Skipper wrote:
JohnH wrote:


Skipper wrote:


It just won't work here, John...for many reasons. The only hope for
alt.sailing.asa and this NG is democratic monitoring. Monitors who allow
off-topic, differing views and lively discussions, but keep it within
bounds. I think we all know when it goes to far. Sans monitors, there's
just no reasonable way to bring it back from the small-minded off-topic
chatroom and flamefest it has become.


We have a small minority of posters who are trollers. We have a small
minority of posters who can't resist getting hooked.


Small minority? Actually, it's the *majority* of those still posting to
this NG. I recently polled a sampling of NG regulars, contributors to
other boating NGs, and past rec.boats contributors. The response was
revealing; no current rec.boats posters were in favor of moderating the
flame, almost all past contributors and contributors to other boating
groups favored moderation. When in Rome... And a good Skipper has a
realistic eye to the weather. This and alt.sailing.asa *are* the NGs for
boating trollers. Krause made that happen.

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Skipper


So Harry controls your behavior?
What does that say about you?

Don White wrote:

Small minority? Actually, it's the *majority* of those still posting to
this NG. I recently polled a sampling of NG regulars, contributors to
other boating NGs, and past rec.boats contributors. The response was
revealing; no current rec.boats posters were in favor of moderating the
flame, almost all past contributors and contributors to other boating
groups favored moderation. When in Rome... And a good Skipper has a
realistic eye to the weather. This and alt.sailing.asa *are* the NGs for
boating trollers. Krause made that happen.

So Harry controls your behavior?
What does that say about you?

That Skipper recognizes a dedicated sycophant when he sees one.

--
Skipper

Skipper wrote:
Don White wrote:


Small minority? Actually, it's the *majority* of those still posting to
this NG. I recently polled a sampling of NG regulars, contributors to
other boating NGs, and past rec.boats contributors. The response was
revealing; no current rec.boats posters were in favor of moderating the
flame, almost all past contributors and contributors to other boating
groups favored moderation. When in Rome... And a good Skipper has a
realistic eye to the weather. This and alt.sailing.asa *are* the NGs for
boating trollers. Krause made that happen.


So Harry controls your behavior?
What does that say about you?


That Skipper recognizes a dedicated sycophant when he sees one.

--
Skipper

Let Skipper speak for himself!

On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 16:57:19 -0600, Skipper wrote:

JohnH wrote:

Skipper wrote:

It just won't work here, John...for many reasons. The only hope for
alt.sailing.asa and this NG is democratic monitoring. Monitors who allow
off-topic, differing views and lively discussions, but keep it within
bounds. I think we all know when it goes to far. Sans monitors, there's
just no reasonable way to bring it back from the small-minded off-topic
chatroom and flamefest it has become.

We have a small minority of posters who are trollers. We have a small
minority of posters who can't resist getting hooked.

Small minority? Actually, it's the *majority* of those still posting to
this NG. I recently polled a sampling of NG regulars, contributors to
other boating NGs, and past rec.boats contributors. The response was
revealing; no current rec.boats posters were in favor of moderating the
flame, almost all past contributors and contributors to other boating
groups favored moderation. When in Rome... And a good Skipper has a
realistic eye to the weather. This and alt.sailing.asa *are* the NGs for
boating trollers. Krause made that happen.

You made your moderating post in rec.boats.cruising and got laughed out of
the group. Now you're saying 'almost all...contributors...were in favor..."
That's garbage.

There are four or five regular trollers here. I would consider you one of
them. They are certainly not the 'majority'. Most of the trollers are also
the 'hookees', and just keep the crap flowing.
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'Til next time,

John H

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JohnH wrote:

You made your moderating (of rec.boats) post in rec.boats.cruising and got laughed out of
the group.

I'll not be posting the emails of support I received from that group to
protect their privacy. Can you point us to a couple posts *from* the
cruising group that back up your claim?

There are four or five regular trollers here. I would consider you one of
them.

Would you care to point us toward a post of yours that would not be
defined as mindless effluent?

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Skipper

On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 17:10:13 -0600, Skipper wrote:

I'll not be posting the emails of support I received from that group to
protect their privacy. Can you point us to a couple posts *from* the
cruising group that back up your claim?

Perhaps you could summarize the number for us?

I for one vote no. If for no other reason, moderation slows the time
of posting to a crawl. And then every once in a while the moderator
goes missing for some reason, perhaps to actually go boating, and
posting stops altogether until they get back online.

No thanks, reasonable adults should be able to exert a little self
control and peer pressure when needed. And there's always the KF for
the other situations.

My biggest gripe are those who feel obligated to respond to every
troll, no matter how ridiculous, yours included.