Harry Krause wrote:

Skipper wrote:
Don White wrote:

I think it's the majority that reject your monitoring Skippy.

I never proffered being the monitor, Don. I did suggest..."

The only worthwhile suggestion for someone like you is ESAD.

Go take a cold shower, Krause.

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Skipper

On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:32:54 -0600, Skipper wrote:

JohnH wrote:

Skipper's not your average troll. He often has exhibited a level of above
average intelligence in some of his posts and has occasionally contributed
some interesting POVs on subjects kicked around here.
RCE

There is a small minority who seem to have one goal, to drag this group
into the gutter.

It's a shame.

Then I take it you're for a democratically administered and monitored
rec.boats. Or can we count you among the minority preferring continued
anarchy?

No, I'm for the small minority growing up.
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'Til next time,

John H

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On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 16:11:30 -0600, Skipper wrote:

Don White wrote:

I think it's the majority that reject your monitoring Skippy.

I never proffered being the monitor, Don. I did suggest a committee of
*NG elected* monitors to restore the NG to its previously interesting
open and far more civil format. We would *all* decide just what that
format would be in the month of discussion and voting on the charter. I
suspect the end result would be far less political and flame throwing
threads. Suspect I'd have a far easier time abiding by a responsible NG
charter than you would, however. Some of us would find ourselves
severely challenged if we primarily discussed boats 'n boating, eh, Don?

Skipper, Chuck posted a challenge that many of us accepted and have tried
to maintain. A few have decided they'd rather sling mud.

Is rec.boats.cruising a 'monitored' group? I think not. Yet they manage
quite well. Why? How often do you see a political/religious thread over
there? How often do you see a political/religious thread here that doesn't
become a name-calling free-for-all.

Monitor yourself. Urge others to monitor themselves.
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John H

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Harry Krause wrote:

Out picking nits in your LobsterHatt again, Harry?

You're misquoting the words of someone significant, dipstick. I know
that probably doesn't mean much to an ill-educated idiot like you, but
it *is* important to be careful with the words of US presidents,
especially the ones who could speak standard English.

I have very little respect for the likes of Truman, Johnson and Carter.
They did great harm to this country, even though they did know what is
is.

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Skipper

JohnH wrote:

Then I take it you're for a democratically administered and monitored
rec.boats. Or can we count you among the minority preferring continued
anarchy?

No, I'm for the small minority growing up.

Do you do your tallying in quantity of posts or contributors?

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Skipper

Skipper wrote:
Don White wrote:


I think it's the majority that reject your monitoring Skippy.


I never proffered being the monitor, Don. I did suggest a committee of
*NG elected* monitors to restore the NG to its previously interesting
open and far more civil format. We would *all* decide just what that
format would be in the month of discussion and voting on the charter. I
suspect the end result would be far less political and flame throwing
threads. Suspect I'd have a far easier time abiding by a responsible NG
charter than you would, however. Some of us would find ourselves
severely challenged if we primarily discussed boats 'n boating, eh, Don?

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Skipper

I'd probably be reduced to reading and regurgitating other sailors
adventures...such as cruises in exotic locations like.....the Sea of
Cortes etc.

JohnH wrote:

Is rec.boats.cruising a 'monitored' group? I think not. Yet they manage
quite well. Why? How often do you see a political/religious thread over
there? How often do you see a political/religious thread here that doesn't
become a name-calling free-for-all.

It just won't work here, John...for many reasons. The only hope for
alt.sailing.asa and this NG is democratic monitoring. Monitors who allow
off-topic, differing views and lively discussions, but keep it within
bounds. I think we all know when it goes to far. Sans monitors, there's
just no reasonable way to bring it back from the small-minded off-topic
chatroom and flamefest it has become.

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"Skipper" wrote in message
...
RCE wrote:

Skipper's not your average troll. He often has exhibited a level of
above
average intelligence in some of his posts and has occasionally
contributed
some interesting POVs on subjects kicked around here. Unfortunately, he
has
a dark side...

You honestly believe Skipper has been taken over by the dark side?


Skipper was never taken over. He was always there. Which Skipper are you?


Over time however a trend emerges and there is no longer any doubt as to
his
intent. His latest offering was not his best effort ... it left no room
for
interpretation.

How do you think you scored on the SOH meter, Eisbock? Same as before?

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Skipper

Sorry. SOH? decipher please. Oh, ... it was Eisboch... not Eisbock.

RCE

On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 17:27:02 -0600, Skipper wrote:

JohnH wrote:

Is rec.boats.cruising a 'monitored' group? I think not. Yet they manage
quite well. Why? How often do you see a political/religious thread over
there? How often do you see a political/religious thread here that doesn't
become a name-calling free-for-all.

It just won't work here, John...for many reasons. The only hope for
alt.sailing.asa and this NG is democratic monitoring. Monitors who allow
off-topic, differing views and lively discussions, but keep it within
bounds. I think we all know when it goes to far. Sans monitors, there's
just no reasonable way to bring it back from the small-minded off-topic
chatroom and flamefest it has become.

I made no mention of alt.sailing.asa. Never been there. I mentioned
rec.boats.cruising. You've been there. It's not monitored. It doesn't
suffer the problems of this group. Why?

We have a small minority of posters who are trollers. We have a small
minority of posters who can't resist getting hooked.
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John H

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JohnH wrote:

Skipper wrote:

It just won't work here, John...for many reasons. The only hope for
alt.sailing.asa and this NG is democratic monitoring. Monitors who allow
off-topic, differing views and lively discussions, but keep it within
bounds. I think we all know when it goes to far. Sans monitors, there's
just no reasonable way to bring it back from the small-minded off-topic
chatroom and flamefest it has become.

We have a small minority of posters who are trollers. We have a small
minority of posters who can't resist getting hooked.

Small minority? Actually, it's the *majority* of those still posting to
this NG. I recently polled a sampling of NG regulars, contributors to
other boating NGs, and past rec.boats contributors. The response was
revealing; no current rec.boats posters were in favor of moderating the
flame, almost all past contributors and contributors to other boating
groups favored moderation. When in Rome... And a good Skipper has a
realistic eye to the weather. This and alt.sailing.asa *are* the NGs for
boating trollers. Krause made that happen.

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Skipper