A boat's use is inversely proportional to her length".

That may be true for some but not all. Usage depends more on the owner
than anything else: How much do they and their family enjoy boating;
How well suited to their favorite use is the boat; How convenient is
it to take it out; How much free time do they have, etc?

I know people who buy a boat and then find out they don't both enjoy
it, or the boat they bought is not right for its intended us. Both of
those factors are more important than size.

It is also true that no one boat is right for all purposes. We use the
GB49 for cruising, both weekend and long range. If I just want to go
for a quick spin however, I'll take out the 24. Both boats are equally
convenient to take out, but one is built for size and comfort, the
other for speed and shallow draft. It is easier to single hand the 24
and that's also a consideration, but not the primary factor.

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SPECS
· Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives

· LOA 34'9"

· Beam 11'0"

· Dry weight 10,800 lbs

Amazing...a 34-foot, twin engine boat whose dry weight is only 4000
pounds more than my 25-footer. High tech materials?

You actually stepped in it again Harry. The weight/foot of my 32
foot boat is still far greater than your 25 footer......65 1/2
pounds/foot to be exact.

Tee-hee. ;-)


Nice theory, but the beam is 18" wider.

Dan

OK. Taking total square foot (assuming a full beam along the entire
length of the boat) mine is still about 20% heavier/ft2.
An absolutely idiotic, simple-minded comparison for any number of
reasons, not the least of which is the fact that that old bubble boat of
yours had about 2600 pounds tied up in engines.

Nice try. Take off 1300 pounds and the boat is still heavier/ft2 than
your Parker.

I said the weight comparison was idiotic for any number of reasons, engine
weight being just one. Oh...and my single outboard only weighs about 500
pounds, so keep deducting. And also deduct all those "cruising bubble boat
amenities" on that old bubble boat, too. I suspect the hull weights of the
two boats are practically the same. You really don't know much about
boats.

"OK. Taking total square foot (assuming a full beam along the entire
length of the boat) mine is still about 20% heavier/ft2." Idiocy
in the kind of comparison you are trying to make with boats of two
completely different footprints, or on any other basis, too.

Try picking your posting positions a bit more carefully.


Hey....*you* brought it up................*I* proved you wrong.

Where did you get the 1,300 pounds for the motor weight? I doubt a 5.7L 250
HP motor and outdrive weighs that much. But even using that
figure.............you lose. So solly Challie.

You stepped in it again Harry

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If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32
footers, one a "name brand," and the other built over on the
Eastern Shore. After many years, I've decided that is the
optimum size for what I want to do on the water, especially
since I'm usually the only person aboard with boat-handling
skills, and larger boats typically require at least one
additional crew member willing to learn line-handling. Most of
my fishing buddies feel at the top of their form if they can get
into the boat without falling off the dock.
We know what you are looking to get for the Parker.

How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with?
crickets
Yep.

http://tinyurl.com/4ukg4
Are you under the delusion I read all of your posts here? Is Dumbo
Dan?

The answers: Under $500,000 and everything.




You provided exact details on what was on your 25 footer yet details
of what is on the more luxurious 36 footer is a big secret.

Go figure.

Happy New Year Harry.
No, I didn't provide "exact details." I provided general details.
Exact details would have been sigificantly more "exact."

Our Parker is a factory production boat. Its particulars are available
on-line at the manufacturer's site. We have some options and I've
added a few. That's all there is to that song.

Why would you care about the price or options on either boat. You're
not a prospective purchaser. I don't recall asking you about the
financial transactions or complete equipment lists relating to your
boat.

You did not have to. A full web page with pictures and description was
listed on the net. In fact, you used that source to find out my full
name and phone number. Remember?

Regardless Harry, here is a detailed listing of what was on our 32
footer when we sold it:





SPECS
· Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives

· LOA 34'9"

· Beam 11'0"

· Dry weight 10,800 lbs

· Deadrise 17 degrees

· Fuel Capacity 186 US gallons
Is that right? 186 gallons? That seems awfully small for a boat that
size with twin gas engines.

Dan


Yep. It is not a bluewater boat but well suited for the Great Lakes.

About the same fuel capacity as a 25' Parker.

Great. How much on your 36 footer, or is that some sort of secret also?

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If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32
footers, one a "name brand," and the other built over on the
Eastern Shore. After many years, I've decided that is the
optimum size for what I want to do on the water, especially
since I'm usually the only person aboard with boat-handling
skills, and larger boats typically require at least one
additional crew member willing to learn line-handling. Most of
my fishing buddies feel at the top of their form if they can
get into the boat without falling off the dock.
We know what you are looking to get for the Parker.

How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with?
crickets
Yep.

http://tinyurl.com/4ukg4
Are you under the delusion I read all of your posts here? Is Dumbo
Dan?

The answers: Under $500,000 and everything.




You provided exact details on what was on your 25 footer yet
details of what is on the more luxurious 36 footer is a big secret.

Go figure.

Happy New Year Harry.
No, I didn't provide "exact details." I provided general details.
Exact details would have been sigificantly more "exact."

Our Parker is a factory production boat. Its particulars are
available on-line at the manufacturer's site. We have some options
and I've added a few. That's all there is to that song.

Why would you care about the price or options on either boat. You're
not a prospective purchaser. I don't recall asking you about the
financial transactions or complete equipment lists relating to your
boat.
You did not have to. A full web page with pictures and description
was listed on the net. In fact, you used that source to find out my
full name and phone number. Remember?

Regardless Harry, here is a detailed listing of what was on our 32
footer when we sold it:





SPECS
· Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives

· LOA 34'9"

· Beam 11'0"

· Dry weight 10,800 lbs

· Deadrise 17 degrees

· Fuel Capacity 186 US gallons
Is that right? 186 gallons? That seems awfully small for a boat that
size with twin gas engines.

Dan

Yep. It is not a bluewater boat but well suited for the Great Lakes.
About the same fuel capacity as a 25' Parker.

Great. How much on your 36 footer, or is that some sort of secret also?

More than twice as much.

Great. We believe you Harry..........really we do.

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SPECS
· Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives

· LOA 34'9"

· Beam 11'0"

· Dry weight 10,800 lbs
Amazing...a 34-foot, twin engine boat whose dry weight is only
4000 pounds more than my 25-footer. High tech materials?
You actually stepped in it again Harry. The weight/foot of my 32
foot boat is still far greater than your 25 footer......65 1/2
pounds/foot to be exact.

Tee-hee. ;-)


Nice theory, but the beam is 18" wider.

Dan
OK. Taking total square foot (assuming a full beam along the entire
length of the boat) mine is still about 20% heavier/ft2.
An absolutely idiotic, simple-minded comparison for any number of
reasons, not the least of which is the fact that that old bubble boat
of
yours had about 2600 pounds tied up in engines.
Nice try. Take off 1300 pounds and the boat is still heavier/ft2 than
your Parker.
I said the weight comparison was idiotic for any number of reasons,
engine weight being just one. Oh...and my single outboard only weighs
about 500 pounds, so keep deducting. And also deduct all those "cruising
bubble boat amenities" on that old bubble boat, too. I suspect the hull
weights of the two boats are practically the same. You really don't know
much about boats.

"OK. Taking total square foot (assuming a full beam along the entire
length of the boat) mine is still about 20% heavier/ft2." Idiocy
in the kind of comparison you are trying to make with boats of two
completely different footprints, or on any other basis, too.

Try picking your posting positions a bit more carefully.


Hey....*you* brought it up................*I* proved you wrong.


No, Jim, all you proved was that a 32' bubble boat weighs more than a 25'
fishing boat. D'oh. But you managed to convince yourself again. What a
surprise.

You brought it up Harry. All I did was prove you wrong.

BTW: You conveniently cut this out from your reply so I will ask again.

Where did you get the 1,300 pounds for the motor weight? I doubt a 5.7L 250
HP motor and outdrive weighs that much.

But even using that figure.............you lose. So solly Challie.

You stepped in it again Harry

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SPECS
· Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives

· LOA 34'9"

· Beam 11'0"

· Dry weight 10,800 lbs
Amazing...a 34-foot, twin engine boat whose dry weight is only
4000 pounds more than my 25-footer. High tech materials?
You actually stepped in it again Harry. The weight/foot of my 32
foot boat is still far greater than your 25 footer......65 1/2
pounds/foot to be exact.

Tee-hee. ;-)


Nice theory, but the beam is 18" wider.

Dan
OK. Taking total square foot (assuming a full beam along the
entire length of the boat) mine is still about 20% heavier/ft2.
An absolutely idiotic, simple-minded comparison for any number of
reasons, not the least of which is the fact that that old bubble
boat of
yours had about 2600 pounds tied up in engines.
Nice try. Take off 1300 pounds and the boat is still heavier/ft2
than your Parker.
I said the weight comparison was idiotic for any number of reasons,
engine weight being just one. Oh...and my single outboard only weighs
about 500 pounds, so keep deducting. And also deduct all those
"cruising bubble boat amenities" on that old bubble boat, too. I
suspect the hull weights of the two boats are practically the same.
You really don't know much about boats.

"OK. Taking total square foot (assuming a full beam along the entire
length of the boat) mine is still about 20% heavier/ft2." Idiocy
in the kind of comparison you are trying to make with boats of two
completely different footprints, or on any other basis, too.

Try picking your posting positions a bit more carefully.

Hey....*you* brought it up................*I* proved you wrong.

No, Jim, all you proved was that a 32' bubble boat weighs more than a
25' fishing boat. D'oh. But you managed to convince yourself again. What
a surprise.

You brought it up Harry. All I did was prove you wrong.

BTW: You conveniently cut this out from your reply so I will ask again.

Where did you get the 1,300 pounds for the motor weight? I doubt a 5.7L
250 HP motor and outdrive weighs that much.

But even using that figure.............you lose. So solly Challie.

You stepped in it again Harry




Jim, Jim, Jim. Go learn a little about boat design and post back when you
actually know something useful. Anything. So what's a little outdrive like
you had weigh? 1000 pounds? Does that include all its wiring? Does that
include the prop? Somewhere between 1000 and 1100 pounds? Twice as much as
my outboard.


Prove it.

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If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32
footers, one a "name brand," and the other built over on the
Eastern Shore. After many years, I've decided that is the
optimum size for what I want to do on the water, especially
since I'm usually the only person aboard with boat-handling
skills, and larger boats typically require at least one
additional crew member willing to learn line-handling. Most
of my fishing buddies feel at the top of their form if they
can get into the boat without falling off the dock.
We know what you are looking to get for the Parker.

How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with?
crickets
Yep.

http://tinyurl.com/4ukg4
Are you under the delusion I read all of your posts here? Is
Dumbo Dan?

The answers: Under $500,000 and everything.




You provided exact details on what was on your 25 footer yet
details of what is on the more luxurious 36 footer is a big
secret.

Go figure.

Happy New Year Harry.
No, I didn't provide "exact details." I provided general details.
Exact details would have been sigificantly more "exact."

Our Parker is a factory production boat. Its particulars are
available on-line at the manufacturer's site. We have some options
and I've added a few. That's all there is to that song.

Why would you care about the price or options on either boat.
You're not a prospective purchaser. I don't recall asking you
about the financial transactions or complete equipment lists
relating to your boat.
You did not have to. A full web page with pictures and description
was listed on the net. In fact, you used that source to find out
my full name and phone number. Remember?

Regardless Harry, here is a detailed listing of what was on our 32
footer when we sold it:





SPECS
· Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives

· LOA 34'9"

· Beam 11'0"

· Dry weight 10,800 lbs

· Deadrise 17 degrees

· Fuel Capacity 186 US gallons
Is that right? 186 gallons? That seems awfully small for a boat
that size with twin gas engines.

Dan
Yep. It is not a bluewater boat but well suited for the Great Lakes.
About the same fuel capacity as a 25' Parker.
Great. How much on your 36 footer, or is that some sort of secret
also?
More than twice as much.

Great. We believe you Harry..........really we do.

What *you* believe or don't believe is totally without significance to me,
Jim. Despite the forced politeness here, I'm sure you know exactly how I
feel about you and the rest of the r.w. d.b.'s .


No. I don't know how you feel about me Harry. You had posted just last
week that you thought I was OK. I guess the fact that I proved you wrong on
a claim of yours in this thread puts me back into your "Not OK" category.
Very interesting.

So please let me know exactly what you think of me Harry.

I think of you as an interesting character, someone I would like to sit over
a couple of brews with. Unlike you I could care less about your political
leanings and my feeling about you has nothing to do with that.

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SPECS
· Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives

· LOA 34'9"

· Beam 11'0"

· Dry weight 10,800 lbs
Amazing...a 34-foot, twin engine boat whose dry weight is only
4000 pounds more than my 25-footer. High tech materials?
You actually stepped in it again Harry. The weight/foot of my
32 foot boat is still far greater than your 25 footer......65
1/2 pounds/foot to be exact.

Tee-hee. ;-)


Nice theory, but the beam is 18" wider.

Dan
OK. Taking total square foot (assuming a full beam along the
entire length of the boat) mine is still about 20% heavier/ft2.
An absolutely idiotic, simple-minded comparison for any number of
reasons, not the least of which is the fact that that old bubble
boat of
yours had about 2600 pounds tied up in engines.
Nice try. Take off 1300 pounds and the boat is still heavier/ft2
than your Parker.
I said the weight comparison was idiotic for any number of reasons,
engine weight being just one. Oh...and my single outboard only
weighs about 500 pounds, so keep deducting. And also deduct all
those "cruising bubble boat amenities" on that old bubble boat, too.
I suspect the hull weights of the two boats are practically the
same. You really don't know much about boats.

"OK. Taking total square foot (assuming a full beam along the
entire
length of the boat) mine is still about 20% heavier/ft2." Idiocy
in the kind of comparison you are trying to make with boats of two
completely different footprints, or on any other basis, too.

Try picking your posting positions a bit more carefully.

Hey....*you* brought it up................*I* proved you wrong.
No, Jim, all you proved was that a 32' bubble boat weighs more than a
25' fishing boat. D'oh. But you managed to convince yourself again.
What a surprise.
You brought it up Harry. All I did was prove you wrong.

BTW: You conveniently cut this out from your reply so I will ask
again.

Where did you get the 1,300 pounds for the motor weight? I doubt a
5.7L 250 HP motor and outdrive weighs that much.

But even using that figure.............you lose. So solly Challie.

You stepped in it again Harry



Jim, Jim, Jim. Go learn a little about boat design and post back when
you actually know something useful. Anything. So what's a little
outdrive like you had weigh? 1000 pounds? Does that include all its
wiring? Does that include the prop? Somewhere between 1000 and 1100
pounds? Twice as much as my outboard.


Prove it.


Prove what, Jim,



Tee-hee.

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If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of
30-32 footers, one a "name brand," and the other built
over on the Eastern Shore. After many years, I've decided
that is the optimum size for what I want to do on the
water, especially since I'm usually the only person aboard
with boat-handling skills, and larger boats typically
require at least one additional crew member willing to
learn line-handling. Most of my fishing buddies feel at
the top of their form if they can get into the boat
without falling off the dock.
We know what you are looking to get for the Parker.

How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with?
crickets
Yep.

http://tinyurl.com/4ukg4
Are you under the delusion I read all of your posts here? Is
Dumbo Dan?

The answers: Under $500,000 and everything.




You provided exact details on what was on your 25 footer yet
details of what is on the more luxurious 36 footer is a big
secret.

Go figure.

Happy New Year Harry.
No, I didn't provide "exact details." I provided general
details. Exact details would have been sigificantly more
"exact."

Our Parker is a factory production boat. Its particulars are
available on-line at the manufacturer's site. We have some
options and I've added a few. That's all there is to that song.

Why would you care about the price or options on either boat.
You're not a prospective purchaser. I don't recall asking you
about the financial transactions or complete equipment lists
relating to your boat.
You did not have to. A full web page with pictures and
description was listed on the net. In fact, you used that source
to find out my full name and phone number. Remember?

Regardless Harry, here is a detailed listing of what was on our
32 footer when we sold it:





SPECS
· Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives

· LOA 34'9"

· Beam 11'0"

· Dry weight 10,800 lbs

· Deadrise 17 degrees

· Fuel Capacity 186 US gallons
Is that right? 186 gallons? That seems awfully small for a boat
that size with twin gas engines.

Dan
Yep. It is not a bluewater boat but well suited for the Great
Lakes.
About the same fuel capacity as a 25' Parker.
Great. How much on your 36 footer, or is that some sort of secret
also?
More than twice as much.
Great. We believe you Harry..........really we do.
What *you* believe or don't believe is totally without significance to
me, Jim. Despite the forced politeness here, I'm sure you know exactly
how I feel about you and the rest of the r.w. d.b.'s .


No. I don't know how you feel about me Harry. You had posted just last
week that you thought I was OK. I guess the fact that I proved you wrong
on a claim of yours in this thread puts me back into your "Not OK"
category. Very interesting.


You haven't proved anything, except to yourself.

Tee-hee.

On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 12:58:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:49:44 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers"
wrote:

JohnH,
Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500

http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm


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JohnH wrote:
On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, "

wrote:

We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one
if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A
larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My
28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but
small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older
I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months
is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt
docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years,
"A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here
have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat?
I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I
convince myself
that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine.

But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it
serious
thought.

There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a
lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an
"equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer?
I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to
give a number
without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a
big
decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200).



--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes
That *is* nice, and reasonably priced.

400+ engine hours.
Is that a lot for that Yamaha four stroke? How many are on yours?

A lot less.

Would you consider 400 hours a lot for that Yamaha 4-stroke?



A lot in terms of what, typical lifespan in hours? Depends. If they were
careful "Harry" hours, no. If they were 400 hours on the firewall, well,
yes, that would be a lot.

I'm not your typical outboarder, though. I watch the tach and the fuel
flow meter, not the speedometer.

i would expect most Parker owners would not be firewall type operators.

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes