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Position a VHF Radio, a FishFinder, and a GPS in a 18-Ft Center Console?
wrote in message oups.com... Butch Davis wrote: Jay, Lacking a T-Top on my 16 footer I've decided to mount the VHF on the right side of the console in the dash with the 8 foot antenna mounted on the top right side of the console windshield guard rail. I'll remove the compass from the left side of the console top and mount the GPS/fishfinder there. The new GPS has an internal antenna. IMO, these dual purpose electronics make a lot of sense for a very small boat. I'll run the connector between the GPS and the VHS under the dash and up through the cable way from the inner console to the GPS/fishfinder. That'll leave the top right side of the console available for all the stuff I want to have right at hand while fishing. For the very few times I have need of a compass I'll carry a hand held. If interested in a high quality reasonablely priced high definition color GPS/fishfinder check out the Lowrance LMS-334C for inshore fishing or the LMS-339C for offshore fishing. About $600 - 650 w/xducer through Boatfix.com or TigerGPS.com. They are too new to see on the Lowrance web site but are virtually identical to the LMS-332 or LMS-337 but with an internal antenna which are on Lowrance's site. Butch wrote in message oups.com... JohnH wrote: On 13 Jan 2006 20:15:36 -0800, " wrote: JohnH wrote: On 13 Jan 2006 10:10:18 -0800, " wrote: Harry Krause wrote: wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On 12 Jan 2006 19:14:19 -0800, " wrote: I can keep the radio antenna at least 3 feet away from the GPS antenna by keep them in either side of the T-top. That works. But I don't see how I can avoid mounting the radio antenna near an metallic object. The frame of the T-top is definitely made from metal. If I mount the radio antenna on the T-top, I will be mounting the antenna right on an metallic object. Not a problem since the metal is under the antenna. What you need to avoid is metal at the same height or above the antenna. In reality these rules are broken all the time with only minimal impact on performance. They are good guidelines however. Thanks for the clarification. This means I should have no problem attaching a radio antenna on the frame of the T-top as long as I point the antenna away from the metal frame of the T-top. Good to know this. Jay Chan Jay, you really are obsessing a bit too much about all of this. Relax. Sorry if I seem to act like a bit obsessive. I have a list of boat improvement tasks waiting for me to do as soon as the weather becomes warm. When the weather is warm, I want to spend all my time to get the boat in a good shape, then I can launch the boat and start enjoying boating and fishing -- the sooner, the better. Therefore, I need to gather as much info as possible ahead of time to avoid any delay. And now is the best time to get all the questions answered. What is your opinion about positioning fishfinder/GPS near a compass or a VHF radio? Jay Chan FWIW, Jay, my compass is within a foot of my radio, GPS, and fishfinder. Haven't had a problem with any of them. If you look at the post 'trolling.jpg' in a.b.p.s.o., you'll see my compass. All the rest is mounted in the helm right below the top. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." Seem like the conclusion is "Keep the radio at least 3-ft away from the compass; but there is always exception." For me, I will likely mount the radio right under the T-top. This is not only for keeping away from the compass, but also for leaving room on the dash for a fishfinder and a GPS device (both cannot be surface-mounted and must be placed on top of the dash near the compass that is also on the dash). Jay Chan If I had a T-top that would support a radio, that's where the radio would go! -- John H "Have a **spectacular** day!! Glad to hear that you also like my plan of mounting the VHF radio underneat the T-top. This helps me to confirm the final location of the VHF radio. Jay Chan I assume you point the 8-ft antenna straight up instead of pointing it rearward at a 45 degree angle. I assume you want to get rid of the compass not because the radio antenna is causing problem to the compass and render the compass useless. You will remove it just to make room for the GPS/fishfinder and other fishing stuffs. Will the radio antenna cause problem to the internal antenna in the GPS? They need to be separated by at least 3-ft, right? Yes, I know the dual purpose GPS/fishfinder can save valuable space in a small boat like yours and mine. But I purchased the GPS and the fishfinder separately during the years. If I could do this again, I would purchase a combo unit. I assume you run cable between the GPS and the VHF radio in order to take advantage of the DSC feature. You are right to point out the need of leaving space on the dash for fishing related stuffs. I didn't think of that. With a compass, a GPS, and a fishfinder on my 2-sq-ft dashboard, I am wondering where to put anything else on the dashboard. Seem like I am going to have a problem putting a map any where on the dashboard. I may be better off mounting the GPS on the vertical frame of the T-top (the GPS doesn't need to be wired to a 12-volt battery and it may not need a GPS antenna; therefore, I can mount it anywhere). Thanks for pointing this out. Jay Chan Jay, no offense but you are going to worry yourself to death on this project. It really is not rocket science. ;-) |
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Position a VHF Radio, a FishFinder, and a GPS in a 18-Ft Center Console?
JimH wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... Butch Davis wrote: Jay, Lacking a T-Top on my 16 footer I've decided to mount the VHF on the right side of the console in the dash with the 8 foot antenna mounted on the top right side of the console windshield guard rail. I'll remove the compass from the left side of the console top and mount the GPS/fishfinder there. The new GPS has an internal antenna. IMO, these dual purpose electronics make a lot of sense for a very small boat. I'll run the connector between the GPS and the VHS under the dash and up through the cable way from the inner console to the GPS/fishfinder. That'll leave the top right side of the console available for all the stuff I want to have right at hand while fishing. For the very few times I have need of a compass I'll carry a hand held. If interested in a high quality reasonablely priced high definition color GPS/fishfinder check out the Lowrance LMS-334C for inshore fishing or the LMS-339C for offshore fishing. About $600 - 650 w/xducer through Boatfix.com or TigerGPS.com. They are too new to see on the Lowrance web site but are virtually identical to the LMS-332 or LMS-337 but with an internal antenna which are on Lowrance's site. Butch wrote in message oups.com... JohnH wrote: On 13 Jan 2006 20:15:36 -0800, " wrote: JohnH wrote: On 13 Jan 2006 10:10:18 -0800, " wrote: Harry Krause wrote: wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On 12 Jan 2006 19:14:19 -0800, " wrote: I can keep the radio antenna at least 3 feet away from the GPS antenna by keep them in either side of the T-top. That works. But I don't see how I can avoid mounting the radio antenna near an metallic object. The frame of the T-top is definitely made from metal. If I mount the radio antenna on the T-top, I will be mounting the antenna right on an metallic object. Not a problem since the metal is under the antenna. What you need to avoid is metal at the same height or above the antenna. In reality these rules are broken all the time with only minimal impact on performance. They are good guidelines however. Thanks for the clarification. This means I should have no problem attaching a radio antenna on the frame of the T-top as long as I point the antenna away from the metal frame of the T-top. Good to know this. Jay Chan Jay, you really are obsessing a bit too much about all of this. Relax. Sorry if I seem to act like a bit obsessive. I have a list of boat improvement tasks waiting for me to do as soon as the weather becomes warm. When the weather is warm, I want to spend all my time to get the boat in a good shape, then I can launch the boat and start enjoying boating and fishing -- the sooner, the better. Therefore, I need to gather as much info as possible ahead of time to avoid any delay. And now is the best time to get all the questions answered. What is your opinion about positioning fishfinder/GPS near a compass or a VHF radio? Jay Chan FWIW, Jay, my compass is within a foot of my radio, GPS, and fishfinder. Haven't had a problem with any of them. If you look at the post 'trolling.jpg' in a.b.p.s.o., you'll see my compass. All the rest is mounted in the helm right below the top. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." Seem like the conclusion is "Keep the radio at least 3-ft away from the compass; but there is always exception." For me, I will likely mount the radio right under the T-top. This is not only for keeping away from the compass, but also for leaving room on the dash for a fishfinder and a GPS device (both cannot be surface-mounted and must be placed on top of the dash near the compass that is also on the dash). Jay Chan If I had a T-top that would support a radio, that's where the radio would go! -- John H "Have a **spectacular** day!! Glad to hear that you also like my plan of mounting the VHF radio underneat the T-top. This helps me to confirm the final location of the VHF radio. Jay Chan I assume you point the 8-ft antenna straight up instead of pointing it rearward at a 45 degree angle. I assume you want to get rid of the compass not because the radio antenna is causing problem to the compass and render the compass useless. You will remove it just to make room for the GPS/fishfinder and other fishing stuffs. Will the radio antenna cause problem to the internal antenna in the GPS? They need to be separated by at least 3-ft, right? Yes, I know the dual purpose GPS/fishfinder can save valuable space in a small boat like yours and mine. But I purchased the GPS and the fishfinder separately during the years. If I could do this again, I would purchase a combo unit. I assume you run cable between the GPS and the VHF radio in order to take advantage of the DSC feature. You are right to point out the need of leaving space on the dash for fishing related stuffs. I didn't think of that. With a compass, a GPS, and a fishfinder on my 2-sq-ft dashboard, I am wondering where to put anything else on the dashboard. Seem like I am going to have a problem putting a map any where on the dashboard. I may be better off mounting the GPS on the vertical frame of the T-top (the GPS doesn't need to be wired to a 12-volt battery and it may not need a GPS antenna; therefore, I can mount it anywhere). Thanks for pointing this out. Jay Chan Jay, no offense but you are going to worry yourself to death on this project. It really is not rocket science. ;-) No, this pays to worry about this stuff. You see, if I need to mount the GPS on the frame instead of on the dash, I will need to return the GPS mounting kit that I have already bought before the 30-days-return becomes expired. Otherwise, I will get stuck with a GPS mounting kit that I cannot use and cannot get a refund. Jay Chan |
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Position a VHF Radio, a FishFinder, and a GPS in a 18-Ft Center Console?
wrote in message ups.com... JimH wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Butch Davis wrote: Jay, Lacking a T-Top on my 16 footer I've decided to mount the VHF on the right side of the console in the dash with the 8 foot antenna mounted on the top right side of the console windshield guard rail. I'll remove the compass from the left side of the console top and mount the GPS/fishfinder there. The new GPS has an internal antenna. IMO, these dual purpose electronics make a lot of sense for a very small boat. I'll run the connector between the GPS and the VHS under the dash and up through the cable way from the inner console to the GPS/fishfinder. That'll leave the top right side of the console available for all the stuff I want to have right at hand while fishing. For the very few times I have need of a compass I'll carry a hand held. If interested in a high quality reasonablely priced high definition color GPS/fishfinder check out the Lowrance LMS-334C for inshore fishing or the LMS-339C for offshore fishing. About $600 - 650 w/xducer through Boatfix.com or TigerGPS.com. They are too new to see on the Lowrance web site but are virtually identical to the LMS-332 or LMS-337 but with an internal antenna which are on Lowrance's site. Butch wrote in message oups.com... JohnH wrote: On 13 Jan 2006 20:15:36 -0800, " wrote: JohnH wrote: On 13 Jan 2006 10:10:18 -0800, " wrote: Harry Krause wrote: wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On 12 Jan 2006 19:14:19 -0800, " wrote: I can keep the radio antenna at least 3 feet away from the GPS antenna by keep them in either side of the T-top. That works. But I don't see how I can avoid mounting the radio antenna near an metallic object. The frame of the T-top is definitely made from metal. If I mount the radio antenna on the T-top, I will be mounting the antenna right on an metallic object. Not a problem since the metal is under the antenna. What you need to avoid is metal at the same height or above the antenna. In reality these rules are broken all the time with only minimal impact on performance. They are good guidelines however. Thanks for the clarification. This means I should have no problem attaching a radio antenna on the frame of the T-top as long as I point the antenna away from the metal frame of the T-top. Good to know this. Jay Chan Jay, you really are obsessing a bit too much about all of this. Relax. Sorry if I seem to act like a bit obsessive. I have a list of boat improvement tasks waiting for me to do as soon as the weather becomes warm. When the weather is warm, I want to spend all my time to get the boat in a good shape, then I can launch the boat and start enjoying boating and fishing -- the sooner, the better. Therefore, I need to gather as much info as possible ahead of time to avoid any delay. And now is the best time to get all the questions answered. What is your opinion about positioning fishfinder/GPS near a compass or a VHF radio? Jay Chan FWIW, Jay, my compass is within a foot of my radio, GPS, and fishfinder. Haven't had a problem with any of them. If you look at the post 'trolling.jpg' in a.b.p.s.o., you'll see my compass. All the rest is mounted in the helm right below the top. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." Seem like the conclusion is "Keep the radio at least 3-ft away from the compass; but there is always exception." For me, I will likely mount the radio right under the T-top. This is not only for keeping away from the compass, but also for leaving room on the dash for a fishfinder and a GPS device (both cannot be surface-mounted and must be placed on top of the dash near the compass that is also on the dash). Jay Chan If I had a T-top that would support a radio, that's where the radio would go! -- John H "Have a **spectacular** day!! Glad to hear that you also like my plan of mounting the VHF radio underneat the T-top. This helps me to confirm the final location of the VHF radio. Jay Chan I assume you point the 8-ft antenna straight up instead of pointing it rearward at a 45 degree angle. I assume you want to get rid of the compass not because the radio antenna is causing problem to the compass and render the compass useless. You will remove it just to make room for the GPS/fishfinder and other fishing stuffs. Will the radio antenna cause problem to the internal antenna in the GPS? They need to be separated by at least 3-ft, right? Yes, I know the dual purpose GPS/fishfinder can save valuable space in a small boat like yours and mine. But I purchased the GPS and the fishfinder separately during the years. If I could do this again, I would purchase a combo unit. I assume you run cable between the GPS and the VHF radio in order to take advantage of the DSC feature. You are right to point out the need of leaving space on the dash for fishing related stuffs. I didn't think of that. With a compass, a GPS, and a fishfinder on my 2-sq-ft dashboard, I am wondering where to put anything else on the dashboard. Seem like I am going to have a problem putting a map any where on the dashboard. I may be better off mounting the GPS on the vertical frame of the T-top (the GPS doesn't need to be wired to a 12-volt battery and it may not need a GPS antenna; therefore, I can mount it anywhere). Thanks for pointing this out. Jay Chan Jay, no offense but you are going to worry yourself to death on this project. It really is not rocket science. ;-) No, this pays to worry about this stuff. You see, if I need to mount the GPS on the frame instead of on the dash, I will need to return the GPS mounting kit that I have already bought before the 30-days-return becomes expired. Otherwise, I will get stuck with a GPS mounting kit that I cannot use and cannot get a refund. Jay Chan 15 posts on this and the VHS antenna...............I bet you wear a belt and suspenders. LOL. Good luck with the project. ;-) |
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Position a VHF Radio, a FishFinder, and a GPS in a 18-Ft Center Console?
On 16 Jan 2006 11:48:40 -0800, "
wrote: JohnH wrote: On 16 Jan 2006 05:56:53 -0800, " wrote: JohnH wrote: On 13 Jan 2006 20:15:36 -0800, " wrote: JohnH wrote: On 13 Jan 2006 10:10:18 -0800, " wrote: Harry Krause wrote: wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On 12 Jan 2006 19:14:19 -0800, " wrote: I can keep the radio antenna at least 3 feet away from the GPS antenna by keep them in either side of the T-top. That works. But I don't see how I can avoid mounting the radio antenna near an metallic object. The frame of the T-top is definitely made from metal. If I mount the radio antenna on the T-top, I will be mounting the antenna right on an metallic object. Not a problem since the metal is under the antenna. What you need to avoid is metal at the same height or above the antenna. In reality these rules are broken all the time with only minimal impact on performance. They are good guidelines however. Thanks for the clarification. This means I should have no problem attaching a radio antenna on the frame of the T-top as long as I point the antenna away from the metal frame of the T-top. Good to know this. Jay Chan Jay, you really are obsessing a bit too much about all of this. Relax. Sorry if I seem to act like a bit obsessive. I have a list of boat improvement tasks waiting for me to do as soon as the weather becomes warm. When the weather is warm, I want to spend all my time to get the boat in a good shape, then I can launch the boat and start enjoying boating and fishing -- the sooner, the better. Therefore, I need to gather as much info as possible ahead of time to avoid any delay. And now is the best time to get all the questions answered. What is your opinion about positioning fishfinder/GPS near a compass or a VHF radio? Jay Chan FWIW, Jay, my compass is within a foot of my radio, GPS, and fishfinder. Haven't had a problem with any of them. If you look at the post 'trolling.jpg' in a.b.p.s.o., you'll see my compass. All the rest is mounted in the helm right below the top. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." Seem like the conclusion is "Keep the radio at least 3-ft away from the compass; but there is always exception." For me, I will likely mount the radio right under the T-top. This is not only for keeping away from the compass, but also for leaving room on the dash for a fishfinder and a GPS device (both cannot be surface-mounted and must be placed on top of the dash near the compass that is also on the dash). Jay Chan If I had a T-top that would support a radio, that's where the radio would go! -- John H "Have a **spectacular** day!! Glad to hear that you also like my plan of mounting the VHF radio underneat the T-top. This helps me to confirm the final location of the VHF radio. Jay Chan Soon you'll have to consider anchors, rode, etc. -- John H ******Have a spectacular day!****** Wow! You can read my mind. I am not kidding. I am really looking of a way to secure the anchor. The anchor is currently being secured to a cleat. I am not sure if the cleat is strong enough for the anchor, and I don't like the fact that the rope of the anchor is rubbing against the gelcoat gunwhale. But I will not ask this question about the anchor until I have spent some time checking the cleat and looking for product available in the market, and making sure the anchor will not block a bow-mounted trolling motor that I will add to my boat. Jay Chan Put some pics of the boat over on alt.binaries.pictures.sports.ocean! -- John H ******Have a spectacular day!****** |
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Position a VHF Radio, a FishFinder, and a GPS in a 18-Ft Center Console?
JohnH wrote:
On 16 Jan 2006 11:48:40 -0800, " wrote: JohnH wrote: On 16 Jan 2006 05:56:53 -0800, " wrote: JohnH wrote: On 13 Jan 2006 20:15:36 -0800, " wrote: JohnH wrote: On 13 Jan 2006 10:10:18 -0800, " wrote: Harry Krause wrote: wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On 12 Jan 2006 19:14:19 -0800, " wrote: I can keep the radio antenna at least 3 feet away from the GPS antenna by keep them in either side of the T-top. That works. But I don't see how I can avoid mounting the radio antenna near an metallic object. The frame of the T-top is definitely made from metal. If I mount the radio antenna on the T-top, I will be mounting the antenna right on an metallic object. Not a problem since the metal is under the antenna. What you need to avoid is metal at the same height or above the antenna. In reality these rules are broken all the time with only minimal impact on performance. They are good guidelines however. Thanks for the clarification. This means I should have no problem attaching a radio antenna on the frame of the T-top as long as I point the antenna away from the metal frame of the T-top. Good to know this. Jay Chan Jay, you really are obsessing a bit too much about all of this. Relax. Sorry if I seem to act like a bit obsessive. I have a list of boat improvement tasks waiting for me to do as soon as the weather becomes warm. When the weather is warm, I want to spend all my time to get the boat in a good shape, then I can launch the boat and start enjoying boating and fishing -- the sooner, the better. Therefore, I need to gather as much info as possible ahead of time to avoid any delay. And now is the best time to get all the questions answered. What is your opinion about positioning fishfinder/GPS near a compass or a VHF radio? Jay Chan FWIW, Jay, my compass is within a foot of my radio, GPS, and fishfinder. Haven't had a problem with any of them. If you look at the post 'trolling.jpg' in a.b.p.s.o., you'll see my compass. All the rest is mounted in the helm right below the top. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." Seem like the conclusion is "Keep the radio at least 3-ft away from the compass; but there is always exception." For me, I will likely mount the radio right under the T-top. This is not only for keeping away from the compass, but also for leaving room on the dash for a fishfinder and a GPS device (both cannot be surface-mounted and must be placed on top of the dash near the compass that is also on the dash). Jay Chan If I had a T-top that would support a radio, that's where the radio would go! -- John H "Have a **spectacular** day!! Glad to hear that you also like my plan of mounting the VHF radio underneat the T-top. This helps me to confirm the final location of the VHF radio. Jay Chan Soon you'll have to consider anchors, rode, etc. -- John H ******Have a spectacular day!****** Wow! You can read my mind. I am not kidding. I am really looking of a way to secure the anchor. The anchor is currently being secured to a cleat. I am not sure if the cleat is strong enough for the anchor, and I don't like the fact that the rope of the anchor is rubbing against the gelcoat gunwhale. But I will not ask this question about the anchor until I have spent some time checking the cleat and looking for product available in the market, and making sure the anchor will not block a bow-mounted trolling motor that I will add to my boat. Jay Chan Put some pics of the boat over on alt.binaries.pictures.sports.ocean! -- John H ******Have a spectacular day!****** I will do that after I have figured out how to improve my boat page in my web page in Yahoo. Jay Chan |
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