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JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:49:44 -0500, Harry Krause
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JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause
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JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers"

wrote:

JohnH,
Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500

http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm


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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause
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JohnH wrote:
On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, "

wrote:

We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we
really buy one
if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is
ideal for me. A
larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more
expense. My
28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of
things but
small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a
lot. The older
I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This
past 6 months
is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I
kept her at pvt
docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard
about for years,
"A boats use is inversely proportional to her length".
Do others here
have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want
a bigger boat?
I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After
a while I convince myself
that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine.

But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that
Parker, I'd give it serious
thought.

There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000.
It has a
lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be
an
"equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your
best offer?
I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I
wouldn't want to give a number
without having made the decision to go for another boat,
which would be a big
decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200).



--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible
and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes
That *is* nice, and reasonably priced.
400+ engine hours.
Is that a lot for that Yamaha four stroke? How many are on
yours?

A lot less.
Would you consider 400 hours a lot for that Yamaha 4-stroke?

A lot in terms of what, typical lifespan in hours? Depends. If
they were careful "Harry" hours, no. If they were 400 hours on the
firewall, well, yes, that would be a lot.

I'm not your typical outboarder, though. I watch the tach and the
fuel flow meter, not the speedometer.

So how many hours are on the engine?
Less than 400.

Why do you want to know? You're not a potential purchaser. It's not
your business.

A legitimate buyer will be allowed to see the service records.

What's the big secret Harry? Why are you ashamed of telling us how
many hours you put on the engine?
It's no secret. It's simply none of your business.

Yep, you are indeed ashamed of letting everyone know how infrequent you
used the boat.

No offense, but one of the charming aspects of this newsgroup is the
number of simpies who believe they have some sort of "power" over other
posters. You're free to draw whatever erroneous conclusions make you
happy, Jim. I'm *still* not going to tell you.


So how about some details on your 36 footer you are selling? Perhaps
someone here may be interested.
Yes, I'm sure there are those who are interested in "some details." Not
to worry, there is no shortage of potential buyers in the Bay area. What
few examples of Lincoln hull designs there are around here are snapped
up quickly on the resale market. In fact, there are a couple of guys in
the Solomons marina scene here who expressed interest last season.



Makes perfect sense to list some details about your 25 foot boat here but
not your 36 foot boat when you claim both are for sale. Eh Harry?


I've listed "some details" of both boats here from time to time. Sorry,
but with your price of admission, that's all you get.

Now, you should move on, because you are going to get nowhere on your
present course of action. You're not in charge.



How much did you have to pay for winterization of your 36 footer and where
is it stored?


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Harry,

I have to agree with you on this one. I think you should be able to provide
as much or as little information as you feel comfortable doing. If you do
not feel comfortable discussing how often you use your boat or the number of
hours on your boat, you should not do it. I have trouble understanding why
this information should be secret, but that is your prerogative. I just
know I would never buy a boat from anyone who was not upfront with the
number of hours on the engine.

I for one, follow the advice of Internet Security Experts who recommend no
one provide any personal information in public newsgroups, and for that
reason I do keep my personal information (i.e. Name, telephone number,
social security number etc) off of rec.boats. I would actually recommend
anyone who uses their real name in change it to a handle. It would be too
easy for someone to use the internet to harass someone or cause them
financial or personal harm.

Since you don't want to discuss the number of hours on your boat engine
(which I would not consider personal info), I am sure you can understand why
some people prefer not to publish personal information in a public NG.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:49:44 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers"

wrote:

JohnH,
Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500

http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm


"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, "

wrote:

We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we
really buy one
if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is
ideal for me. A
larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more
expense. My
28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of
things but
small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a
lot. The older
I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This
past 6 months
is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I
kept her at pvt
docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard
about for years,
"A boats use is inversely proportional to her length".
Do others here
have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want
a bigger boat?
I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After
a while I convince myself
that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine.

But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that
Parker, I'd give it serious
thought.

There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000.
It has a
lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be
an
"equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your
best offer?
I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I
wouldn't want to give a number
without having made the decision to go for another boat,
which would be a big
decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200).



--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible
and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes
That *is* nice, and reasonably priced.
400+ engine hours.
Is that a lot for that Yamaha four stroke? How many are on
yours?

A lot less.
Would you consider 400 hours a lot for that Yamaha 4-stroke?

A lot in terms of what, typical lifespan in hours? Depends. If
they were careful "Harry" hours, no. If they were 400 hours on the
firewall, well, yes, that would be a lot.

I'm not your typical outboarder, though. I watch the tach and the
fuel flow meter, not the speedometer.

So how many hours are on the engine?
Less than 400.

Why do you want to know? You're not a potential purchaser. It's not
your business.

A legitimate buyer will be allowed to see the service records.

What's the big secret Harry? Why are you ashamed of telling us how
many hours you put on the engine?
It's no secret. It's simply none of your business.

Yep, you are indeed ashamed of letting everyone know how infrequent you
used the boat.

No offense, but one of the charming aspects of this newsgroup is the
number of simpies who believe they have some sort of "power" over other
posters. You're free to draw whatever erroneous conclusions make you
happy, Jim. I'm *still* not going to tell you.


So how about some details on your 36 footer you are selling? Perhaps
someone here may be interested.
Yes, I'm sure there are those who are interested in "some details." Not
to worry, there is no shortage of potential buyers in the Bay area. What
few examples of Lincoln hull designs there are around here are snapped
up quickly on the resale market. In fact, there are a couple of guys in
the Solomons marina scene here who expressed interest last season.



Makes perfect sense to list some details about your 25 foot boat here but
not your 36 foot boat when you claim both are for sale. Eh Harry?


I've listed "some details" of both boats here from time to time. Sorry,
but with your price of admission, that's all you get.

Now, you should move on, because you are going to get nowhere on your
present course of action. You're not in charge.



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Harry Krause wrote:

I've listed "some details" of both boats here from time to time. Sorry,
but with your price of admission, that's all you get.

Now, you should move on, because you are going to get nowhere on your
present course of action. You're not in charge.



JimH seems awfully interested in your boats. Maybe he's thinking of
making an offer one one or the other.
What other reason would he have for his incessant questioning?
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Oregon built Jetcraft. Is a 1991 hull, with a 2005 motor. and a 2002
paint job.


Just out of curiosity is that a Kodiak pump? How many hours on the pump?
Any rebuilds or impeller service needed?

thanks
-rick-


Yes, Kodiak. Original stainless impellers. I have touched up the edges a
couple of times, and have replaced the cutlass bearings and seals a couple
of times. I have about 1600 hours on the boat. Kodiak 3 stage. I did have
the pump gone through when I swapped motors this year (actually last year)
and he shimed the impellers, as he said that a lot of the Kodiaks had the
wrong spacing to the stators. Phil Taylor of Jetstream Concepts in Yuba
City, CA did the work. I have changed the thrust bearing twice.


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Harry Krause wrote:

Dan Krueger wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

JohnH wrote:

On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, "

wrote:

We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one
if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A
larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My
28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but
small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older
I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months
is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt
docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years,
"A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here
have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat?


I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I
convince myself
that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine.

But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give
it serious
thought.


There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a
lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an
"equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer?


http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/3/8/82080038.htm

$55K with twin 200's

http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/7/3/81868773.htm





D'oh. Older boats and not the same model. Hardly "equivalent."


Understood. I never said equivalent - these are alternatives for the
guy shopping for a Parker.


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JimH wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:

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JimH wrote:

"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32
footers, one a "name brand," and the other built over on the Eastern
Shore. After many years, I've decided that is the optimum size for
what I want to do on the water, especially since I'm usually the
only person aboard with boat-handling skills, and larger boats
typically require at least one additional crew member willing to
learn line-handling. Most of my fishing buddies feel at the top of
their form if they can get into the boat without falling off the
dock.

We know what you are looking to get for the Parker.

How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with?

crickets

Yep.

http://tinyurl.com/4ukg4

Are you under the delusion I read all of your posts here? Is Dumbo Dan?

The answers: Under $500,000 and everything.





You provided exact details on what was on your 25 footer yet details of
what is on the more luxurious 36 footer is a big secret.

Go figure.

Happy New Year Harry.


No, I didn't provide "exact details." I provided general details. Exact
details would have been sigificantly more "exact."

Our Parker is a factory production boat. Its particulars are available
on-line at the manufacturer's site. We have some options and I've added a
few. That's all there is to that song.

Why would you care about the price or options on either boat. You're not a
prospective purchaser. I don't recall asking you about the financial
transactions or complete equipment lists relating to your boat.



You did not have to. A full web page with pictures and description was
listed on the net. In fact, you used that source to find out my full name
and phone number. Remember?

Regardless Harry, here is a detailed listing of what was on our 32 footer
when we sold it:





SPECS
· Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives

· LOA 34'9"

· Beam 11'0"

· Dry weight 10,800 lbs

· Deadrise 17 degrees

· Fuel Capacity 186 US gallons


Is that right? 186 gallons? That seems awfully small for a boat that
size with twin gas engines.

Dan
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"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
ink.net...
JimH wrote:

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JimH wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:

"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32
footers, one a "name brand," and the other built over on the
Eastern Shore. After many years, I've decided that is the optimum
size for what I want to do on the water, especially since I'm
usually the only person aboard with boat-handling skills, and
larger boats typically require at least one additional crew member
willing to learn line-handling. Most of my fishing buddies feel at
the top of their form if they can get into the boat without falling
off the dock.

We know what you are looking to get for the Parker.

How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with?

crickets

Yep.

http://tinyurl.com/4ukg4

Are you under the delusion I read all of your posts here? Is Dumbo Dan?

The answers: Under $500,000 and everything.





You provided exact details on what was on your 25 footer yet details of
what is on the more luxurious 36 footer is a big secret.

Go figure.

Happy New Year Harry.

No, I didn't provide "exact details." I provided general details. Exact
details would have been sigificantly more "exact."

Our Parker is a factory production boat. Its particulars are available
on-line at the manufacturer's site. We have some options and I've added a
few. That's all there is to that song.

Why would you care about the price or options on either boat. You're not
a prospective purchaser. I don't recall asking you about the financial
transactions or complete equipment lists relating to your boat.



You did not have to. A full web page with pictures and description was
listed on the net. In fact, you used that source to find out my full
name and phone number. Remember?

Regardless Harry, here is a detailed listing of what was on our 32 footer
when we sold it:





SPECS
· Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives

· LOA 34'9"

· Beam 11'0"

· Dry weight 10,800 lbs

· Deadrise 17 degrees

· Fuel Capacity 186 US gallons


Is that right? 186 gallons? That seems awfully small for a boat that
size with twin gas engines.

Dan



Yep. It is not a bluewater boat but well suited for the Great Lakes.


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JimH wrote:


SPECS
· Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives

· LOA 34'9"

· Beam 11'0"

· Dry weight 10,800 lbs




Amazing...a 34-foot, twin engine boat whose dry weight is only 4000 pounds
more than my 25-footer. High tech materials?




You actually stepped in it again Harry. The weight/foot of my 32 foot boat
is still far greater than your 25 footer......65 1/2 pounds/foot to be
exact.

Tee-hee. ;-)



Nice theory, but the beam is 18" wider.

Dan
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SPECS
· Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives

· LOA 34'9"

· Beam 11'0"

· Dry weight 10,800 lbs



Amazing...a 34-foot, twin engine boat whose dry weight is only 4000
pounds more than my 25-footer. High tech materials?




You actually stepped in it again Harry. The weight/foot of my 32 foot
boat is still far greater than your 25 footer......65 1/2 pounds/foot to
be exact.

Tee-hee. ;-)



Nice theory, but the beam is 18" wider.

Dan



OK. Taking total square foot (assuming a full beam along the entire length
of the boat) mine is still about 20% heavier/ft2.


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JimH wrote:
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SPECS
· Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives

· LOA 34'9"

· Beam 11'0"

· Dry weight 10,800 lbs


Amazing...a 34-foot, twin engine boat whose dry weight is only 4000
pounds more than my 25-footer. High tech materials?


You actually stepped in it again Harry. The weight/foot of my 32 foot
boat is still far greater than your 25 footer......65 1/2 pounds/foot
to be exact.

Tee-hee. ;-)


Nice theory, but the beam is 18" wider.

Dan



OK. Taking total square foot (assuming a full beam along the entire
length of the boat) mine is still about 20% heavier/ft2.


An absolutely idiotic, simple-minded comparison for any number of reasons,
not the least of which is the fact that that old bubble boat of
yours had about 2600 pounds tied up in engines.


Nice try. Take off 1300 pounds and the boat is still heavier/ft2 than your
Parker.


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