On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 07:13:27 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Bryan" wrote in message
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About a month ago (my timeline could be off bit) the news was reporting
that farm raised salmon were less healthy for humans than wild salmon; I
don't recall if it was a heart disease report, or something else.


If I recall correctly it had something to do with the amount of fat
contained in farm raised salmon.

Eisboch


I believe you're right. Farm raised salmon are *very* fatty, especially
when compared to wild salmon.
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 07:13:27 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Bryan" wrote in message
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About a month ago (my timeline could be off bit) the news was reporting
that farm raised salmon were less healthy for humans than wild salmon; I
don't recall if it was a heart disease report, or something else.


If I recall correctly it had something to do with the amount of fat
contained in farm raised salmon.

Eisboch


PS. I've noticed that the amount of fat seems to vary considerably. The
Safeway salmon is very fatty, but the Costco salmon shows much less fat.
The Costco salmon also tastes much better than the Safeway.

But, none of them are as good as the wild stuff!
--
John H

******Have a spectacular day!******

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"Gordon" wrote in message
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The disease in deer and elk is called chronic wasting disease or
cwd.
This
sounds better than the infamous "mad cow disease", however they are
closely
related. I hunted Colorado this fall and they go into great detail on
how to
safely handle the meat. To date, there are no known cases of humans
contacting the disease.
As for diseased fish, thats all nonsense as far as I can tell.
However,
if
someone read it on the internet, it must be true!
Gordon

Mad cow disease is caused by prions. I'm not totally clear on what
that
is, but diseased meat cannot be made safe by cooking, unless the
meat's
incinerated beyond the point of being edible. If CWD is also caused by
prions, there is no way to safely handle the meat other than to not
eat
it.

As far as fish diseases, which ones are nonsense? Whirling disease?
Others? Enlighten me.


The Mad Cow prions seem to affect man. There is another prion disease
found in sheep, that does not cross over.


What about the fish diseases which you claim to be nonsense? You haven't
answered that question. I'm going to need to see some cites which
describe
the research on these non-issue diseases.


The fish diseases affect the wild fish. Whirling disease from hatchery
trout has screwed up more than one lake.



Wild fish can infect farm fish and vice versa. The feed has antibiotics
in it to protect the farmed fish. If that bothers you, then so should
commercially grown chicken, beef, and all farm crops. Remember DDT and alar?
Gordon

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...


While we're pondering the unanswerable: When the batteries in the TV
remote are getting weak, why do we press harder on the buttons?


Well, duh, because we can! And besides, after all the years of our wives
telling us "harder, harder" it reminds us of sex. And it's the best of both
worlds: we think we're having sex and we get to watch tv!

"Gordon" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Gordon" wrote in message
...
The disease in deer and elk is called chronic wasting disease or
cwd.
This
sounds better than the infamous "mad cow disease", however they are
closely
related. I hunted Colorado this fall and they go into great detail
on
how to
safely handle the meat. To date, there are no known cases of humans
contacting the disease.
As for diseased fish, thats all nonsense as far as I can tell.
However,
if
someone read it on the internet, it must be true!
Gordon

Mad cow disease is caused by prions. I'm not totally clear on what
that
is, but diseased meat cannot be made safe by cooking, unless the
meat's
incinerated beyond the point of being edible. If CWD is also caused
by
prions, there is no way to safely handle the meat other than to not
eat
it.

As far as fish diseases, which ones are nonsense? Whirling disease?
Others? Enlighten me.


The Mad Cow prions seem to affect man. There is another prion disease
found in sheep, that does not cross over.


What about the fish diseases which you claim to be nonsense? You
haven't
answered that question. I'm going to need to see some cites which
describe
the research on these non-issue diseases.


The fish diseases affect the wild fish. Whirling disease from hatchery
trout has screwed up more than one lake.



Wild fish can infect farm fish and vice versa. The feed has antibiotics
in it to protect the farmed fish. If that bothers you, then so should
commercially grown chicken, beef, and all farm crops. Remember DDT and
alar?
Gordon



DDT, was actually benign to humans, just screwed up the reproduction of
birds. Thin eggs. I do not like all the antibiotics and hormones in
animals. Seen the young ladies these days? When you see a 10 year old,
that is as developed as the 15 year olds of the late 1950's when I was 15,
you can see that things are not good. Alar, is a bogus answer. Sure the
wild can give disease to the farm raised, but more likely the other way.
And since farm animal byproducts are part of farm raised fish food, you get
a double dose of the hormones and other drugs. Besides I like to catch
salmon, but do not care to eat them. Plus it is an extremely dirty,
polluting business.

"Bryan" wrote in message
om...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...


While we're pondering the unanswerable: When the batteries in the TV
remote are getting weak, why do we press harder on the buttons?


Well, duh, because we can! And besides, after all the years of our wives
telling us "harder, harder" it reminds us of sex. And it's the best of
both worlds: we think we're having sex and we get to watch tv!




ROTFLMAO!

And while I'm at it, why do people go nuts when there is a minor sewage
spill yet the city of Victoria Canada can dump 34 million gallons of
untreated sewage per DAY into the Straits of Juan de Fuca with no adverse
effects?
Gordon


You'll be pleased to know that the Liberals in Canada are now pressing,
hard, to fund a sewage treatment plant in Victoria. Looks like you and
the Liberals are on the same side here, but to be fair the
Conservatives are also in favor of a sewage plant (as well as
additional army bases) so you don't *really* have to agree with the
Liberals in order to be in favor of sewage treatment. :-)

*****


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OTTAWA -- Funding for a sewage treatment plant for Greater Victoria is
part of a made-for-B.C. agenda that federal Liberals are expected to
release today as part their election campaign.

The list of priorities, being championed by B.C. Liberal MPs, also
includes:

- A national centre for disaster-response training and research.

- A B.C.-focused regional-development agency.

- A research centre on drug addiction and mental health in Surrey

- A new visa office in Guangzhou in southern China

- Funding for Nanaimo's convention centre in Nanaimo.

Building a sewage treatment plant would allow Greater Victoria to end
its practice of dumping raw sewage into Juan de Fuca Strait.

But the idea of building such a plant remains controversial, with many
people, including Victoria Liberal MP David Anderson, who isn't running
again, saying it's not necessary because the ocean does an excellent
job of diluting and dispersing the sewage, rendering it harmless.

Victoria Mayor Alan Lowe, a sewage treatment plant supporter, said he's
delighted with the news. He pointed out that the NDP and Conservatives
are also supporting sewage treatment for Victoria.

"They're all talking about it now. They know this has been an issue in
the capital region for decades. The timing is right. The 2010 Olympics
are coming. The capital city should have sewage treatment," said Lowe.

Liberal Industry Minister David Emerson and Health Minister Ujjal
Dosanjh are to reveal the B.C. platform in Vancouver today.

Conservative Leader Stephen Harper recently released his own long list
of B.C. vows that includes re-establishing an army base on the West
Coast and giving British Columbians more seats in Parliament.

The special attention to B.C. voters reflects the view among many
analysts that the winner of the Jan. 23 election will be decided in
many B.C. ridings, which are seeing tight two- and three-way races.

"What this is really doing is flattering British Columbians," said
University of Victoria political scientist Norman Ruff. "It speaks to
the special position of B.C. as the government breaker or government
maker."

The new Liberal plan doesn't promise a new army base, but does respond
to the natural disaster concerns that played a role in Harper's vow to
reverse the 1995 Liberal decision to shut B.C.'s only army base, which
was located in Chilliwack.

"More than any other place in Canada, B.C. communities are vulnerable
to threats such as earthquakes, tsunamis, and forest fires. Greater
Vancouver is susceptible to flooding if the Fraser River and its
tributaries overflow," states the Liberal plan, which was provided to
The Vancouver Sun.

© Times Colonist (Victoria) 2006

wrote:


You'll be pleased to know that the Liberals in Canada are now pressing,
hard, to fund a sewage treatment plant in Victoria. Looks like you and
the Liberals are on the same side here, but to be fair the
Conservatives are also in favor of a sewage plant (as well as
additional army bases) so you don't *really* have to agree with the
Liberals in order to be in favor of sewage treatment. :-)

*****


Victoria sewage plant in Liberal plan
snip..


We've finally got our act in gear....
It'll be nice to sail the inner harbour again without the crappy odours.
http://www.halifax.ca/harboursol/

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