" Insect Class:

Aphis, Bee, Cicada, Cockchafer, Cricket, Glower, Gnat, Ladybird, Mantis,
Moth, Scarab and Tarantula

Regards
Jeff

Ooops!! that should be Gloworm not Glower

Jeff

On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:33:23 +0000, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


cleopatra was greek by descent.

alexander - 304 bc
ptolemy ii - 287 bc
ptolemy iii - 246 bc
ptolemy iv - 221 bc
ptolemy v - 205 bc
ptolemy x - 107 bc
ptolemy xii - 80 bc
cleopatra - 51 bc

plus, and here is where i can go with the best of them, there was the
famous naval battle of actium between the forcces of octavian and
cleopatra.

now, ask me how i know about that last one.

You fought at Actium in a past life? Surely, it wasn't in this life,
Methuselah. ;-)


so naming a ship cleopatra as part of classical greek personages is
logical with the added bonus of being associated with one of the more
famous naval battles of ancient history.

so there.

neener, neener, neener....

On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 12:56:42 +0000, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


if i were the past life type, i suspect that i would have been a famous
pirate or even a nelson type admiral. or even earlier, a ships wright or
even a trirene captain.

Something that has amused me, people who believe in past lives were always
someone famous. How come no one was a galley slave? ;-)


the real reason is that my minor in college was history and in particular
naval history. over the years, ive built models of battles and just have
an interest in this stuff.

It was an interesting time. Although, unfortunately, it's been awhile
since I've studied any of it. Naval history? The Mediterranean was chock
full of sea battles. For such a small area, they sure were a feisty lot.

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:24:11 -0000, "Jeff" wrote:


" Insect Class:

Aphis, Bee, Cicada, Cockchafer, Cricket, Glower, Gnat, Ladybird, Mantis,
Moth, Scarab and Tarantula

Regards
Jeff

Ooops!! that should be Gloworm not Glower

nor would i want to go to war on a gun boat named gloworm.

Maybe not but the DD HMS Glowworm was sunk after one of the most
gallant actions ever fought. While separated from the rest of her
flotilla of Norway she spotted a German destroyer and fired on her.

The German ship turned and ran for a fog bank, Glowworm followed
and as she emerged found herself in the middle of a German taskforce
consisting of the heavy cruiser Hipper and several destroyers. Although
quickly badly damaged by 8" and 5" shells she turned towards Hipper
and rammed the beast. Glowworm sank with all but 30 of her crew being
lost but sent put Hipper limping for port with gash 130ft long in her side
and put her out of action for the rest of the Norwegian campaign.

Keith



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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

nor would i want to go to war on a gun boat named gloworm.


Nor would I want HMS PANSY on my cap tally....

(Flower Class, launched 1940 (Harland & Wolff) --
subsequently renamed.)

Cheers
CJ Adams
Arte et Marte

On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:21:42 -0000, "Jeff" wrote:


There was once a HMS Cockchafer... would love to know what the rest of
the class we called....


Insect Class:

Aphis, Bee, Cicada, Cockchafer, Cricket, Glower, Gnat, Ladybird, Mantis,
Moth, Scarab and Tarantula

Do they really think a Tarantula is an insect? Do you?

Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA
We are the CroMagnon of the future

" Maybe not but the DD HMS Glowworm was sunk after one of the most
gallant actions ever fought. While separated from the rest of her
flotilla of Norway she spotted a German destroyer and fired on her.

The German ship turned and ran for a fog bank, Glowworm followed
and as she emerged found herself in the middle of a German taskforce
consisting of the heavy cruiser Hipper and several destroyers. Although
quickly badly damaged by 8" and 5" shells she turned towards Hipper
and rammed the beast. Glowworm sank with all but 30 of her crew being
lost but sent put Hipper limping for port with gash 130ft long in her side
and put her out of action for the rest of the Norwegian campaign.


Not the same class Glowworm as the gunboat, (G class Destroyer) but an
amazingly heroic action nevertheless.

Regards
Jeff

RCE wrote:
"William Black" wrote in message
...

"Jeff" wrote in message
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Cleopatra.... I guess they ran out of popular Greek heroes

Cleopatra was a Greek.

She was the last of the Helenistic dynasty known as the Ptolemaics and

was

descended from Alexander's general called, obviously enough Ptolemy..

She just happened to rule Egypt


That's on a par with saying that Gt, Britain is ruled by a German,

Well we are.

Their style is even German. All uniforms crusted with dodgy medals for
the
men and huge tasteless ball gowns for the women. The palace looks like
bloody Ruritainia on formal occasions.


Cleopatra was definitely fully assimilated as an Egyptian, perhaps the
dynasty did have Greek (Macedonian) roots 300 years previously but even

the

early Ptolemaics made Egyptian marriages.

So?

Chances are that the person who picked the name had an expensive classical
education and calling the ship HMS Cleopatra was a way of showing off.

You know:

'Cleopatra, she wasn't a Greek, all the other ships are named after
Greeks'.

'Well actually old chap...'

--
William Black


The other ships were named after mythological Greek heroes. Cleopatra
wasn't a myth.
*That* is the exception.

RCE



She was a myth - she never married...!!! g

If she had, she would have been a mythith.

I'll get my coat.............

Ken

Ken Duffey wrote:

:She was a myth - she never married...!!! g
:
:If she had, she would have been a mythith.
:
:I'll get my coat.............

But she did sleep around a lot.

Thith made her a hit rather than a myth, at leatht with the Romanth.

[Uh, my coat over there someplace, while you're looking?]

On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:21:42 -0000, "Jeff" wrote:


There was once a HMS Cockchafer... would love to know what the rest of
the class we called....


Insect Class:

Aphis, Bee, Cicada, Cockchafer, Cricket, Glower, Gnat, Ladybird, Mantis,
Moth, Scarab and Tarantula

But a tarantula is not an insect....

Cheers,
dba