect you to have learned your lesson and be eager to
return to the fold. If you have learned your lesson"

"They can't see that they have a problem; it's always somebody else who
has the problem and needs to change"

"Smithers" Yes, Smithers is not my real name. wrote in message
news
Remember, when Harry makes a post like this he is trolling, don't bite.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Wayne.B wrote:

My guess is that even if I don't engage them directly or indirectly,
the
garbage cannot help itself, and it will continue in its snarly,
smelly
ways.

I'll excise some of them for a while, though. Or at least think about
it.

" JimH" wrote in message
...

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:55:25 -0500, "P Fritz"
wrote:


"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 06:42:51 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

That means, of course, that I will not be responding to certain
posters
here and, once I get my filters up and running again, I hopefully
won't
see much of their excrement.

We'll give it a shot and see what happens.

=======================

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised but it will take some
resolve
on everyone's part.




Maybe. I've got most of the garbage filtered, and it's easy enough
to
add
to the filter database. We'll see.

Your "filtering" won't last a week! You won't be able to stand not
reading
what everyone else is posting.


"The other "punishment" narcissists mete out is banishing you from their
glorious presence"

"The narcissist expects that you will be devastated by the withdrawal
of
her/his divine attention, so that after a while -- a few weeks or months
(i.e., the next time the narcissist needs to use you for something) --
the
narcissist will expect you to have learned your lesson and be eager to
return to the fold. If you have learned your lesson"

"They can't see that they have a problem; it's always somebody else
who
has the problem and needs to change"





None of us has to change, except for not taking the bait when he puts
out
his trolls. He's stated
over and over his intentions here, which are to fight with
conservatives.
His sig line is just
another example of same.
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****



John, I am sure this has been tried every Christmas season since Harry has
been here. I know it was attempted last year.
You can see the results.

I compliment you for your effort though. Best of luck with this and Merry
Christmas.

Exactly.

Smithers wrote:
Don,

Is Halifax still a stopping off point for the Tall Ships when they go on
tour through the Great Lakes? I was in Quebec when they came thru on the
way to Chicago. There must have been 15 ships, some in the process of being
restored, and some in pristine condition. It seems that there are more
people who are interested in the 'romance" of the old wooden tall ships.

I also saw some great Windjammer Boats in the VI's and they seem to be
booked up well in advance.

But the best Tall Ship I have seen was on TV the other night, I was a newly
built Clipper Ship called the Royal Clipper. You can see the details here
http://www.starclippers.com/ships_rc.html .

The best part it is fully automated so the guest can play around with
raising and lowering the sails, but it can really be done with very few
crewman.

It is a beauty.



That is a beauty...but I'm partial to topsail schooners...
see:
http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/flinn/bluenose/index.html
The tall ships always stop here for about a week when the tour is on or
a race is taking place.
see: http://museum.gov.ns.ca/mma/tallships.html
My good buddy (best man at my wedding once worked for the Windjammer
fleet...he was captain on one of the tall ships.
Once he was 1st mate on the supply ship that traveled from Florida, all
the way to Aruba, and any points in between where Windjammer had a boat.
I kicked myself for not taking a leave from work to do that month long
journey.
here's a few photos of some of my sailing waters.
http://www.richardvroom.ca/cgi-bin/d...on=nova_Scotia

JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

Wayne.B wrote:

On 16 Dec 2005 23:34:08 -0800, wrote:



If I control my own destiny and don't let other people determine
what my reactionary behavior "has to be", the group will be a little
bit better than if I go out of my way to pick fights, call names, start
attack threads, join in a pig pile, etc. If one or two other people
also try to stay out of fights, avoid name calling, avoid pig piling,
and refrain from launching attack threads then the group gets better
yet.


======================

Absolutely right. It's called leading by example. Let everyone's
posts here reflect what they would lke the entire group to be like.


Maybe you can get on your 'high horse' and plonk Bert for posting what he
claims are Harry's statistics. I would say that could be considered 'not
contributing much'...eh?



Is this the tone you plan to keep Don?


I'm a product of my environment.....
When someone wants to make a point of attacking me for non-contributing,
I may point out their inconsistencies.
If we all want to stick to boating...I'll contribute what I can.
Does this mean you'll quit provoking Atl_man2? That would be a great
help in cleaning up the noise ratio.