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We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one
if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A
larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My
28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but
small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older
I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months
is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt
docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years,
"A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here
have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat?


I have thought of a 27' boat. Must be trailerable behind a 3/4T diesel.
One I could spend a week cruising the San Juans, or tow to Florida and spend
a couple of months in the area, with some nights in hotels. But I like my
21' alum jet boat, so would keep that.

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one
if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A
larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My
28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but
small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older
I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months
is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt
docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years,
"A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here
have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat?


I have thought of a 27' boat. Must be trailerable behind a 3/4T diesel.
One I could spend a week cruising the San Juans, or tow to Florida and
spend a couple of months in the area, with some nights in hotels. But I
like my 21' alum jet boat, so would keep that.


Bill,
What make is your aluminum jet boat?
Bryan

JohnH,
Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500

http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm


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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, "

wrote:

We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one
if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A
larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My
28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but
small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older
I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months
is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt
docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years,
"A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here
have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat?

I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I
convince myself
that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine.

But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it
serious
thought.



There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a
lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an
"equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer?

I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to
give a number
without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a
big
decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200).



--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes

On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 14:07:31 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 11:02:44 -0700, "RG" wrote:

I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to
give a number
without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a
big
decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200).


I've decided to stay with my D70 body for now, although the D200 would be a
very nice upgrade. However, it's all I can do to not run out and get my
hands on this new lens that was released the same time as the D200. It
would appear to be the perfect default lens for a Nikon DSLR, and I actually
think I would get more benefit from spending $750 on this lens than on
upgrading the body itself. A great range of focal length and I'm a huge
believer in image stabilization technology. Fortunately, they are very hard
to come by right now, which is keeping me from joining the hunt.

http://tinyurl.com/dsevd



That *is* a nice looking lens. Have you seen any reviews on it? I bought this one:
http://tinyurl.com/aruez and then decided it was too big to carry on the trip we
made. Now I'm considering selling it. I ended up with the 70-300mm lens,
http://tinyurl.com/cn9r5, with which I've been pretty happy.


I'm astonished anyone good photographer would even consider a "super
wide to super tele" lens. The optical challenges alone lead to some
serious compromises.

Are considering 70mm as 'super wide'? Or were you referring to the lens being
considered by RG?

One thing is certain, if it's a Nikon lens, selling for $750, it's not a piece of
junk.

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

"Bryan" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one
if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A
larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My
28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but
small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older
I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months
is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt
docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years,
"A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here
have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat?


I have thought of a 27' boat. Must be trailerable behind a 3/4T diesel.
One I could spend a week cruising the San Juans, or tow to Florida and
spend a couple of months in the area, with some nights in hotels. But I
like my 21' alum jet boat, so would keep that.


Bill,
What make is your aluminum jet boat?
Bryan


Oregon built Jetcraft. Is a 1991 hull, with a 2005 motor. and a 2002 paint
job.

On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 14:03:00 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

wrote:
wrote:
We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one
if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A
larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My
28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but
small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older
I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months
is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt
docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years,
"A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here
have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat?


Sort of going through that at the moment.

We love our boat, but there are a few "isms" we'd change if we could
and we think that a 40-footer would be just a bit bigger than our 36
while still retaining a manageable size.
Our boating budget is adequate, but not extravagant. It was our good
luck to realize a professional windfall recently, and we have
considered using a portion to upgrade the boat. We thought that adding
$100k to what our current boat should bring would keep our total
investment down to a reasonable total, so a new 40-footer ($350k and
up) is definitely out of consideration.

Our next problem is that our boat is reasonably unique, and we wouldn't
find the same characteristics in most available boats.

Looks like we'll spend a good chunk to repaint and refurbish
"Indulgence" and keep her at least a while longer. I've got one bid for
stripping the bottom, repainting the hull and the house, taking all the
teak down to bare wood and refinishing with a first "soak" coat, and
replacing some water-stained interior veneer that seems pretty
reasonable in the mid-30's.
With the 2-year old engine and a face lift, we'd be able to be as proud
as if we found a near bristol used boat- and just the sales commission
to sell "Indulgence" and tax on the difference for a $100k upgrade
would run about half of our cost to make the boat we like so well look
fairly new again.

I crawl through at least one larger boat, 55-70 feet, every month. Nice
to dream about, but
I think that the smallest boat one can safely enjoy in local conditions
is at least as good a choice as the largest boat one can (supposedly)
afford. :-)



If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32 footers,
one a "name brand," and the other built over on the Eastern Shore. After
many years, I've decided that is the optimum size for what I want to do
on the water, especially since I'm usually the only person aboard with
boat-handling skills, and larger boats typically require at least one
additional crew member willing to learn line-handling. Most of my
fishing buddies feel at the top of their form if they can get into the
boat without falling off the dock.

Do you have someone who crews for you on the 36'er? Couldn't you use him/her on
another larger boat?

What are you considering on the Eastern Shore. A friend of mine bought a Judge 27,
and he likes it a lot. But, he got only the 90hp Honda, so his cruising speed is
pretty low (15mph or thereabouts).

The Judge 32 Chesapeake is a nice looking boat.

http://www.judgeyachts.com/32chesapeake/photos.htm

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:30:36 -0700, "RG" wrote:


That *is* a nice looking lens. Have you seen any reviews on it? I bought
this one:
http://tinyurl.com/aruez and then decided it was too big to carry on the
trip we
made. Now I'm considering selling it. I ended up with the 70-300mm lens,
http://tinyurl.com/cn9r5, with which I've been pretty happy.


I've read only one review, and it was very positive. It sure ought to be
for the money. In addition to the 18-70 kit lens, I also have the 70-300
zoom, the ED version. At the time, it seemed like the most logical
compliment to the 18-70 kit lens, and it was very affordable. However, in
practice, I find it is often too long, and I find myself switching back and
forth between the 18-70 and the 70-300 way too often. Either that or I will
often revert to my point and shoot when I have the 70-300 on the D70 and
need a shorter lens to get a shot off quickly. It's clumsy, and I don't
like it.

There are several inherent advantages this 18-200 lens offers over the
18-70/70-300 combo we now use. First and foremost is to have the majority
of the focal range of the combo in a single lens. You give up nothing on
the short end, and still have 350mm on the long end in 35mm equivalence.
11.1x range is not bad. I'd be more than willing to give up the very long
end to have the 18-200 range in a single lens. Much more convenient. From
what I can tell, it is fairly compact in size. Somewhere between the 18-70
and 70-300 in size, which I would find acceptable for a default walk-around
lens. Second, this lens is far superior to the 70-300 zoom. Much faster
focusing with the silent wave motor, just like the 18-70. And third, even
though this lens isn't really any faster nominally than the 18-70 and only
slightly faster than the 70-300, in practicality it is much faster due to
the VR technology. In most situations, image stabilization will give you
2-3 stops more speed than without. Huge feature, especially if you shoot
mostly hand-held, as I do. I have a very nice pair of Canon image
stabilized binocs, and what the image stabilization does for them has to be
experienced to be believed. My next lens purchase will absolutely have
image stabilization technology incorporated into it.

I'm just waiting for supply to catch up with demand, and maybe the price
will soften a bit. But I wouldn't expect that to happen in the next six
months.


I agree with everything you've said. I love the VR on my big lens, but the lens
itself is *big* and heavy. I don't like carrying a huge camera bag just because of
one big lens.

Now, if I could only find a buyer for this one... http://tinyurl.com/aruez

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 14:25:29 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 13:27:09 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

RG wrote:
I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to
give a number
without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a
big
decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200).


I've decided to stay with my D70 body for now, although the D200 would be a
very nice upgrade. However, it's all I can do to not run out and get my
hands on this new lens that was released the same time as the D200. It
would appear to be the perfect default lens for a Nikon DSLR, and I actually
think I would get more benefit from spending $750 on this lens than on
upgrading the body itself. A great range of focal length and I'm a huge
believer in image stabilization technology. Fortunately, they are very hard
to come by right now, which is keeping me from joining the hunt.

http://tinyurl.com/dsevd



These days, I don't make enlargements bigger than 8x10, and by composing
properly, any cropping I do is on the very edges of the frame, so I see
no particular advantage with the D200, although I am sure it is a hell
of a camera.

I think I'm going to wait for the Nikon digital SLR that doesn't add an
"x" factor to the focal length of lenses. If I want to use a fixed focal
length 105 2.5, then 105 is what I want, NOT 150 mm.

My D70 has performed very well for me.

If 105 is what you want, just back off the lens a bit.

The D200 has a few other mods that make it nice besides the higher resolution. One
thing I like is that the flash never pops up automatically. If you want the flash,
there's a button to push and up it pops. Otherwise, the camera sets itself for a
flashless picture. The big monitor is a joy, especially when zooming in to check
focus on a picture. Having the autofocus control on a switch instead of in the menu's
is also nice.

I was very pleased with the D70, but I have to admit I like the D200 better.


Oh, I'm sure the D200 is a gem, but my "problem" is not with the box,
but with lens selection and use. I prefer fixed focal length lenses.
If I want to use a 28 mm lense, then that is what I want. Same with a
very fast 50 mm, or a short 105 tele. Also, my experience tells me the
fixed focal length lenses are sharper at all openings than the zooms.
And, of course, they are faster. Much faster. There's nothing quite like
the 180mm f/2.8D ED-IF AF Nikkor.

My D200 didn't come with a lens. Your lens would do well with it. I'm not sure what
you mean when you say your problem with it is lens selection.

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers"
wrote:

JohnH,
Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500

http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, "

wrote:

We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one
if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A
larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My
28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but
small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older
I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months
is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt
docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years,
"A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here
have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat?

I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I
convince myself
that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine.

But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it
serious
thought.



There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a
lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an
"equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer?

I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to
give a number
without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a
big
decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200).



--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes


That *is* nice, and reasonably priced.

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
wrote:
wrote:
We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one
if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A
larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My
28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but
small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older
I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months
is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt
docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years,
"A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here
have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat?


Sort of going through that at the moment.

We love our boat, but there are a few "isms" we'd change if we could
and we think that a 40-footer would be just a bit bigger than our 36
while still retaining a manageable size.
Our boating budget is adequate, but not extravagant. It was our good
luck to realize a professional windfall recently, and we have
considered using a portion to upgrade the boat. We thought that adding
$100k to what our current boat should bring would keep our total
investment down to a reasonable total, so a new 40-footer ($350k and
up) is definitely out of consideration.

Our next problem is that our boat is reasonably unique, and we wouldn't
find the same characteristics in most available boats.

Looks like we'll spend a good chunk to repaint and refurbish
"Indulgence" and keep her at least a while longer. I've got one bid for
stripping the bottom, repainting the hull and the house, taking all the
teak down to bare wood and refinishing with a first "soak" coat, and
replacing some water-stained interior veneer that seems pretty
reasonable in the mid-30's.
With the 2-year old engine and a face lift, we'd be able to be as proud
as if we found a near bristol used boat- and just the sales commission
to sell "Indulgence" and tax on the difference for a $100k upgrade
would run about half of our cost to make the boat we like so well look
fairly new again.

I crawl through at least one larger boat, 55-70 feet, every month. Nice
to dream about, but
I think that the smallest boat one can safely enjoy in local conditions
is at least as good a choice as the largest boat one can (supposedly)
afford. :-)



If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32 footers, one
a "name brand," and the other built over on the Eastern Shore. After many
years, I've decided that is the optimum size for what I want to do on the
water, especially since I'm usually the only person aboard with
boat-handling skills, and larger boats typically require at least one
additional crew member willing to learn line-handling. Most of my fishing
buddies feel at the top of their form if they can get into the boat
without falling off the dock.

We know what you are looking to get for the Parker.

How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with?