I don't know where you are on the ICW but in the Wilmington NC area
there is significant shoaling in some parts of the waterway. A sailboat
because of their draft may not have the depth to be able move to the
side of the channel to allow a stinkpot to pass

RCE wrote:
"Bryan" wrote in message
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The other thread, about the new Gatlin Gun, motivates this question.

Mixed use lake: skiing/wakeboarding/tubing, swimming, fishing, cruising,
and shoreline camping.

Some things are obvious: no wake in the no wake zones; stay clear of
downed skiers/boarders/swimmers; ski boats don't need to stay close to
shoreline and shoreline campers with anchored boats

How far away is far enough, when cruising at WOT, or trying to enjoy some
speed , to get from one end of a lake to the other, and you're the only
fishing boat (or two) bobbing about.

I like to go fast from one end of the lake to the other. The fishermen
seem to prefer floating about where the lake narrows. I don't want to
ruin their day, but I also don't want to ruin my fun either. How far is
far enough away that you don't feel like I'm being inconsiderate when I
cruise by with speed on my mind?

I'm pretty sure that I'm overcompensating by the very fact that I worry
about how my actions effect others and try to practice the golden rule. I
just never bobbed about on a lake that allowed fishing and boating faster
than a no wake speed so I'm lacking in perspective.




I consider myself a very courteous boater except when traveling the ICW and
trying to properly pass a blow-boater who, after 10 minutes, continues to
ignore your radio calls and horn signals and continues to putt-putt down the
middle of the channel. Then, I wake the hell out of him.

RCE

"keith_nuttle" wrote in message
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I don't know where you are on the ICW but in the Wilmington NC area there
is significant shoaling in some parts of the waterway. A sailboat because
of their draft may not have the depth to be able move to the side of the
channel to allow a stinkpot to pass



Good point and well taken. But not the case in the cited instance.

RCE

"Bryan" wrote in message
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The other thread, about the new Gatlin Gun, motivates this question.

Mixed use lake: skiing/wakeboarding/tubing, swimming, fishing, cruising,
and shoreline camping.

Some things are obvious: no wake in the no wake zones; stay clear of
downed skiers/boarders/swimmers; ski boats don't need to stay close to
shoreline and shoreline campers with anchored boats

How far away is far enough, when cruising at WOT, or trying to enjoy some
speed , to get from one end of a lake to the other, and you're the only
fishing boat (or two) bobbing about.

I like to go fast from one end of the lake to the other. The fishermen
seem to prefer floating about where the lake narrows. I don't want to
ruin their day, but I also don't want to ruin my fun either. How far is
far enough away that you don't feel like I'm being inconsiderate when I
cruise by with speed on my mind?

I'm pretty sure that I'm overcompensating by the very fact that I worry
about how my actions effect others and try to practice the golden rule. I
just never bobbed about on a lake that allowed fishing and boating faster
than a no wake speed so I'm lacking in perspective.



I say go fast! If their boats are crappy and over turn because of a wake,
then they need new bigger boats. New boats are good for the economy - so you
are doing the right thing

"Dan J.S." wrote in message
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"Bryan" wrote in message
. net...
The other thread, about the new Gatlin Gun, motivates this question.

Mixed use lake: skiing/wakeboarding/tubing, swimming, fishing, cruising,
and shoreline camping.

Some things are obvious: no wake in the no wake zones; stay clear of
downed skiers/boarders/swimmers; ski boats don't need to stay close to
shoreline and shoreline campers with anchored boats

How far away is far enough, when cruising at WOT, or trying to enjoy some
speed , to get from one end of a lake to the other, and you're the only
fishing boat (or two) bobbing about.

I like to go fast from one end of the lake to the other. The fishermen
seem to prefer floating about where the lake narrows. I don't want to
ruin their day, but I also don't want to ruin my fun either. How far is
far enough away that you don't feel like I'm being inconsiderate when I
cruise by with speed on my mind?

I'm pretty sure that I'm overcompensating by the very fact that I worry
about how my actions effect others and try to practice the golden rule.
I just never bobbed about on a lake that allowed fishing and boating
faster than a no wake speed so I'm lacking in perspective [and
experience].



I say go fast! If their boats are crappy and over turn because of a wake,
then they need new bigger boats. New boats are good for the economy - so
you are doing the right thing




I love how you (plural) have interpreted my question. There's not even a
remote possibility of causing them enough trouble that they would even think
of holding on, let alone getting swamped or overturned. Geez, the drama in
this group! I guess I'm just going to have to motor up to one of these
fishermen and ask their opinion. I was more concerned with not scaring
their fish away and with not making them feel like I'm intruding. I'm
pretty sure the answer to my question is to follow the advice to make some
runs followed with U Turns to get a better feel for my wake effects on a
relatively quiet lake.

On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 18:08:32 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote:

How far away is far enough, when cruising at WOT, or trying to enjoy some
speed , to get from one end of a lake to the other, and you're the only
fishing boat (or two) bobbing about.

A lot depends on the size of your wake on full plane. Some fast,
relatively light boats leave almost no wake at all at full speed. On
the other hand if you've got a 10,000 lb express cruiser you're going
to need to slow down almost to idle speed to pass a small open boat
safely if they are close by.

As somebody else mentioned, do a few tests crossing your own wake and
try to imagine yourself in a 14 ft rowboat. That said, a couple of
hundred yards is usually more than enough unless you really do have a
killer wake.

I try to be especially vigilant for people standing up in boats,
canoes, and boats with children hanging off the bow.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 18:08:32 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote:

How far away is far enough, when cruising at WOT, or trying to enjoy some
speed , to get from one end of a lake to the other, and you're the only
fishing boat (or two) bobbing about.

A lot depends on the size of your wake on full plane. Some fast,
relatively light boats leave almost no wake at all at full speed. On
the other hand if you've got a 10,000 lb express cruiser you're going
to need to slow down almost to idle speed to pass a small open boat
safely if they are close by.

As somebody else mentioned, do a few tests crossing your own wake and
try to imagine yourself in a 14 ft rowboat. That said, a couple of
hundred yards is usually more than enough unless you really do have a
killer wake.

I try to be especially vigilant for people standing up in boats,
canoes, and boats with children hanging off the bow.


Thanks, Wayne. One of my boats problems, according to my son, is that it
doesn't create enough wake for high level wakeboarding. And when I'm up on
a plane, my boat seems to float across the water. So, with my concern for
others, I'm probably doing just fine. I will try out the wake experiment
though; sounds like a reason to find water!

Bryan wrote:
The other thread, about the new Gatlin Gun, motivates this question.

Mixed use lake: skiing/wakeboarding/tubing, swimming, fishing, cruising, and
shoreline camping.

Some things are obvious: no wake in the no wake zones; stay clear of downed
skiers/boarders/swimmers; ski boats don't need to stay close to shoreline
and shoreline campers with anchored boats

How far away is far enough, when cruising at WOT, or trying to enjoy some
speed , to get from one end of a lake to the other, and you're the only
fishing boat (or two) bobbing about.

I like to go fast from one end of the lake to the other. The fishermen seem
to prefer floating about where the lake narrows. I don't want to ruin their
day, but I also don't want to ruin my fun either. How far is far enough
away that you don't feel like I'm being inconsiderate when I cruise by with
speed on my mind?


Depends on the wake you leave. It's likely that if your boat
is relatively small & fast, it doesn't really make a very
big wake at WOT, but makes it's biggest wake when getting up
on plane.


I'm pretty sure that I'm overcompensating by the very fact that I worry
about how my actions effect others and try to practice the golden rule.

Not at all. And it's more than just "the golden rule"
although that's an excellent principle.

The issue here is that your wake is deliberately caused by
you, and it has the potential to injure people and damage
property. You are as responsible for your wake as a person
who enjoys target shooting is responsible for where his
bullets end up. That is both a moral & legal responsibility.


... I
just never bobbed about on a lake that allowed fishing and boating faster
than a no wake speed so I'm lacking in perspective.


Most motorboaters have no clue about their wake since it's
effects are so far behind them. I didn't realize this myself
until we bought a large motorboat and I spent some time &
effort figuring out 'no-wake' and 'low-wake' RPMs.

One way to observe your own wake is to have somebody else
drive the boat while you can fully watch astern. Pass by a
floating dock at varying distances & varying speeds, and see
how high & steep the waves are. A floating dock is good
because it's heavy enough to not bob madly & distort the
apparent violence of your wake, but will show how high the
waves or reflect them back into the body of water like a
solid bulkhead will.

Very excellent thread BTW. Thanks!

Fair Skies
Doug King

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Bryan wrote:
The other thread, about the new Gatlin Gun, motivates this question.

Mixed use lake: skiing/wakeboarding/tubing, swimming, fishing, cruising,
and shoreline camping.

Some things are obvious: no wake in the no wake zones; stay clear of
downed skiers/boarders/swimmers; ski boats don't need to stay close to
shoreline and shoreline campers with anchored boats

How far away is far enough, when cruising at WOT, or trying to enjoy some
speed , to get from one end of a lake to the other, and you're the only
fishing boat (or two) bobbing about.

I like to go fast from one end of the lake to the other. The fishermen
seem to prefer floating about where the lake narrows. I don't want to
ruin their day, but I also don't want to ruin my fun either. How far is
far enough away that you don't feel like I'm being inconsiderate when I
cruise by with speed on my mind?


Depends on the wake you leave. It's likely that if your boat is relatively
small & fast, it doesn't really make a very big wake at WOT, but makes
it's biggest wake when getting up on plane.


I'm pretty sure that I'm overcompensating by the very fact that I worry
about how my actions effect others and try to practice the golden rule.

Not at all. And it's more than just "the golden rule" although that's an
excellent principle.

The issue here is that your wake is deliberately caused by you, and it has
the potential to injure people and damage property. You are as responsible
for your wake as a person who enjoys target shooting is responsible for
where his bullets end up. That is both a moral & legal responsibility.


... I just never bobbed about on a lake that allowed fishing and
boating faster than a no wake speed so I'm lacking in perspective.


Most motorboaters have no clue about their wake since it's effects are so
far behind them. I didn't realize this myself until we bought a large
motorboat and I spent some time & effort figuring out 'no-wake' and
'low-wake' RPMs.

One way to observe your own wake is to have somebody else drive the boat
while you can fully watch astern. Pass by a floating dock at varying
distances & varying speeds, and see how high & steep the waves are. A
floating dock is good because it's heavy enough to not bob madly & distort
the apparent violence of your wake, but will show how high the waves or
reflect them back into the body of water like a solid bulkhead will.

Very excellent thread BTW. Thanks!

Fair Skies
Doug King


Your floating dock idea adds some usefulness to my intended wake experiment.
Thanks for the idea.