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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 07:13:27 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Bryan" wrote in message . net... About a month ago (my timeline could be off bit) the news was reporting that farm raised salmon were less healthy for humans than wild salmon; I don't recall if it was a heart disease report, or something else. If I recall correctly it had something to do with the amount of fat contained in farm raised salmon. Eisboch I believe you're right. Farm raised salmon are *very* fatty, especially when compared to wild salmon. -- John H ******Have a spectacular day!****** |
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 07:13:27 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Bryan" wrote in message . net... About a month ago (my timeline could be off bit) the news was reporting that farm raised salmon were less healthy for humans than wild salmon; I don't recall if it was a heart disease report, or something else. If I recall correctly it had something to do with the amount of fat contained in farm raised salmon. Eisboch PS. I've noticed that the amount of fat seems to vary considerably. The Safeway salmon is very fatty, but the Costco salmon shows much less fat. The Costco salmon also tastes much better than the Safeway. But, none of them are as good as the wild stuff! -- John H ******Have a spectacular day!****** |
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![]() "Calif Bill" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Gordon" wrote in message ... The disease in deer and elk is called chronic wasting disease or cwd. This sounds better than the infamous "mad cow disease", however they are closely related. I hunted Colorado this fall and they go into great detail on how to safely handle the meat. To date, there are no known cases of humans contacting the disease. As for diseased fish, thats all nonsense as far as I can tell. However, if someone read it on the internet, it must be true! Gordon Mad cow disease is caused by prions. I'm not totally clear on what that is, but diseased meat cannot be made safe by cooking, unless the meat's incinerated beyond the point of being edible. If CWD is also caused by prions, there is no way to safely handle the meat other than to not eat it. As far as fish diseases, which ones are nonsense? Whirling disease? Others? Enlighten me. The Mad Cow prions seem to affect man. There is another prion disease found in sheep, that does not cross over. What about the fish diseases which you claim to be nonsense? You haven't answered that question. I'm going to need to see some cites which describe the research on these non-issue diseases. The fish diseases affect the wild fish. Whirling disease from hatchery trout has screwed up more than one lake. Wild fish can infect farm fish and vice versa. The feed has antibiotics in it to protect the farmed fish. If that bothers you, then so should commercially grown chicken, beef, and all farm crops. Remember DDT and alar? Gordon |
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![]() "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... While we're pondering the unanswerable: When the batteries in the TV remote are getting weak, why do we press harder on the buttons? Well, duh, because we can! And besides, after all the years of our wives telling us "harder, harder" it reminds us of sex. And it's the best of both worlds: we think we're having sex and we get to watch tv! |
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![]() "Gordon" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Gordon" wrote in message ... The disease in deer and elk is called chronic wasting disease or cwd. This sounds better than the infamous "mad cow disease", however they are closely related. I hunted Colorado this fall and they go into great detail on how to safely handle the meat. To date, there are no known cases of humans contacting the disease. As for diseased fish, thats all nonsense as far as I can tell. However, if someone read it on the internet, it must be true! Gordon Mad cow disease is caused by prions. I'm not totally clear on what that is, but diseased meat cannot be made safe by cooking, unless the meat's incinerated beyond the point of being edible. If CWD is also caused by prions, there is no way to safely handle the meat other than to not eat it. As far as fish diseases, which ones are nonsense? Whirling disease? Others? Enlighten me. The Mad Cow prions seem to affect man. There is another prion disease found in sheep, that does not cross over. What about the fish diseases which you claim to be nonsense? You haven't answered that question. I'm going to need to see some cites which describe the research on these non-issue diseases. The fish diseases affect the wild fish. Whirling disease from hatchery trout has screwed up more than one lake. Wild fish can infect farm fish and vice versa. The feed has antibiotics in it to protect the farmed fish. If that bothers you, then so should commercially grown chicken, beef, and all farm crops. Remember DDT and alar? Gordon DDT, was actually benign to humans, just screwed up the reproduction of birds. Thin eggs. I do not like all the antibiotics and hormones in animals. Seen the young ladies these days? When you see a 10 year old, that is as developed as the 15 year olds of the late 1950's when I was 15, you can see that things are not good. Alar, is a bogus answer. Sure the wild can give disease to the farm raised, but more likely the other way. And since farm animal byproducts are part of farm raised fish food, you get a double dose of the hormones and other drugs. Besides I like to catch salmon, but do not care to eat them. Plus it is an extremely dirty, polluting business. |
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![]() "Bryan" wrote in message om... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... While we're pondering the unanswerable: When the batteries in the TV remote are getting weak, why do we press harder on the buttons? Well, duh, because we can! And besides, after all the years of our wives telling us "harder, harder" it reminds us of sex. And it's the best of both worlds: we think we're having sex and we get to watch tv! ROTFLMAO! |
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![]() And while I'm at it, why do people go nuts when there is a minor sewage spill yet the city of Victoria Canada can dump 34 million gallons of untreated sewage per DAY into the Straits of Juan de Fuca with no adverse effects? Gordon You'll be pleased to know that the Liberals in Canada are now pressing, hard, to fund a sewage treatment plant in Victoria. Looks like you and the Liberals are on the same side here, but to be fair the Conservatives are also in favor of a sewage plant (as well as additional army bases) so you don't *really* have to agree with the Liberals in order to be in favor of sewage treatment. :-) ***** Victoria sewage plant in Liberal plan View Larger Image Prime Minister Paul Martin's Liberals will unveil a new "made-in-B.C. agenda" on Friday. Photograph by : Canadian Press Article Tools Printer friendly Font: * * * * CanWest News Service Published: Friday, January 06, 2006 OTTAWA -- Funding for a sewage treatment plant for Greater Victoria is part of a made-for-B.C. agenda that federal Liberals are expected to release today as part their election campaign. The list of priorities, being championed by B.C. Liberal MPs, also includes: - A national centre for disaster-response training and research. - A B.C.-focused regional-development agency. - A research centre on drug addiction and mental health in Surrey - A new visa office in Guangzhou in southern China - Funding for Nanaimo's convention centre in Nanaimo. Building a sewage treatment plant would allow Greater Victoria to end its practice of dumping raw sewage into Juan de Fuca Strait. But the idea of building such a plant remains controversial, with many people, including Victoria Liberal MP David Anderson, who isn't running again, saying it's not necessary because the ocean does an excellent job of diluting and dispersing the sewage, rendering it harmless. Victoria Mayor Alan Lowe, a sewage treatment plant supporter, said he's delighted with the news. He pointed out that the NDP and Conservatives are also supporting sewage treatment for Victoria. "They're all talking about it now. They know this has been an issue in the capital region for decades. The timing is right. The 2010 Olympics are coming. The capital city should have sewage treatment," said Lowe. Liberal Industry Minister David Emerson and Health Minister Ujjal Dosanjh are to reveal the B.C. platform in Vancouver today. Conservative Leader Stephen Harper recently released his own long list of B.C. vows that includes re-establishing an army base on the West Coast and giving British Columbians more seats in Parliament. The special attention to B.C. voters reflects the view among many analysts that the winner of the Jan. 23 election will be decided in many B.C. ridings, which are seeing tight two- and three-way races. "What this is really doing is flattering British Columbians," said University of Victoria political scientist Norman Ruff. "It speaks to the special position of B.C. as the government breaker or government maker." The new Liberal plan doesn't promise a new army base, but does respond to the natural disaster concerns that played a role in Harper's vow to reverse the 1995 Liberal decision to shut B.C.'s only army base, which was located in Chilliwack. "More than any other place in Canada, B.C. communities are vulnerable to threats such as earthquakes, tsunamis, and forest fires. Greater Vancouver is susceptible to flooding if the Fraser River and its tributaries overflow," states the Liberal plan, which was provided to The Vancouver Sun. © Times Colonist (Victoria) 2006 |
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Skipper wrote:
wrote: You'll be pleased to know that the Liberals in Canada are now pressing, hard, to fund a... alt.politics. -- Skipper Ease up! No one tells you to take your 'boating adventures' to alt.fantasies. |
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