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"Harry Krause" wrote in message news JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32 footers, one a "name brand," and the other built over on the Eastern Shore. After many years, I've decided that is the optimum size for what I want to do on the water, especially since I'm usually the only person aboard with boat-handling skills, and larger boats typically require at least one additional crew member willing to learn line-handling. Most of my fishing buddies feel at the top of their form if they can get into the boat without falling off the dock. We know what you are looking to get for the Parker. How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with? crickets Yep. http://tinyurl.com/4ukg4 Are you under the delusion I read all of your posts here? Is Dumbo Dan? The answers: Under $500,000 and everything. You provided exact details on what was on your 25 footer yet details of what is on the more luxurious 36 footer is a big secret. Go figure. Happy New Year Harry. No, I didn't provide "exact details." I provided general details. Exact details would have been sigificantly more "exact." Our Parker is a factory production boat. Its particulars are available on-line at the manufacturer's site. We have some options and I've added a few. That's all there is to that song. Why would you care about the price or options on either boat. You're not a prospective purchaser. I don't recall asking you about the financial transactions or complete equipment lists relating to your boat. You did not have to. A full web page with pictures and description was listed on the net. In fact, you used that source to find out my full name and phone number. Remember? Regardless Harry, here is a detailed listing of what was on our 32 footer when we sold it: SPECS · Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives · LOA 34'9" · Beam 11'0" · Dry weight 10,800 lbs Amazing...a 34-foot, twin engine boat whose dry weight is only 4000 pounds more than my 25-footer. High tech materials? I guess so. It was a well built boat, one that took on some pretty nasty seas on Lake Erie without a problem. We were in Leamington, Canada with friend of ours who have a 26 foot Lyman. They absolutely had to leave and the Lake was very nasty. We did not want to leave with the Lake conditions as they were but would not let our friends travel back alone. We ended up leading the way to calm the water for them. Even so, waves were at time coming over their windshield. Yep, it was a well built boat. So tell us about your 36 footer you have for sale. |
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On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:49:44 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:
JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" wrote: JohnH, Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500 http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, " wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I convince myself that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine. But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it serious thought. There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an "equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer? I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to give a number without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a big decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200). -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes That *is* nice, and reasonably priced. 400+ engine hours. Is that a lot for that Yamaha four stroke? How many are on yours? A lot less. Would you consider 400 hours a lot for that Yamaha 4-stroke? -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes |
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JohnH,
A 100 hrs a year does not seem like many hours, especially one used for fishing. If someone used the boat from May to October that is only 4 hrs a week. If someone had "a lot less" hours on their boat, I would be concerned that the lack of use could actually be more detrimental to a outboard engine, than one that is used on a regular basis. Unless the boat was "fogged" after each use, a boat sitting idle can have more problems than a well maintained boat that is used regularly. I would think most people with a $70,000 boat would use the boat at least 100 hrs a year. "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:49:44 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" wrote: JohnH, Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500 http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, " wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I convince myself that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine. But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it serious thought. There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an "equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer? I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to give a number without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a big decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200). -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes That *is* nice, and reasonably priced. 400+ engine hours. Is that a lot for that Yamaha four stroke? How many are on yours? A lot less. Would you consider 400 hours a lot for that Yamaha 4-stroke? -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:49:44 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" wrote: JohnH, Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500 http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, " wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I convince myself that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine. But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it serious thought. There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an "equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer? I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to give a number without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a big decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200). -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes That *is* nice, and reasonably priced. 400+ engine hours. Is that a lot for that Yamaha four stroke? How many are on yours? A lot less. Would you consider 400 hours a lot for that Yamaha 4-stroke? A lot in terms of what, typical lifespan in hours? Depends. If they were careful "Harry" hours, no. If they were 400 hours on the firewall, well, yes, that would be a lot. I'm not your typical outboarder, though. I watch the tach and the fuel flow meter, not the speedometer. So how many hours are on the engine? |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:49:44 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" wrote: JohnH, Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500 http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, " wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I convince myself that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine. But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it serious thought. There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an "equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer? I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to give a number without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a big decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200). -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes That *is* nice, and reasonably priced. 400+ engine hours. Is that a lot for that Yamaha four stroke? How many are on yours? A lot less. Would you consider 400 hours a lot for that Yamaha 4-stroke? A lot in terms of what, typical lifespan in hours? Depends. If they were careful "Harry" hours, no. If they were 400 hours on the firewall, well, yes, that would be a lot. I'm not your typical outboarder, though. I watch the tach and the fuel flow meter, not the speedometer. So how many hours are on the engine? Less than 400. Why do you want to know? You're not a potential purchaser. It's not your business. A legitimate buyer will be allowed to see the service records. What's the big secret Harry? Why are you ashamed of telling us how many hours you put on the engine? |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Would you consider 400 hours a lot for that Yamaha 4-stroke? A lot in terms of what, typical lifespan in hours? Depends. If they were careful "Harry" hours, no. If they were 400 hours on the firewall, well, yes, that would be a lot. I'm not your typical outboarder, though. I watch the tach and the fuel flow meter, not the speedometer. JohnH, Why would anyone buy a boat from anyone but Harry? Since only Harry's boats have "Harry" hours on it. With the cost of fuel, I doubt if many people run an outboard at WOT. If I was buying a used boat, I would ask for a test run, and ask the current owner to helm the boat. You can quickly see how he uses his boat. If his natural instinct is to keep the boat WOT, I would walk away. If you see the owner brings the boat up to plane and then easily adjusts the throttle to run at a comfortable cruise, it is reasonable to expect that is the way he used his boat. I still maintain that a boat that is used infrequently can have more problems that a boat that is used on a regular basis, is well maintained and the owner follows the manufacturers maintenance schedule. People fog the engine so the internal engine does not have problems with rust. If the boat is not used frequently during the season, that can be just as detrimental as a boat that is not fogged during the off season. This discussion does bring up a great on topic discussion. If you were buying a used boat and the owner was being coy or secretive about his engine hours would you consider buying this boat? I would be concerned that either the engine has more than the average hours, and the cost of the boat/engine is overpriced for the hours used or the boat has sat idle for extended periods, which for me would be a major concern. |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:49:44 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" wrote: JohnH, Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500 http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, " wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I convince myself that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine. But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it serious thought. There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an "equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer? I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to give a number without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a big decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200). -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes That *is* nice, and reasonably priced. 400+ engine hours. Is that a lot for that Yamaha four stroke? How many are on yours? A lot less. Would you consider 400 hours a lot for that Yamaha 4-stroke? A lot in terms of what, typical lifespan in hours? Depends. If they were careful "Harry" hours, no. If they were 400 hours on the firewall, well, yes, that would be a lot. I'm not your typical outboarder, though. I watch the tach and the fuel flow meter, not the speedometer. So how many hours are on the engine? Less than 400. Why do you want to know? You're not a potential purchaser. It's not your business. A legitimate buyer will be allowed to see the service records. What's the big secret Harry? Why are you ashamed of telling us how many hours you put on the engine? It's no secret. It's simply none of your business. Yep, you are indeed ashamed of letting everyone know how infrequent you used the boat. So how about some details on your 36 footer you are selling? Perhaps someone here may be interested. |
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Around here, 50-100 hrs a season seems to be the norm. People tend do
do short runs and then hang out all day, rather than constantly cruise. The PIB trips do add up the hours though. :-) "Reggie Smithers" wrote in message ... JohnH, A 100 hrs a year does not seem like many hours, especially one used for fishing. If someone used the boat from May to October that is only 4 hrs a week. If someone had "a lot less" hours on their boat, I would be concerned that the lack of use could actually be more detrimental to a outboard engine, than one that is used on a regular basis. Unless the boat was "fogged" after each use, a boat sitting idle can have more problems than a well maintained boat that is used regularly. I would think most people with a $70,000 boat would use the boat at least 100 hrs a year. "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:49:44 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" wrote: JohnH, Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500 http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, " wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I convince myself that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine. But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it serious thought. There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an "equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer? I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to give a number without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a big decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200). -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes That *is* nice, and reasonably priced. 400+ engine hours. Is that a lot for that Yamaha four stroke? How many are on yours? A lot less. Would you consider 400 hours a lot for that Yamaha 4-stroke? -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:49:44 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" wrote: JohnH, Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500 http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, " wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I convince myself that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine. But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it serious thought. There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an "equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer? I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to give a number without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a big decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200). -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes That *is* nice, and reasonably priced. 400+ engine hours. Is that a lot for that Yamaha four stroke? How many are on yours? A lot less. Would you consider 400 hours a lot for that Yamaha 4-stroke? A lot in terms of what, typical lifespan in hours? Depends. If they were careful "Harry" hours, no. If they were 400 hours on the firewall, well, yes, that would be a lot. I'm not your typical outboarder, though. I watch the tach and the fuel flow meter, not the speedometer. So how many hours are on the engine? Less than 400. Why do you want to know? You're not a potential purchaser. It's not your business. A legitimate buyer will be allowed to see the service records. What's the big secret Harry? Why are you ashamed of telling us how many hours you put on the engine? It's no secret. It's simply none of your business. Yep, you are indeed ashamed of letting everyone know how infrequent you used the boat. No offense, but one of the charming aspects of this newsgroup is the number of simpies who believe they have some sort of "power" over other posters. You're free to draw whatever erroneous conclusions make you happy, Jim. I'm *still* not going to tell you. So how about some details on your 36 footer you are selling? Perhaps someone here may be interested. Yes, I'm sure there are those who are interested in "some details." Not to worry, there is no shortage of potential buyers in the Bay area. What few examples of Lincoln hull designs there are around here are snapped up quickly on the resale market. In fact, there are a couple of guys in the Solomons marina scene here who expressed interest last season. Makes perfect sense to list some details about your 25 foot boat here but not your 36 foot boat when you claim both are for sale. Eh Harry? |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message news JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32 footers, one a "name brand," and the other built over on the Eastern Shore. After many years, I've decided that is the optimum size for what I want to do on the water, especially since I'm usually the only person aboard with boat-handling skills, and larger boats typically require at least one additional crew member willing to learn line-handling. Most of my fishing buddies feel at the top of their form if they can get into the boat without falling off the dock. We know what you are looking to get for the Parker. How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with? crickets Yep. http://tinyurl.com/4ukg4 Are you under the delusion I read all of your posts here? Is Dumbo Dan? The answers: Under $500,000 and everything. You provided exact details on what was on your 25 footer yet details of what is on the more luxurious 36 footer is a big secret. Go figure. Happy New Year Harry. No, I didn't provide "exact details." I provided general details. Exact details would have been sigificantly more "exact." Our Parker is a factory production boat. Its particulars are available on-line at the manufacturer's site. We have some options and I've added a few. That's all there is to that song. Why would you care about the price or options on either boat. You're not a prospective purchaser. I don't recall asking you about the financial transactions or complete equipment lists relating to your boat. You did not have to. A full web page with pictures and description was listed on the net. In fact, you used that source to find out my full name and phone number. Remember? Regardless Harry, here is a detailed listing of what was on our 32 footer when we sold it: SPECS · Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives · LOA 34'9" · Beam 11'0" · Dry weight 10,800 lbs Amazing...a 34-foot, twin engine boat whose dry weight is only 4000 pounds more than my 25-footer. High tech materials? You actually stepped in it again Harry. The weight/foot of my 32 foot boat is still far greater than your 25 footer......65 1/2 pounds/foot to be exact. Tee-hee. ;-) |
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