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"Butch Davis" wrote in message
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I'd love to have a bigger boat, but...... I'll need a bigger income to go
with it. I downsized from a 24 SeaRay Sundancer to a 16 Whaler and am
very happy with the change. The Whaler is on a trailer in my back yard.
I can launch and retrieve it by myself under some pretty foul conditions.
It burns so little fuel with a 115 FICHT that it's hardly noticable. It's
a great little fishing boat and with the bimini mounted it makes a nice
little cruiser for the wife and I and another couple if we wish. I can
wash and wax the hull in a couple of hours.

Would I like a larger boat? Absolutely. I'd like to live aboard for a
few weeks at a stretch. I'd like something around 50 feet or less that
will not require a crew. But then comes slip rent, maintenance, etc.
Doubt that I'd do it even if I had the income to support it. If I did,
I'd keep the Whaler anyway just for the fun it provides.

Butch
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We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one
if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A
larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My
28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but
small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older
I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months
is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt
docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years,
"A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here
have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat?




But did you factor in the chiropractor cost?


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On 31 Dec 2005 16:29:49 -0800, "RG" wrote:

Yeah, shutter lag was a big issue, and part of what I lump into my
catch-all that I call responsiveness. In addition to shutter lag, I
missed a direct mechanical zoom ring on the lens with the point and
shoot and I never liked the rangefinder viewing mechanism for
composition, or using the LCD preview for composition for that matter.
All these things I refer to as the responsiveness of the camera, and
the point and shoots just don't get it done for me like an SLR body
does. The only annoyance I've discovered with a DSLR over a point and
shoot is the ever present issue of crud on the sensor. It took a
while, but I've finally gotten fairly competent at cleaning the sensor.
It was never an issue with 35mm film cameras or the point and shoots,
and I was taken by surprise at how much of an issue it is with DSLR's.
Have you found it to be much of an issue?


I concur with almost everything above! No, I've not found the crud on the sensor to
be a big issue, yet. When I sent the D70 in for repair, they cleaned it at no charge.
The D200 is clean because I only infrequently change the lens. When I do, I do it
very fast with the body lens opening held downwards. I try to let gravity be my
friend.

I gave the 5700 to my wife, and she thinks it's just great. I encourage that, 'cause
I don't want her messing with the D200!

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes
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Bill McKee wrote:

Oregon built Jetcraft. Is a 1991 hull, with a 2005 motor. and a 2002 paint
job.


Just out of curiosity is that a Kodiak pump? How many hours
on the pump? Any rebuilds or impeller service needed?

thanks
-rick-
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Harry Krause wrote:
JohnH wrote:

On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, "

wrote:

We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one
if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A
larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My
28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but
small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older
I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months
is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt
docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years,
"A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here
have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat?



I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I
convince myself
that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine.

But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it
serious
thought.



There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a
lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an
"equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer?


http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/3/8/82080038.htm

$55K with twin 200's

http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/7/3/81868773.htm
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JimH wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

wrote:

wrote:

We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one
if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A
larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My
28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but
small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older
I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months
is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt
docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years,
"A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here
have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat?


Sort of going through that at the moment.

We love our boat, but there are a few "isms" we'd change if we could
and we think that a 40-footer would be just a bit bigger than our 36
while still retaining a manageable size.
Our boating budget is adequate, but not extravagant. It was our good
luck to realize a professional windfall recently, and we have
considered using a portion to upgrade the boat. We thought that adding
$100k to what our current boat should bring would keep our total
investment down to a reasonable total, so a new 40-footer ($350k and
up) is definitely out of consideration.

Our next problem is that our boat is reasonably unique, and we wouldn't
find the same characteristics in most available boats.

Looks like we'll spend a good chunk to repaint and refurbish
"Indulgence" and keep her at least a while longer. I've got one bid for
stripping the bottom, repainting the hull and the house, taking all the
teak down to bare wood and refinishing with a first "soak" coat, and
replacing some water-stained interior veneer that seems pretty
reasonable in the mid-30's.
With the 2-year old engine and a face lift, we'd be able to be as proud
as if we found a near bristol used boat- and just the sales commission
to sell "Indulgence" and tax on the difference for a $100k upgrade
would run about half of our cost to make the boat we like so well look
fairly new again.

I crawl through at least one larger boat, 55-70 feet, every month. Nice
to dream about, but
I think that the smallest boat one can safely enjoy in local conditions
is at least as good a choice as the largest boat one can (supposedly)
afford. :-)



If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32 footers, one
a "name brand," and the other built over on the Eastern Shore. After many
years, I've decided that is the optimum size for what I want to do on the
water, especially since I'm usually the only person aboard with
boat-handling skills, and larger boats typically require at least one
additional crew member willing to learn line-handling. Most of my fishing
buddies feel at the top of their form if they can get into the boat
without falling off the dock.



We know what you are looking to get for the Parker.

How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with?


crickets


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Harry,
How many hours are there on your Parker?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers"

wrote:

JohnH,
Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500

http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm


"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, "

wrote:

We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy
one
if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A
larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense.
My
28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but
small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The
older
I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6
months
is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at
pvt
docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for
years,
"A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others
here
have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger
boat?
I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I
convince myself
that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine.

But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give
it serious
thought.


There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a
lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an
"equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer?
I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to
give a number
without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be
a big
decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200).



--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it."
Rene Descartes


That *is* nice, and reasonably priced.


400+ engine hours.



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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers"
wrote:

JohnH,
Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500

http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm


"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, "

wrote:

We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one
if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A
larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My
28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but
small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older
I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months
is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt
docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years,
"A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here
have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat?
I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I
convince myself
that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine.

But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it
serious
thought.


There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a
lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an
"equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer?
I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to
give a number
without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a
big
decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200).



--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes


That *is* nice, and reasonably priced.


400+ engine hours.


Is that a lot for that Yamaha four stroke? How many are on yours?

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes
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"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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wrote:

wrote:

We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one
if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A
larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My
28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but
small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older
I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months
is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt
docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years,
"A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here
have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat?


Sort of going through that at the moment.

We love our boat, but there are a few "isms" we'd change if we could
and we think that a 40-footer would be just a bit bigger than our 36
while still retaining a manageable size.
Our boating budget is adequate, but not extravagant. It was our good
luck to realize a professional windfall recently, and we have
considered using a portion to upgrade the boat. We thought that adding
$100k to what our current boat should bring would keep our total
investment down to a reasonable total, so a new 40-footer ($350k and
up) is definitely out of consideration.

Our next problem is that our boat is reasonably unique, and we wouldn't
find the same characteristics in most available boats.

Looks like we'll spend a good chunk to repaint and refurbish
"Indulgence" and keep her at least a while longer. I've got one bid for
stripping the bottom, repainting the hull and the house, taking all the
teak down to bare wood and refinishing with a first "soak" coat, and
replacing some water-stained interior veneer that seems pretty
reasonable in the mid-30's.
With the 2-year old engine and a face lift, we'd be able to be as proud
as if we found a near bristol used boat- and just the sales commission
to sell "Indulgence" and tax on the difference for a $100k upgrade
would run about half of our cost to make the boat we like so well look
fairly new again.

I crawl through at least one larger boat, 55-70 feet, every month. Nice
to dream about, but
I think that the smallest boat one can safely enjoy in local conditions
is at least as good a choice as the largest boat one can (supposedly)
afford. :-)



If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32 footers, one
a "name brand," and the other built over on the Eastern Shore. After many
years, I've decided that is the optimum size for what I want to do on the
water, especially since I'm usually the only person aboard with
boat-handling skills, and larger boats typically require at least one
additional crew member willing to learn line-handling. Most of my fishing
buddies feel at the top of their form if they can get into the boat
without falling off the dock.



We know what you are looking to get for the Parker.

How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with?

crickets


Yep.

http://tinyurl.com/4ukg4


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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32 footers,
one a "name brand," and the other built over on the Eastern Shore.
After many years, I've decided that is the optimum size for what I
want to do on the water, especially since I'm usually the only person
aboard with boat-handling skills, and larger boats typically require
at least one additional crew member willing to learn line-handling.
Most of my fishing buddies feel at the top of their form if they can
get into the boat without falling off the dock.

We know what you are looking to get for the Parker.

How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with?
crickets


Yep.

http://tinyurl.com/4ukg4



Are you under the delusion I read all of your posts here? Is Dumbo Dan?

The answers: Under $500,000 and everything.





You provided exact details on what was on your 25 footer yet details of what
is on the more luxurious 36 footer is a big secret.

Go figure.

Happy New Year Harry.


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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
ink.net...
JimH wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32
footers, one a "name brand," and the other built over on the Eastern
Shore. After many years, I've decided that is the optimum size for
what I want to do on the water, especially since I'm usually the
only person aboard with boat-handling skills, and larger boats
typically require at least one additional crew member willing to
learn line-handling. Most of my fishing buddies feel at the top of
their form if they can get into the boat without falling off the
dock.
We know what you are looking to get for the Parker.

How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with?
crickets
Yep.

http://tinyurl.com/4ukg4

Are you under the delusion I read all of your posts here? Is Dumbo Dan?

The answers: Under $500,000 and everything.





You provided exact details on what was on your 25 footer yet details of
what is on the more luxurious 36 footer is a big secret.

Go figure.

Happy New Year Harry.


No, I didn't provide "exact details." I provided general details. Exact
details would have been sigificantly more "exact."

Our Parker is a factory production boat. Its particulars are available
on-line at the manufacturer's site. We have some options and I've added a
few. That's all there is to that song.

Why would you care about the price or options on either boat. You're not a
prospective purchaser. I don't recall asking you about the financial
transactions or complete equipment lists relating to your boat.


You did not have to. A full web page with pictures and description was
listed on the net. In fact, you used that source to find out my full name
and phone number. Remember?

Regardless Harry, here is a detailed listing of what was on our 32 footer
when we sold it:





SPECS
· Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives

· LOA 34'9"

· Beam 11'0"

· Dry weight 10,800 lbs

· Deadrise 17 degrees

· Fuel Capacity 186 US gallons

· Waste 30 gallons

· FreshWater 36 gallons

· Cruise at @ 28 mph with top end (fully loaded w/flat sea) @ 40+
mph





EQUIPMENT
· Vacuflush toilet installed professionally in April, 2000

· 16,000 BTU Marine Air Systems, reverse cycle air/heat with digital
controls

· U-Line 115v AC icemaker in cockpit area

· Truecharge 20 amp smart charge battery trickle charger

· Three Group 31 deep cycle batteries with 3 guest switches.
Batteries installed April, 2001

· Atwood electric heat/heat exchanging hot water tank (heat exchanger
connected in 2000).

· Raytheon RL9 LCD radar

· Raytheon RayChart 601XX chart plotter/gps with C-map of western
Lake Erie

· Apelco Fishfinder/GPS/Loran with surface temperature reader

· Raymarine digital depth sounder installed April 2001

· Kenwood Excelon KRC-PS655 receiver (am/fm/cassette) with wireless
remote, installed March, 1999

· Kenwood Excelon 10 disk CD changer installed March, 1999

· Remote spot/flood light
· Transom washdown/shower

· Hot/cold pressure water systems with city connection

· Fortress FX16 aluminum anchor with 10 feet of steel chain and 150
feet of 1/2" line

· Halon 1301 engine compartment automatic extinguisher

· Braided 1/2" dock lines (6), life jackets, CG safety package,
distress kit, 2 large fenders

· Full cockpit Sunbrella cover

· Full Sunbrella bimini with aft curtain, side curtains and
windshield extension Isenglass


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