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The other thread, about the new Gatlin Gun, motivates this question.

Mixed use lake: skiing/wakeboarding/tubing, swimming, fishing, cruising, and
shoreline camping.

Some things are obvious: no wake in the no wake zones; stay clear of downed
skiers/boarders/swimmers; ski boats don't need to stay close to shoreline
and shoreline campers with anchored boats

How far away is far enough, when cruising at WOT, or trying to enjoy some
speed , to get from one end of a lake to the other, and you're the only
fishing boat (or two) bobbing about.

I like to go fast from one end of the lake to the other. The fishermen seem
to prefer floating about where the lake narrows. I don't want to ruin their
day, but I also don't want to ruin my fun either. How far is far enough
away that you don't feel like I'm being inconsiderate when I cruise by with
speed on my mind?

I'm pretty sure that I'm overcompensating by the very fact that I worry
about how my actions effect others and try to practice the golden rule. I
just never bobbed about on a lake that allowed fishing and boating faster
than a no wake speed so I'm lacking in perspective.


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Doug Kanter
 
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"Bryan" wrote in message
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The other thread, about the new Gatlin Gun, motivates this question.

Mixed use lake: skiing/wakeboarding/tubing, swimming, fishing, cruising,
and shoreline camping.

Some things are obvious: no wake in the no wake zones; stay clear of
downed skiers/boarders/swimmers; ski boats don't need to stay close to
shoreline and shoreline campers with anchored boats

How far away is far enough, when cruising at WOT, or trying to enjoy some
speed , to get from one end of a lake to the other, and you're the only
fishing boat (or two) bobbing about.

I like to go fast from one end of the lake to the other. The fishermen
seem to prefer floating about where the lake narrows. I don't want to
ruin their day, but I also don't want to ruin my fun either.


If you swamp one of their boats, your fun could (and should) include
spending the rest of the day in handcuffs.




How far is far enough away that you don't feel like I'm being
inconsiderate when I cruise by with speed on my mind?


There's no way of knowing that except by being observant, and experimenting
when there are NOT other boats around. Go fast, then make a wide U-turn and
figure out where your wake begins to fade.


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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Bryan" wrote in message
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The other thread, about the new Gatlin Gun, motivates this question.

Mixed use lake: skiing/wakeboarding/tubing, swimming, fishing, cruising,
and shoreline camping.

Some things are obvious: no wake in the no wake zones; stay clear of
downed skiers/boarders/swimmers; ski boats don't need to stay close to
shoreline and shoreline campers with anchored boats

How far away is far enough, when cruising at WOT, or trying to enjoy some
speed , to get from one end of a lake to the other, and you're the only
fishing boat (or two) bobbing about.

I like to go fast from one end of the lake to the other. The fishermen
seem to prefer floating about where the lake narrows. I don't want to
ruin their day, but I also don't want to ruin my fun either.


If you swamp one of their boats, your fun could (and should) include
spending the rest of the day in handcuffs.


Uh, Doug, does the tone of my post come anywhere near suggesting that
possibility?


How far is far enough away that you don't feel like I'm being
inconsiderate when I cruise by with speed on my mind?


There's no way of knowing that except by being observant, and
experimenting when there are NOT other boats around. Go fast, then make a
wide U-turn and figure out where your wake begins to fade.


Great idea! That will be a fun experiment. It will really help me
understand the effects my boat has, Now if they will just fix the dock so I
can put the boat in the water.


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"Bryan" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Bryan" wrote in message
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The other thread, about the new Gatlin Gun, motivates this question.

Mixed use lake: skiing/wakeboarding/tubing, swimming, fishing, cruising,
and shoreline camping.

Some things are obvious: no wake in the no wake zones; stay clear of
downed skiers/boarders/swimmers; ski boats don't need to stay close to
shoreline and shoreline campers with anchored boats

How far away is far enough, when cruising at WOT, or trying to enjoy
some speed , to get from one end of a lake to the other, and you're the
only fishing boat (or two) bobbing about.

I like to go fast from one end of the lake to the other. The fishermen
seem to prefer floating about where the lake narrows. I don't want to
ruin their day, but I also don't want to ruin my fun either.


If you swamp one of their boats, your fun could (and should) include
spending the rest of the day in handcuffs.


Uh, Doug, does the tone of my post come anywhere near suggesting that
possibility?


Well, you said "but I also don't want to ruin my fun either.", which
suggests you have about a 50/50 chance of making the wrong choice.


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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Bryan" wrote in message
et...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Bryan" wrote in message
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The other thread, about the new Gatlin Gun, motivates this question.

Mixed use lake: skiing/wakeboarding/tubing, swimming, fishing,
cruising, and shoreline camping.

Some things are obvious: no wake in the no wake zones; stay clear of
downed skiers/boarders/swimmers; ski boats don't need to stay close to
shoreline and shoreline campers with anchored boats

How far away is far enough, when cruising at WOT, or trying to enjoy
some speed , to get from one end of a lake to the other, and you're the
only fishing boat (or two) bobbing about.

I like to go fast from one end of the lake to the other. The fishermen
seem to prefer floating about where the lake narrows. I don't want to
ruin their day, but I also don't want to ruin my fun either.

If you swamp one of their boats, your fun could (and should) include
spending the rest of the day in handcuffs.


Uh, Doug, does the tone of my post come anywhere near suggesting that
possibility?


Well, you said "but I also don't want to ruin my fun either.", which
suggests you have about a 50/50 chance of making the wrong choice.


What a cynic!




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Doug Kanter
 
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"Bryan" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Bryan" wrote in message
et...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Bryan" wrote in message
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The other thread, about the new Gatlin Gun, motivates this question.

Mixed use lake: skiing/wakeboarding/tubing, swimming, fishing,
cruising, and shoreline camping.

Some things are obvious: no wake in the no wake zones; stay clear of
downed skiers/boarders/swimmers; ski boats don't need to stay close to
shoreline and shoreline campers with anchored boats

How far away is far enough, when cruising at WOT, or trying to enjoy
some speed , to get from one end of a lake to the other, and you're
the only fishing boat (or two) bobbing about.

I like to go fast from one end of the lake to the other. The
fishermen seem to prefer floating about where the lake narrows. I
don't want to ruin their day, but I also don't want to ruin my fun
either.

If you swamp one of their boats, your fun could (and should) include
spending the rest of the day in handcuffs.

Uh, Doug, does the tone of my post come anywhere near suggesting that
possibility?


Well, you said "but I also don't want to ruin my fun either.", which
suggests you have about a 50/50 chance of making the wrong choice.


What a cynic!


Not really, Bryan. More like a very experienced observer of what really
happens on the water.


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"Bryan" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Bryan" wrote in message
et...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Bryan" wrote in message
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The other thread, about the new Gatlin Gun, motivates this question.

Mixed use lake: skiing/wakeboarding/tubing, swimming, fishing,
cruising, and shoreline camping.

Some things are obvious: no wake in the no wake zones; stay clear of
downed skiers/boarders/swimmers; ski boats don't need to stay close to
shoreline and shoreline campers with anchored boats

How far away is far enough, when cruising at WOT, or trying to enjoy
some speed , to get from one end of a lake to the other, and you're
the only fishing boat (or two) bobbing about.

I like to go fast from one end of the lake to the other. The
fishermen seem to prefer floating about where the lake narrows. I
don't want to ruin their day, but I also don't want to ruin my fun
either.

If you swamp one of their boats, your fun could (and should) include
spending the rest of the day in handcuffs.

Uh, Doug, does the tone of my post come anywhere near suggesting that
possibility?


Well, you said "but I also don't want to ruin my fun either.", which
suggests you have about a 50/50 chance of making the wrong choice.


What a cynic!


No. I'm a seasoned observer of what REALLY happens on the water. For some
reason, people do things in boats that they'd never dream of doing in cars.


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"Bryan" wrote in message
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The other thread, about the new Gatlin Gun, motivates this question.

Mixed use lake: skiing/wakeboarding/tubing, swimming, fishing, cruising,
and shoreline camping.

Some things are obvious: no wake in the no wake zones; stay clear of
downed skiers/boarders/swimmers; ski boats don't need to stay close to
shoreline and shoreline campers with anchored boats

How far away is far enough, when cruising at WOT, or trying to enjoy some
speed , to get from one end of a lake to the other, and you're the only
fishing boat (or two) bobbing about.

I like to go fast from one end of the lake to the other. The fishermen
seem to prefer floating about where the lake narrows. I don't want to
ruin their day, but I also don't want to ruin my fun either. How far is
far enough away that you don't feel like I'm being inconsiderate when I
cruise by with speed on my mind?

I'm pretty sure that I'm overcompensating by the very fact that I worry
about how my actions effect others and try to practice the golden rule. I
just never bobbed about on a lake that allowed fishing and boating faster
than a no wake speed so I'm lacking in perspective.



I consider myself a very courteous boater except when traveling the ICW and
trying to properly pass a blow-boater who, after 10 minutes, continues to
ignore your radio calls and horn signals and continues to putt-putt down the
middle of the channel. Then, I wake the hell out of him.

RCE


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On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 13:50:00 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

when traveling the ICW and
trying to properly pass a blow-boater who, after 10 minutes, continues to
ignore your radio calls and horn signals and continues to putt-putt down the
middle of the channel. Then, I wake the hell out of him.


Yep, what else to do?

And there are other guys who don't have the foggiest idea of what a
"slow pass" is all about or how it should be executed.

We find ourselves constantly waving motoryachts and sportfish by us
because they feel obligated to slow down. In reality we've got the
stabilizers on and would rather they'd go by quicker, and with a
flatter wake.

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when traveling the ICW and
trying to properly pass a blow-boater who, after 10 minutes, continues to
ignore your radio calls and horn signals and continues to putt-putt down the
middle of the channel. Then, I wake the hell out of him.



Wayne.B wrote:
Yep, what else to do?


Pull up closer and give him the horn signal again. And as
somebody else mentioned, he may not be sticking to the
middle of the channel out of hoggishness, it may be a
necessity. Still, it is a very stupid ICW sailor who won't
slow and let you pass at a good low-wake speed.


And there are other guys who don't have the foggiest idea of what a
"slow pass" is all about or how it should be executed.


Agreed. We get this daily from people who call up and
probably think they're being very gracious & curteous to
slow to max-wake speed as they pass us about 5' abeam. For
this I moved over and slowed down???


We find ourselves constantly waving motoryachts and sportfish by us
because they feel obligated to slow down. In reality we've got the
stabilizers on and would rather they'd go by quicker, and with a
flatter wake.


You wouldn't believe how hard some wakes hit a 10 ton 36'
trawler. We've had stuff hurled against the lockers so hard
it busted the latches. At one point, we had an oncoming boat
leave a wake that came solid over our bow rail.

OTOH most people become amazingly careful and curteous when
you aim a video camera at them. I sent some pictures to
property owners along the ICW of a boat that sent a wake
rolling up over their bulkheads & across their lawns,
literally leaving a wake of destruction. It would be
interesting to see what that guy got.

DSK



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