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Sailboat engine rebuild, replace, fix question
I am looking at a 35' sailboat, full keel, older. The Universal Atomic 4
gas engine is still there .. and it needs to be rebuilt. Since I am not against gas engines [I have had them in the past], I thought before I do anything ......... look into taking the engine out of the boat, getting it rebuilt and putting it back in. I know that Moyer Marine in PA is the guru of the Atomic 4. He sells and stocks all the parts and rebuilds the engines. My first thought was to bring the engine to PA and have him do the rebuild. That is a 450 mile drive; one way. Next thought; have a local engine rebuilder rebuild the engine using parts that we/the engine rebuilder and me/ get from Moyer. Then I thought; is there some big difference between the Atomic 4 gas engine and the auto engines that the local engine rebuilders are working on? That is where I need your help............. CAN A LOCAL ENGINE REBUILDER "REBUILD" A MARINE GAS ENGINE SUCH AS THE UNIVERSAL ATOMIC 4 GAS ENGINE? IF YOU HAVE ANY FIRST HAND ADVICE .......... THANKS,, Wentworth |
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Absolutely agree with Harry's recommendation.
Butch "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Thomas Wentworth wrote: I am looking at a 35' sailboat, full keel, older. The Universal Atomic 4 gas engine is still there .. and it needs to be rebuilt. Since I am not against gas engines [I have had them in the past], I thought before I do anything ......... look into taking the engine out of the boat, getting it rebuilt and putting it back in. I know that Moyer Marine in PA is the guru of the Atomic 4. He sells and stocks all the parts and rebuilds the engines. My first thought was to bring the engine to PA and have him do the rebuild. That is a 450 mile drive; one way. Next thought; have a local engine rebuilder rebuild the engine using parts that we/the engine rebuilder and me/ get from Moyer. Then I thought; is there some big difference between the Atomic 4 gas engine and the auto engines that the local engine rebuilders are working on? That is where I need your help............. CAN A LOCAL ENGINE REBUILDER "REBUILD" A MARINE GAS ENGINE SUCH AS THE UNIVERSAL ATOMIC 4 GAS ENGINE? IF YOU HAVE ANY FIRST HAND ADVICE .......... THANKS,, Wentworth What not call the Atomic rebuilder and arrange a swap. You buy one of his reubilt specials, and you trade in for some credit your old engine. Sure, a local guy can do it, but why not deal with someone who knows the engines. |
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On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 09:53:39 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: Thomas Wentworth wrote: I am looking at a 35' sailboat, full keel, older. The Universal Atomic 4 gas engine is still there .. and it needs to be rebuilt. Since I am not against gas engines [I have had them in the past], I thought before I do anything ......... look into taking the engine out of the boat, getting it rebuilt and putting it back in. I know that Moyer Marine in PA is the guru of the Atomic 4. He sells and stocks all the parts and rebuilds the engines. My first thought was to bring the engine to PA and have him do the rebuild. That is a 450 mile drive; one way. Next thought; have a local engine rebuilder rebuild the engine using parts that we/the engine rebuilder and me/ get from Moyer. Then I thought; is there some big difference between the Atomic 4 gas engine and the auto engines that the local engine rebuilders are working on? That is where I need your help............. CAN A LOCAL ENGINE REBUILDER "REBUILD" A MARINE GAS ENGINE SUCH AS THE UNIVERSAL ATOMIC 4 GAS ENGINE? IF YOU HAVE ANY FIRST HAND ADVICE .......... THANKS,, Wentworth What not call the Atomic rebuilder and arrange a swap. You buy one of his reubilt specials, and you trade in for some credit your old engine. Sure, a local guy can do it, but why not deal with someone who knows the engines. No problem, if the rebuilt works as promised. Otherwise he's got a couple 900 mile trips to get the kinks out of it. -- John H ******Have a spectacular day!****** |
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Thomas Wentworth wrote:
I am looking at a 35' sailboat, full keel, older. The Universal Atomic 4 gas engine is still there .. and it needs to be rebuilt. Since I am not against gas engines [I have had them in the past], I thought before I do anything ......... look into taking the engine out of the boat, getting it rebuilt and putting it back in. I know that Moyer Marine in PA is the guru of the Atomic 4. He sells and stocks all the parts and rebuilds the engines. My first thought was to bring the engine to PA and have him do the rebuild. That is a 450 mile drive; one way. Next thought; have a local engine rebuilder rebuild the engine using parts that we/the engine rebuilder and me/ get from Moyer. Then I thought; is there some big difference between the Atomic 4 gas engine and the auto engines that the local engine rebuilders are working on? That is where I need your help............. CAN A LOCAL ENGINE REBUILDER "REBUILD" A MARINE GAS ENGINE SUCH AS THE UNIVERSAL ATOMIC 4 GAS ENGINE? IF YOU HAVE ANY FIRST HAND ADVICE .......... THANKS,, Wentworth Accept you don't actually object to the petrol engine & if all goes well nor should you. This is going to cost you some money indeed probably more, much more than that engine cost new back when & after 6 mths use it will not have added a single dollar to the value of the new boat??? It's an original engine that works OK as expected would be a potential purchasers take on it. Everybody claims theirs is "like new" but it's not "new" it's been living in the sea environment for ages. Probably cost you a little more & certainly the install will not be a drop in, but look into the new diesels you'll get more HP for the same size & weight, much safer, cheaper to run/maintain, but the main thing is it'll add value to the boat & distinguish it from others similar that still have the old petrol atomic 4s. It will still cost you of course but at least you can recoup part of it, keeping the old is money just spent fixing something that's broken. K |
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I agree with everything you posted ... BUT.. for a variety of reasons [where
the boat is, the situation with the owner, etc] If I can come up with a workable plan to take out the AT4, and put it back in .. I can save $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and get to buy the boat .. Sure, you are absolutely right.. I am looking at short money rather than long money. But,, sometimes this is the deal breaker. Time will tell. Thanks,, for the posting though. "K. Smith" wrote in message ... Thomas Wentworth wrote: I am looking at a 35' sailboat, full keel, older. The Universal Atomic 4 gas engine is still there .. and it needs to be rebuilt. Since I am not against gas engines [I have had them in the past], I thought before I do anything ......... look into taking the engine out of the boat, getting it rebuilt and putting it back in. I know that Moyer Marine in PA is the guru of the Atomic 4. He sells and stocks all the parts and rebuilds the engines. My first thought was to bring the engine to PA and have him do the rebuild. That is a 450 mile drive; one way. Next thought; have a local engine rebuilder rebuild the engine using parts that we/the engine rebuilder and me/ get from Moyer. Then I thought; is there some big difference between the Atomic 4 gas engine and the auto engines that the local engine rebuilders are working on? That is where I need your help............. CAN A LOCAL ENGINE REBUILDER "REBUILD" A MARINE GAS ENGINE SUCH AS THE UNIVERSAL ATOMIC 4 GAS ENGINE? IF YOU HAVE ANY FIRST HAND ADVICE .......... THANKS,, Wentworth Accept you don't actually object to the petrol engine & if all goes well nor should you. This is going to cost you some money indeed probably more, much more than that engine cost new back when & after 6 mths use it will not have added a single dollar to the value of the new boat??? It's an original engine that works OK as expected would be a potential purchasers take on it. Everybody claims theirs is "like new" but it's not "new" it's been living in the sea environment for ages. Probably cost you a little more & certainly the install will not be a drop in, but look into the new diesels you'll get more HP for the same size & weight, much safer, cheaper to run/maintain, but the main thing is it'll add value to the boat & distinguish it from others similar that still have the old petrol atomic 4s. It will still cost you of course but at least you can recoup part of it, keeping the old is money just spent fixing something that's broken. K |
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"JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 09:53:39 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: Thomas Wentworth wrote: I am looking at a 35' sailboat, full keel, older. The Universal Atomic 4 gas engine is still there .. and it needs to be rebuilt. Since I am not against gas engines [I have had them in the past], I thought before I do anything ......... look into taking the engine out of the boat, getting it rebuilt and putting it back in. I know that Moyer Marine in PA is the guru of the Atomic 4. He sells and stocks all the parts and rebuilds the engines. My first thought was to bring the engine to PA and have him do the rebuild. That is a 450 mile drive; one way. Next thought; have a local engine rebuilder rebuild the engine using parts that we/the engine rebuilder and me/ get from Moyer. Then I thought; is there some big difference between the Atomic 4 gas engine and the auto engines that the local engine rebuilders are working on? That is where I need your help............. CAN A LOCAL ENGINE REBUILDER "REBUILD" A MARINE GAS ENGINE SUCH AS THE UNIVERSAL ATOMIC 4 GAS ENGINE? IF YOU HAVE ANY FIRST HAND ADVICE .......... THANKS,, Wentworth What not call the Atomic rebuilder and arrange a swap. You buy one of his reubilt specials, and you trade in for some credit your old engine. Sure, a local guy can do it, but why not deal with someone who knows the engines. No problem, if the rebuilt works as promised. Otherwise he's got a couple 900 mile trips to get the kinks out of it. -- John H ******Have a spectacular day!****** Have to get an older guy to work on the engine. I have not dealt with one since about 1990, but I think they are flatheads. |
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