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RCE wrote:

These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning of
the
"Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible because of
the
disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE


You think?

The garage band down the block is tighter than the Stones were tonight.
How the H do you flub up "Satisfaction" after 40 years? You could see a
couple of the guys were really frustrated- I thought the bass player
was going to climb right up into the drummer's lap for a while there as
they struggled to get their licks together. Lot's of unhappy glances
exchanged every time somebody screwed something up. They were literally
"jamming" instead of performing. Very disappointing show.

My suggestion, fewer drugs and less booze before a performance- and
more rehearsals.


Yes sir...I don't know how the Stones justify their outrageous fees.
Have to admit, I've never seen them live...(my son wouldn't let me go
along with him & his buddies when they played the Maritimes last summer)
but age & lifestyle is really creeping up on these guys.
I like to hear them the way they sounded in the 60s.
Now I don't think they're a reasonable facsimile of a rock band.


I agree. I thought they stunk last night. Maybe that is because I
generally never cared for them.

My wife and I did get a kick seeing all the teenyboppers scream and jump
about over them......a bunch of 60 some year old drugged out has-beens who
are old enough to be their grandfathers.


I thought they sounded pretty bad as well, and the entire production seemed
pretty lame, compared to the last couple of years





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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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wrote:
RCE wrote:

These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning of
the
"Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible because
of the
disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE


You think?

The garage band down the block is tighter than the Stones were tonight.
How the H do you flub up "Satisfaction" after 40 years? You could see a
couple of the guys were really frustrated- I thought the bass player
was going to climb right up into the drummer's lap for a while there as
they struggled to get their licks together. Lot's of unhappy glances
exchanged every time somebody screwed something up. They were literally
"jamming" instead of performing. Very disappointing show.

My suggestion, fewer drugs and less booze before a performance- and
more rehearsals.


Yes sir...I don't know how the Stones justify their outrageous fees.
Have to admit, I've never seen them live...(my son wouldn't let me go
along with him & his buddies when they played the Maritimes last summer)
but age & lifestyle is really creeping up on these guys.
I like to hear them the way they sounded in the 60s.
Now I don't think they're a reasonable facsimile of a rock band.


I agree. I thought they stunk last night. Maybe that is because I
generally never cared for them.

My wife and I did get a kick seeing all the teenyboppers scream and jump
about over them......a bunch of 60 some year old drugged out has-beens
who are old enough to be their grandfathers.


I thought they sounded pretty bad as well, and the entire production
seemed pretty lame, compared to the last couple of years


I wonder, too, if part of the problem is the simple fact that it's a half
time show. No accurate way to do a sound check, since the presence of a
crowd totally alters the dynamics of any stadium. And, the performance is so
short that by the time the band and technicians warm up, it's over.


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Doug Kanter wrote:
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JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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wrote:
RCE wrote:

These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning
of
the
"Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible because
of
the
disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE


You think?

The garage band down the block is tighter than the Stones were
tonight.
How the H do you flub up "Satisfaction" after 40 years? You could see
a
couple of the guys were really frustrated- I thought the bass player
was going to climb right up into the drummer's lap for a while there
as
they struggled to get their licks together. Lot's of unhappy glances
exchanged every time somebody screwed something up. They were
literally
"jamming" instead of performing. Very disappointing show.

My suggestion, fewer drugs and less booze before a performance- and
more rehearsals.


Yes sir...I don't know how the Stones justify their outrageous fees.
Have to admit, I've never seen them live...(my son wouldn't let me go
along with him & his buddies when they played the Maritimes last
summer)
but age & lifestyle is really creeping up on these guys.
I like to hear them the way they sounded in the 60s.
Now I don't think they're a reasonable facsimile of a rock band.

I agree. I thought they stunk last night. Maybe that is because I
generally never cared for them.


That's an intriguing comment only because I grew up listening to the
Stones and playing a lot of their music, and have always liked them a
lot. From two somewhat opposite perspectives, we managed to reach a
common conclusion.


Aside from purported drug use (or, in Richard's case, obvious), what do you
suggest they do? Stop doing what they enjoy?



Not at all. They should indeed continue to do what they enjoy. However,
they need to try to uphold some reasonable standards of professionalism
if they intend to continue doing it for money. Good thing they're the
"Rolling Stones", if it had been Joe Schwartz and the East Overshirt
Wannabees playing at the same level of proficiency (and it well could
have), ABC would have cut to a commercial after the second or third
major screw up.

There may be other explanations or excuses, but I think I say a poor
showing from a bunch of guys who thought they'd earn their million
bucks a minute (or whatever) simply by showing up and *being* the
Rolling Stones rather than by putting together a musically dynamic
three-song set. Maybe there comes a point in time when instead of
"rocking on!", it is just more dignified to rock off.

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"P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager DOTnet wrote in message
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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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wrote:
RCE wrote:

These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning
of the
"Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible because
of the
disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE


You think?

The garage band down the block is tighter than the Stones were
tonight.
How the H do you flub up "Satisfaction" after 40 years? You could see
a
couple of the guys were really frustrated- I thought the bass player
was going to climb right up into the drummer's lap for a while there
as
they struggled to get their licks together. Lot's of unhappy glances
exchanged every time somebody screwed something up. They were
literally
"jamming" instead of performing. Very disappointing show.

My suggestion, fewer drugs and less booze before a performance- and
more rehearsals.


Yes sir...I don't know how the Stones justify their outrageous fees.
Have to admit, I've never seen them live...(my son wouldn't let me go
along with him & his buddies when they played the Maritimes last
summer)
but age & lifestyle is really creeping up on these guys.
I like to hear them the way they sounded in the 60s.
Now I don't think they're a reasonable facsimile of a rock band.

I agree. I thought they stunk last night. Maybe that is because I
generally never cared for them.

My wife and I did get a kick seeing all the teenyboppers scream and jump
about over them......a bunch of 60 some year old drugged out has-beens
who are old enough to be their grandfathers.


I thought they sounded pretty bad as well, and the entire production
seemed pretty lame, compared to the last couple of years


I wonder, too, if part of the problem is the simple fact that it's a half
time show. No accurate way to do a sound check, since the presence of a
crowd totally alters the dynamics of any stadium. And, the performance is
so short that by the time the band and technicians warm up, it's over.


That hasn't seemed to be a problem in the last few years.





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"P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager DOTnet wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager DOTnet wrote in message
...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote:
RCE wrote:

These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning
of the
"Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible because
of the
disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE


You think?

The garage band down the block is tighter than the Stones were
tonight.
How the H do you flub up "Satisfaction" after 40 years? You could see
a
couple of the guys were really frustrated- I thought the bass player
was going to climb right up into the drummer's lap for a while there
as
they struggled to get their licks together. Lot's of unhappy glances
exchanged every time somebody screwed something up. They were
literally
"jamming" instead of performing. Very disappointing show.

My suggestion, fewer drugs and less booze before a performance- and
more rehearsals.


Yes sir...I don't know how the Stones justify their outrageous fees.
Have to admit, I've never seen them live...(my son wouldn't let me go
along with him & his buddies when they played the Maritimes last
summer)
but age & lifestyle is really creeping up on these guys.
I like to hear them the way they sounded in the 60s.
Now I don't think they're a reasonable facsimile of a rock band.

I agree. I thought they stunk last night. Maybe that is because I
generally never cared for them.

My wife and I did get a kick seeing all the teenyboppers scream and
jump about over them......a bunch of 60 some year old drugged out
has-beens who are old enough to be their grandfathers.

I thought they sounded pretty bad as well, and the entire production
seemed pretty lame, compared to the last couple of years


I wonder, too, if part of the problem is the simple fact that it's a half
time show. No accurate way to do a sound check, since the presence of a
crowd totally alters the dynamics of any stadium. And, the performance is
so short that by the time the band and technicians warm up, it's over.


That hasn't seemed to be a problem in the last few years.


With which artists?




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Mys Terry wrote:
On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 12:34:26 -0500, "P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager DOTnet wrote in message
...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote:
RCE wrote:

These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning
of the
"Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible because
of the
disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE


You think?

The garage band down the block is tighter than the Stones were
tonight.
How the H do you flub up "Satisfaction" after 40 years? You could see
a
couple of the guys were really frustrated- I thought the bass player
was going to climb right up into the drummer's lap for a while there
as
they struggled to get their licks together. Lot's of unhappy glances
exchanged every time somebody screwed something up. They were
literally
"jamming" instead of performing. Very disappointing show.

My suggestion, fewer drugs and less booze before a performance- and
more rehearsals.


Yes sir...I don't know how the Stones justify their outrageous fees.
Have to admit, I've never seen them live...(my son wouldn't let me go
along with him & his buddies when they played the Maritimes last
summer)
but age & lifestyle is really creeping up on these guys.
I like to hear them the way they sounded in the 60s.
Now I don't think they're a reasonable facsimile of a rock band.

I agree. I thought they stunk last night. Maybe that is because I
generally never cared for them.

My wife and I did get a kick seeing all the teenyboppers scream and jump
about over them......a bunch of 60 some year old drugged out has-beens
who are old enough to be their grandfathers.

I thought they sounded pretty bad as well, and the entire production
seemed pretty lame, compared to the last couple of years

I wonder, too, if part of the problem is the simple fact that it's a half
time show. No accurate way to do a sound check, since the presence of a
crowd totally alters the dynamics of any stadium. And, the performance is
so short that by the time the band and technicians warm up, it's over.


That hasn't seemed to be a problem in the last few years.


The Rolling Stones were not lip syncing. They were actually performing
live. BIG difference.


Bingo. The last few times I attended a Stones concert, it was entirely
canned. Mick had to be very careful where he walked, how he gestured,
etc, as there were incidents where what you saw on stage from a close
seat and what was being shown on the monster video screens was not
completely in sync. The band could have phoned in sick, and most of the
show would have gone on anyway.

No excuse for screwing up "Start Me Up" or "Satisfaction" when you're
the Rolling Stones.

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"Mys Terry" wrote in message
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On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 12:34:26 -0500, "P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager DOTnet wrote in message
...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote:
RCE wrote:

These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning
of the
"Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible
because
of the
disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE


You think?

The garage band down the block is tighter than the Stones were
tonight.
How the H do you flub up "Satisfaction" after 40 years? You could
see
a
couple of the guys were really frustrated- I thought the bass player
was going to climb right up into the drummer's lap for a while there
as
they struggled to get their licks together. Lot's of unhappy glances
exchanged every time somebody screwed something up. They were
literally
"jamming" instead of performing. Very disappointing show.

My suggestion, fewer drugs and less booze before a performance- and
more rehearsals.


Yes sir...I don't know how the Stones justify their outrageous fees.
Have to admit, I've never seen them live...(my son wouldn't let me go
along with him & his buddies when they played the Maritimes last
summer)
but age & lifestyle is really creeping up on these guys.
I like to hear them the way they sounded in the 60s.
Now I don't think they're a reasonable facsimile of a rock band.

I agree. I thought they stunk last night. Maybe that is because I
generally never cared for them.

My wife and I did get a kick seeing all the teenyboppers scream and
jump
about over them......a bunch of 60 some year old drugged out has-beens
who are old enough to be their grandfathers.

I thought they sounded pretty bad as well, and the entire production
seemed pretty lame, compared to the last couple of years

I wonder, too, if part of the problem is the simple fact that it's a
half
time show. No accurate way to do a sound check, since the presence of a
crowd totally alters the dynamics of any stadium. And, the performance
is
so short that by the time the band and technicians warm up, it's over.


That hasn't seemed to be a problem in the last few years.


The Rolling Stones were not lip syncing. They were actually performing
live. BIG difference.



Time out. TIME OUT! Are you suggesting that when we only see Britney Spears
singing, but we hear 8 voices singing harmony, those other voices aren't
really coming out of her face at the performance? :-)


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JimH wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
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wrote:

RCE wrote:


These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning of
the
"Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible because of
the
disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE


You think?

The garage band down the block is tighter than the Stones were tonight.
How the H do you flub up "Satisfaction" after 40 years? You could see a
couple of the guys were really frustrated- I thought the bass player
was going to climb right up into the drummer's lap for a while there as
they struggled to get their licks together. Lot's of unhappy glances
exchanged every time somebody screwed something up. They were literally
"jamming" instead of performing. Very disappointing show.

My suggestion, fewer drugs and less booze before a performance- and
more rehearsals.


Yes sir...I don't know how the Stones justify their outrageous fees.
Have to admit, I've never seen them live...(my son wouldn't let me go
along with him & his buddies when they played the Maritimes last summer)
but age & lifestyle is really creeping up on these guys.
I like to hear them the way they sounded in the 60s.
Now I don't think they're a reasonable facsimile of a rock band.


I agree. I thought they stunk last night. Maybe that is because I
generally never cared for them.



That's an intriguing comment only because I grew up listening to the
Stones and playing a lot of their music, and have always liked them a
lot. From two somewhat opposite perspectives, we managed to reach a
common conclusion.


I was a fan too...and preferred some of their songs to what the Beatles
had out at the same time.
example... Satisfaction, Last Time
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Mys Terry wrote:
On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 12:34:26 -0500, "P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager DOTnet wrote in message
...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote:
RCE wrote:

These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the
beginning
of the
"Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible
because
of the
disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE


You think?

The garage band down the block is tighter than the Stones were
tonight.
How the H do you flub up "Satisfaction" after 40 years? You could
see
a
couple of the guys were really frustrated- I thought the bass
player
was going to climb right up into the drummer's lap for a while
there
as
they struggled to get their licks together. Lot's of unhappy
glances
exchanged every time somebody screwed something up. They were
literally
"jamming" instead of performing. Very disappointing show.

My suggestion, fewer drugs and less booze before a performance-
and
more rehearsals.


Yes sir...I don't know how the Stones justify their outrageous
fees.
Have to admit, I've never seen them live...(my son wouldn't let me
go
along with him & his buddies when they played the Maritimes last
summer)
but age & lifestyle is really creeping up on these guys.
I like to hear them the way they sounded in the 60s.
Now I don't think they're a reasonable facsimile of a rock band.

I agree. I thought they stunk last night. Maybe that is because I
generally never cared for them.

My wife and I did get a kick seeing all the teenyboppers scream and
jump
about over them......a bunch of 60 some year old drugged out
has-beens
who are old enough to be their grandfathers.

I thought they sounded pretty bad as well, and the entire production
seemed pretty lame, compared to the last couple of years

I wonder, too, if part of the problem is the simple fact that it's a
half
time show. No accurate way to do a sound check, since the presence of
a
crowd totally alters the dynamics of any stadium. And, the performance
is
so short that by the time the band and technicians warm up, it's over.

That hasn't seemed to be a problem in the last few years.


The Rolling Stones were not lip syncing. They were actually performing
live. BIG difference.


Bingo. The last few times I attended a Stones concert, it was entirely
canned. Mick had to be very careful where he walked, how he gestured,
etc, as there were incidents where what you saw on stage from a close
seat and what was being shown on the monster video screens was not
completely in sync. The band could have phoned in sick, and most of the
show would have gone on anyway.

No excuse for screwing up "Start Me Up" or "Satisfaction" when you're
the Rolling Stones.



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They...were...horrible.


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