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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:49:44 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" wrote: JohnH, Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500 http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, " wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I convince myself that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine. But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it serious thought. There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an "equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer? I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to give a number without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a big decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200). -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes That *is* nice, and reasonably priced. 400+ engine hours. Is that a lot for that Yamaha four stroke? How many are on yours? A lot less. Would you consider 400 hours a lot for that Yamaha 4-stroke? A lot in terms of what, typical lifespan in hours? Depends. If they were careful "Harry" hours, no. If they were 400 hours on the firewall, well, yes, that would be a lot. I'm not your typical outboarder, though. I watch the tach and the fuel flow meter, not the speedometer. So how many hours are on the engine? Less than 400. Why do you want to know? You're not a potential purchaser. It's not your business. A legitimate buyer will be allowed to see the service records. What's the big secret Harry? Why are you ashamed of telling us how many hours you put on the engine? It's no secret. It's simply none of your business. Yep, you are indeed ashamed of letting everyone know how infrequent you used the boat. No offense, but one of the charming aspects of this newsgroup is the number of simpies who believe they have some sort of "power" over other posters. You're free to draw whatever erroneous conclusions make you happy, Jim. I'm *still* not going to tell you. So how about some details on your 36 footer you are selling? Perhaps someone here may be interested. Yes, I'm sure there are those who are interested in "some details." Not to worry, there is no shortage of potential buyers in the Bay area. What few examples of Lincoln hull designs there are around here are snapped up quickly on the resale market. In fact, there are a couple of guys in the Solomons marina scene here who expressed interest last season. Makes perfect sense to list some details about your 25 foot boat here but not your 36 foot boat when you claim both are for sale. Eh Harry? I've listed "some details" of both boats here from time to time. Sorry, but with your price of admission, that's all you get. Now, you should move on, because you are going to get nowhere on your present course of action. You're not in charge. How much did you have to pay for winterization of your 36 footer and where is it stored? |
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Harry,
I have to agree with you on this one. I think you should be able to provide as much or as little information as you feel comfortable doing. If you do not feel comfortable discussing how often you use your boat or the number of hours on your boat, you should not do it. I have trouble understanding why this information should be secret, but that is your prerogative. I just know I would never buy a boat from anyone who was not upfront with the number of hours on the engine. I for one, follow the advice of Internet Security Experts who recommend no one provide any personal information in public newsgroups, and for that reason I do keep my personal information (i.e. Name, telephone number, social security number etc) off of rec.boats. I would actually recommend anyone who uses their real name in change it to a handle. It would be too easy for someone to use the internet to harass someone or cause them financial or personal harm. Since you don't want to discuss the number of hours on your boat engine (which I would not consider personal info), I am sure you can understand why some people prefer not to publish personal information in a public NG. "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:49:44 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" wrote: JohnH, Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500 http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, " wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I convince myself that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine. But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it serious thought. There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an "equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer? I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to give a number without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a big decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200). -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes That *is* nice, and reasonably priced. 400+ engine hours. Is that a lot for that Yamaha four stroke? How many are on yours? A lot less. Would you consider 400 hours a lot for that Yamaha 4-stroke? A lot in terms of what, typical lifespan in hours? Depends. If they were careful "Harry" hours, no. If they were 400 hours on the firewall, well, yes, that would be a lot. I'm not your typical outboarder, though. I watch the tach and the fuel flow meter, not the speedometer. So how many hours are on the engine? Less than 400. Why do you want to know? You're not a potential purchaser. It's not your business. A legitimate buyer will be allowed to see the service records. What's the big secret Harry? Why are you ashamed of telling us how many hours you put on the engine? It's no secret. It's simply none of your business. Yep, you are indeed ashamed of letting everyone know how infrequent you used the boat. No offense, but one of the charming aspects of this newsgroup is the number of simpies who believe they have some sort of "power" over other posters. You're free to draw whatever erroneous conclusions make you happy, Jim. I'm *still* not going to tell you. So how about some details on your 36 footer you are selling? Perhaps someone here may be interested. Yes, I'm sure there are those who are interested in "some details." Not to worry, there is no shortage of potential buyers in the Bay area. What few examples of Lincoln hull designs there are around here are snapped up quickly on the resale market. In fact, there are a couple of guys in the Solomons marina scene here who expressed interest last season. Makes perfect sense to list some details about your 25 foot boat here but not your 36 foot boat when you claim both are for sale. Eh Harry? I've listed "some details" of both boats here from time to time. Sorry, but with your price of admission, that's all you get. Now, you should move on, because you are going to get nowhere on your present course of action. You're not in charge. |
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Harry Krause wrote:
I've listed "some details" of both boats here from time to time. Sorry, but with your price of admission, that's all you get. Now, you should move on, because you are going to get nowhere on your present course of action. You're not in charge. JimH seems awfully interested in your boats. Maybe he's thinking of making an offer one one or the other. What other reason would he have for his incessant questioning? |
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"-rick-" wrote in message ... Bill McKee wrote: Oregon built Jetcraft. Is a 1991 hull, with a 2005 motor. and a 2002 paint job. Just out of curiosity is that a Kodiak pump? How many hours on the pump? Any rebuilds or impeller service needed? thanks -rick- Yes, Kodiak. Original stainless impellers. I have touched up the edges a couple of times, and have replaced the cutlass bearings and seals a couple of times. I have about 1600 hours on the boat. Kodiak 3 stage. I did have the pump gone through when I swapped motors this year (actually last year) and he shimed the impellers, as he said that a lot of the Kodiaks had the wrong spacing to the stators. Phil Taylor of Jetstream Concepts in Yuba City, CA did the work. I have changed the thrust bearing twice. |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Dan Krueger wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, " wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I convince myself that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine. But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it serious thought. There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an "equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer? http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/3/8/82080038.htm $55K with twin 200's http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/7/3/81868773.htm D'oh. Older boats and not the same model. Hardly "equivalent." Understood. I never said equivalent - these are alternatives for the guy shopping for a Parker. |
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JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan Krueger" wrote in message arthlink.net... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32 footers, one a "name brand," and the other built over on the Eastern Shore. After many years, I've decided that is the optimum size for what I want to do on the water, especially since I'm usually the only person aboard with boat-handling skills, and larger boats typically require at least one additional crew member willing to learn line-handling. Most of my fishing buddies feel at the top of their form if they can get into the boat without falling off the dock. We know what you are looking to get for the Parker. How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with? crickets Yep. http://tinyurl.com/4ukg4 Are you under the delusion I read all of your posts here? Is Dumbo Dan? The answers: Under $500,000 and everything. You provided exact details on what was on your 25 footer yet details of what is on the more luxurious 36 footer is a big secret. Go figure. Happy New Year Harry. No, I didn't provide "exact details." I provided general details. Exact details would have been sigificantly more "exact." Our Parker is a factory production boat. Its particulars are available on-line at the manufacturer's site. We have some options and I've added a few. That's all there is to that song. Why would you care about the price or options on either boat. You're not a prospective purchaser. I don't recall asking you about the financial transactions or complete equipment lists relating to your boat. You did not have to. A full web page with pictures and description was listed on the net. In fact, you used that source to find out my full name and phone number. Remember? Regardless Harry, here is a detailed listing of what was on our 32 footer when we sold it: SPECS · Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives · LOA 34'9" · Beam 11'0" · Dry weight 10,800 lbs · Deadrise 17 degrees · Fuel Capacity 186 US gallons Is that right? 186 gallons? That seems awfully small for a boat that size with twin gas engines. Dan |
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"Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan Krueger" wrote in message . earthlink.net... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32 footers, one a "name brand," and the other built over on the Eastern Shore. After many years, I've decided that is the optimum size for what I want to do on the water, especially since I'm usually the only person aboard with boat-handling skills, and larger boats typically require at least one additional crew member willing to learn line-handling. Most of my fishing buddies feel at the top of their form if they can get into the boat without falling off the dock. We know what you are looking to get for the Parker. How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with? crickets Yep. http://tinyurl.com/4ukg4 Are you under the delusion I read all of your posts here? Is Dumbo Dan? The answers: Under $500,000 and everything. You provided exact details on what was on your 25 footer yet details of what is on the more luxurious 36 footer is a big secret. Go figure. Happy New Year Harry. No, I didn't provide "exact details." I provided general details. Exact details would have been sigificantly more "exact." Our Parker is a factory production boat. Its particulars are available on-line at the manufacturer's site. We have some options and I've added a few. That's all there is to that song. Why would you care about the price or options on either boat. You're not a prospective purchaser. I don't recall asking you about the financial transactions or complete equipment lists relating to your boat. You did not have to. A full web page with pictures and description was listed on the net. In fact, you used that source to find out my full name and phone number. Remember? Regardless Harry, here is a detailed listing of what was on our 32 footer when we sold it: SPECS · Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives · LOA 34'9" · Beam 11'0" · Dry weight 10,800 lbs · Deadrise 17 degrees · Fuel Capacity 186 US gallons Is that right? 186 gallons? That seems awfully small for a boat that size with twin gas engines. Dan Yep. It is not a bluewater boat but well suited for the Great Lakes. |
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JimH wrote:
SPECS · Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives · LOA 34'9" · Beam 11'0" · Dry weight 10,800 lbs Amazing...a 34-foot, twin engine boat whose dry weight is only 4000 pounds more than my 25-footer. High tech materials? You actually stepped in it again Harry. The weight/foot of my 32 foot boat is still far greater than your 25 footer......65 1/2 pounds/foot to be exact. Tee-hee. ;-) Nice theory, but the beam is 18" wider. Dan |
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"Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... JimH wrote: SPECS · Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives · LOA 34'9" · Beam 11'0" · Dry weight 10,800 lbs Amazing...a 34-foot, twin engine boat whose dry weight is only 4000 pounds more than my 25-footer. High tech materials? You actually stepped in it again Harry. The weight/foot of my 32 foot boat is still far greater than your 25 footer......65 1/2 pounds/foot to be exact. Tee-hee. ;-) Nice theory, but the beam is 18" wider. Dan OK. Taking total square foot (assuming a full beam along the entire length of the boat) mine is still about 20% heavier/ft2. |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... JimH wrote: SPECS · Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives · LOA 34'9" · Beam 11'0" · Dry weight 10,800 lbs Amazing...a 34-foot, twin engine boat whose dry weight is only 4000 pounds more than my 25-footer. High tech materials? You actually stepped in it again Harry. The weight/foot of my 32 foot boat is still far greater than your 25 footer......65 1/2 pounds/foot to be exact. Tee-hee. ;-) Nice theory, but the beam is 18" wider. Dan OK. Taking total square foot (assuming a full beam along the entire length of the boat) mine is still about 20% heavier/ft2. An absolutely idiotic, simple-minded comparison for any number of reasons, not the least of which is the fact that that old bubble boat of yours had about 2600 pounds tied up in engines. Nice try. Take off 1300 pounds and the boat is still heavier/ft2 than your Parker. |
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