On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 17:05:54 +0000, Ken Duffey wrote:

Same question about exceptions goes to the USS 'City of Corpus Christi'
Los Angeles class SSN ?? What is unusual about that name ??

As far as I know, no other US vessel named after a city is named
"City of...".

When the submarine was launched in 1981, some religious and
antinuclear protest groups were upset that the Navy planned
to name a nuclear-powered sub that would carry tactical nuclear
weapons "Corpus Christi", Latin for "Body of Christ."

The name was eventually changed to "City of Corpus Christi"
to make it clear that SSN-705 was named after the city in
Texas, and to avoid implying to the world that God was on
our side of the Cold War, not the side of our Godless Commie
******* adversaries.

I'm not sure if the name was changed before or after SSN-705
commissioned in January 1983. The Naval Vessel Register shows
the name as "USS City of Corpus Christi (SSN 705) (ex-Corpus
Christi)" [1].


ljd

[1] http://www.nvr.navy.mil/nvrships/details/SSN705.htm

"Jeff" wrote in message
...

"
OK - here's a quiz question for you......

Which Leander Class Frigate was NOT named after a Classical Greek hero
....
?? - the exception to the rule....


Cleopatra.... I guess they ran out of popular Greek heroes

Cleopatra was a Greek.

She was the last of the Helenistic dynasty known as the Ptolemaics and was
descended from Alexander's general called, obviously enough Ptolemy..

She just happened to rule Egypt

--
William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

RCE wrote:
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Daring launch good news for Clyde

By Hayley Millar
BBC Scotland business correspondent

HMS Daring is the biggest warship ever to launch at the Scotstoun shipyard
in
Glasgow.

[snip]

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4666906.stm

Published: 2006/02/01 16:04:40 GMT




Is it a custom in the UK for all ships in a particular class to have names
that start with the same letter as the class of ship? Seems to be.

"D" class:

Daring
Dauntless
Diamond
Dragon
Defender
Duncan

"Dauntless" and "Defender" are proud old names to live up to, each
having been borne by a number of British warships over the centuries, I
think; perhaps some of the others as well. "Defiant" is another name
that belongs in that list; so I imagine there must be a RN vessel by
that name currently or recently in commission.

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Cleopatra.... I guess they ran out of popular Greek heroes

Cleopatra was a Greek.

She was the last of the Helenistic dynasty known as the Ptolemaics and was
descended from Alexander's general called, obviously enough Ptolemy..

She just happened to rule Egypt


That's on a par with saying that Gt, Britain is ruled by a German,
Cleopatra was definitely fully assimilated as an Egyptian, perhaps the
dynasty did have Greek (Macedonian) roots 300 years previously but even the
early Ptolemaics made Egyptian marriages.

Regards
Jeff

On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 09:14:45 -0000, "Jeff" wrote:

Cleopatra.... I guess they ran out of popular Greek heroes

Cleopatra was a Greek.

She was the last of the Helenistic dynasty known as the Ptolemaics and was
descended from Alexander's general called, obviously enough Ptolemy..

She just happened to rule Egypt


That's on a par with saying that Gt, Britain is ruled by a German,
Cleopatra was definitely fully assimilated as an Egyptian, perhaps the
dynasty did have Greek (Macedonian) roots 300 years previously but even the
early Ptolemaics made Egyptian marriages.

Well, not only a Greek but an incestuous dynasty. A well recorded one
also. Your Egyptian chappies/lassies would be who, exactly?

Cheers,
dba

"Jeff" wrote in message
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Cleopatra.... I guess they ran out of popular Greek heroes

Cleopatra was a Greek.

She was the last of the Helenistic dynasty known as the Ptolemaics and
was
descended from Alexander's general called, obviously enough Ptolemy..

She just happened to rule Egypt


That's on a par with saying that Gt, Britain is ruled by a German,

Well we are.

Their style is even German. All uniforms crusted with dodgy medals for the
men and huge tasteless ball gowns for the women. The palace looks like
bloody Ruritainia on formal occasions.

Cleopatra was definitely fully assimilated as an Egyptian, perhaps the
dynasty did have Greek (Macedonian) roots 300 years previously but even
the
early Ptolemaics made Egyptian marriages.

So?

Chances are that the person who picked the name had an expensive classical
education and calling the ship HMS Cleopatra was a way of showing off.

You know:

'Cleopatra, she wasn't a Greek, all the other ships are named after
Greeks'.

'Well actually old chap...'

--
William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

"William Black" wrote in message
...

"Jeff" wrote in message
...
Cleopatra.... I guess they ran out of popular Greek heroes

Cleopatra was a Greek.

She was the last of the Helenistic dynasty known as the Ptolemaics and
was
descended from Alexander's general called, obviously enough Ptolemy..

She just happened to rule Egypt


That's on a par with saying that Gt, Britain is ruled by a German,

Well we are.

Their style is even German. All uniforms crusted with dodgy medals for
the
men and huge tasteless ball gowns for the women. The palace looks like
bloody Ruritainia on formal occasions.

Cleopatra was definitely fully assimilated as an Egyptian, perhaps the
dynasty did have Greek (Macedonian) roots 300 years previously but even
the
early Ptolemaics made Egyptian marriages.

So?

Chances are that the person who picked the name had an expensive classical
education and calling the ship HMS Cleopatra was a way of showing off.

You know:

'Cleopatra, she wasn't a Greek, all the other ships are named after
Greeks'.

'Well actually old chap...'

--
William Black

The other ships were named after mythological Greek heroes. Cleopatra
wasn't a myth.
*That* is the exception.

RCE

Jeff wrote:
Is it a custom in the UK for all ships in a particular class to have names
that start with the same letter as the class of ship? Seems to be.



Well yes and no, in the past some Classes have all started with the same
letter, especially submarines, but it is more common to have a 'theme' for
the names:

There was once a HMS Cockchafer... would love to know what the rest of
the class we called....

In article .com,
David McArthur wrote:

Jeff wrote:
Is it a custom in the UK for all ships in a particular class to have names
that start with the same letter as the class of ship? Seems to be.



Well yes and no, in the past some Classes have all started with the same
letter, especially submarines, but it is more common to have a 'theme' for
the names:

There was once a HMS Cockchafer... would love to know what the rest of
the class we called....

APHIS (1915), BEE (1916), both by Aisa Co.

CICALA (1915), COCKCHAFER (1915), CRICKET (1915), GLOWWORM (1916), all by Barclay
Curle.

GNAT (1915), LADYBIRD (1915), both by Lobnitz.

MANTIS (1915), MOTH (1915) both by Sunderland S.B. Co.

SCARAB (1915), TARANTULA (1915), both by Wood, Skinner and Co.

"Insect" class, unsurprisingly. There was also a "Fly" class of rather smaller
gunboats.

Cockchafer ended her life as a WRNS accomodation ship. This led to comments.

--
Andy Breen ~ Not speaking on behalf of the University of Wales, Aberystwyth

"Who dies with the most toys wins" (Gary Barnes)

There was once a HMS Cockchafer... would love to know what the rest of
the class we called....


Insect Class:

Aphis, Bee, Cicada, Cockchafer, Cricket, Glower, Gnat, Ladybird, Mantis,
Moth, Scarab and Tarantula

Regards
Jeff