On 8 Feb 2006 09:43:06 -0800, wrote:


Harry Krause wrote:
wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
wrote:
I just heard from a local company that they took orders for 12 of their
new 26-foot trailerable tugs at the recent Seattle Boat Show........and
that was without a finished boat on display!
(They had a hull and liner to show)

It was just about 25 years ago that a little company called Nordic Tug
introduced a 26-foot tug at the Seattle show. Nordic did a little
better, taking orders for some huge number of boats (that I will say
was in the 30's without going to the bother of checking my notes for
the exact figure).

Interesting to see how well this concept has endured, and how receptive
the public is to a small boat with some "appeal".

The new boat is built by a partnership formed between Ranger Tug
Company and C-Dory Marine. The Ranger Tug has been around for a while,
(built by the Livingston fammily) but has been essentially an open boat
with no superstructure aft of an enclosed pilothouse. The new boat
expands that original concept by extending the cabin well aft to create
a boat with enough cabin that people can get out of the rain or direct
sun.


At the risk of being tagged for SPAM, additional information on this
new boat is available at
www.c-ranger.com (no link, to pacify the anti spammers). Once on the
site, all the specs and a conceptual drawing can be viewed by clicking
on R 25 at the top of the page.

Cute boat, stupid name. It should be called Lil' Toot


Oh no! The "C" word. The guys over at Nordic cringe almost everytime
somebody uses that word. As Jim Cress of Nordic Tug once commented,
"When we built 26-foot boats, OK, they might have been 'cute'. We go
cruising in our 50-footer and it's just unbelievable how many people
will come runing up to us at the dock to let us know just how 'cute'
they think it is".

I guess the women don't mind having a "cute" boat, and we all know that
when a couple goes out shopping HE wears the pants in the family, but
SHE carries the checkbook in her purse.



And "she" is more likely to approve a "cute little boat" with nice
creature comforts. It really is a nice, "cute" boat. You think those
speeds are do-able with that bitty engine?

I'm optimistic the speeds will be acheivable. This is a lightweight
boat without a lot of draft.
I know a lot of the people behind this project, and they're not going
to run out a lot of numbers in which they don't have some confidence. I
assume, but don't know, that they have had the hull and liner out for
some speed trials, suitably weighted down to simulate a completed boat
of course. They also can make some fairly informed calculations based
on the historic performance of the 21-footer.

From a "big picture" perspective, I'm excited about this boat and what
a boat like this can mean to future prospects for boating. We don't
have the fish we had even 15-20 years ago, and we will probably have
fewer fish yet 15-20 years from now. The number of boats being sold
primarily for fishing will surely decline. How many people will spend
$100k for a 26-foot boat that can only be used (for fishing) maybe a
couple of weekends a year?

At least here in the Pac NW, there's a lot of enjoyable boating to do
that doesn't involve fishing. (I didn't wet a line all last year....).
Relatively affordable boats where a couple or even a small family can
take off for a weekend or longer allow people to enjoy our scores of
marine state parks, visit funky little waterfront towns, and just kick
back and enjoy some of the finest scenery in the world......(on the two
days per year when it isn't foggy, overcast, cold, dark, damp, dismal,
etc)... are important to the continued vitality of the pastime.

Speaking of which, I didn't notice many rod holders!
--
'Til next time,

John H

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NOYB wrote:
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Harry Krause wrote:
wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
wrote:
I just heard from a local company that they took orders for 12 of
their
new 26-foot trailerable tugs at the recent Seattle Boat
Show........and
that was without a finished boat on display!
(They had a hull and liner to show)

It was just about 25 years ago that a little company called Nordic
Tug
introduced a 26-foot tug at the Seattle show. Nordic did a little
better, taking orders for some huge number of boats (that I will say
was in the 30's without going to the bother of checking my notes for
the exact figure).

Interesting to see how well this concept has endured, and how
receptive
the public is to a small boat with some "appeal".

The new boat is built by a partnership formed between Ranger Tug
Company and C-Dory Marine. The Ranger Tug has been around for a
while,
(built by the Livingston fammily) but has been essentially an open
boat
with no superstructure aft of an enclosed pilothouse. The new boat
expands that original concept by extending the cabin well aft to
create
a boat with enough cabin that people can get out of the rain or
direct
sun.


At the risk of being tagged for SPAM, additional information on this
new boat is available at
www.c-ranger.com (no link, to pacify the anti spammers). Once on
the
site, all the specs and a conceptual drawing can be viewed by
clicking
on R 25 at the top of the page.

Cute boat, stupid name. It should be called Lil' Toot


Oh no! The "C" word. The guys over at Nordic cringe almost everytime
somebody uses that word. As Jim Cress of Nordic Tug once commented,
"When we built 26-foot boats, OK, they might have been 'cute'. We go
cruising in our 50-footer and it's just unbelievable how many people
will come runing up to us at the dock to let us know just how 'cute'
they think it is".

I guess the women don't mind having a "cute" boat, and we all know that
when a couple goes out shopping HE wears the pants in the family, but
SHE carries the checkbook in her purse.



And "she" is more likely to approve a "cute little boat" with nice
creature comforts. It really is a nice, "cute" boat. You think those
speeds are do-able with that bitty engine?

I'm optimistic the speeds will be acheivable. This is a lightweight
boat without a lot of draft.

Lightweight. Little draft. Tall superstructure on top of the hull. Sounds
tippy.


Potentially, I agree. There are some design compensations one can make
to reduce the tippy tendency, and it will be interesting to see how
stable the finished product it. Weighting down an unfinished hull for
initial trials can duplicate the weight, by won't always duplicate the
COG of the finished boat.

NOYB wrote:
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I guess the women don't mind having a "cute" boat, and we all know that
when a couple goes out shopping HE wears the pants in the family, but
SHE carries the checkbook in her purse.

But I have the Social Security number linked to the stellar credit. ;-)



Does not matter. The credit card and finance companies know you are
liable for SWMBO's debts.

What is a SWMBO?

My guess: She Who Must Be Obeyed

JohnH wrote:
On 8 Feb 2006 08:42:21 -0800, wrote:

I just heard from a local company that they took orders for 12 of their
new 26-foot trailerable tugs at the recent Seattle Boat Show........and
that was without a finished boat on display!
(They had a hull and liner to show)

It was just about 25 years ago that a little company called Nordic Tug
introduced a 26-foot tug at the Seattle show. Nordic did a little
better, taking orders for some huge number of boats (that I will say
was in the 30's without going to the bother of checking my notes for
the exact figure).

Interesting to see how well this concept has endured, and how receptive
the public is to a small boat with some "appeal".

The new boat is built by a partnership formed between Ranger Tug
Company and C-Dory Marine. The Ranger Tug has been around for a while,
(built by the Livingston fammily) but has been essentially an open boat
with no superstructure aft of an enclosed pilothouse. The new boat
expands that original concept by extending the cabin well aft to create
a boat with enough cabin that people can get out of the rain or direct
sun.


At the risk of being tagged for SPAM, additional information on this
new boat is available at
www.c-ranger.com (no link, to pacify the anti spammers). Once on the
site, all the specs and a conceptual drawing can be viewed by clicking
on R 25 at the top of the page.

That R25 is beautiful, especially for a little over $100K. Thanks for the
post. Hope those boats make it to the Chesapeake.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


Next time you're out this way to visit your brothers, bring a decent
truck (and a few bucks) with you and I can guarantee that one of these
will make it to the Chesapeake. :-)

Harry Krause wrote:
wrote:
NOYB wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
Harry Krause wrote:
wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
wrote:
I just heard from a local company that they took orders for 12 of
their
new 26-foot trailerable tugs at the recent Seattle Boat
Show........and
that was without a finished boat on display!
(They had a hull and liner to show)

It was just about 25 years ago that a little company called Nordic
Tug
introduced a 26-foot tug at the Seattle show. Nordic did a little
better, taking orders for some huge number of boats (that I will
say
was in the 30's without going to the bother of checking my notes
for
the exact figure).

Interesting to see how well this concept has endured, and how
receptive
the public is to a small boat with some "appeal".

The new boat is built by a partnership formed between Ranger Tug
Company and C-Dory Marine. The Ranger Tug has been around for a
while,
(built by the Livingston fammily) but has been essentially an open
boat
with no superstructure aft of an enclosed pilothouse. The new boat
expands that original concept by extending the cabin well aft to
create
a boat with enough cabin that people can get out of the rain or
direct
sun.


At the risk of being tagged for SPAM, additional information on
this
new boat is available at
www.c-ranger.com (no link, to pacify the anti spammers). Once on
the
site, all the specs and a conceptual drawing can be viewed by
clicking
on R 25 at the top of the page.

Cute boat, stupid name. It should be called Lil' Toot

Oh no! The "C" word. The guys over at Nordic cringe almost everytime
somebody uses that word. As Jim Cress of Nordic Tug once commented,
"When we built 26-foot boats, OK, they might have been 'cute'. We go
cruising in our 50-footer and it's just unbelievable how many people
will come runing up to us at the dock to let us know just how 'cute'
they think it is".

I guess the women don't mind having a "cute" boat, and we all know
that
when a couple goes out shopping HE wears the pants in the family, but
SHE carries the checkbook in her purse.


And "she" is more likely to approve a "cute little boat" with nice
creature comforts. It really is a nice, "cute" boat. You think those
speeds are do-able with that bitty engine?
I'm optimistic the speeds will be acheivable. This is a lightweight
boat without a lot of draft.
Lightweight. Little draft. Tall superstructure on top of the hull.
Sounds
tippy.


Potentially, I agree. There are some design compensations one can make
to reduce the tippy tendency, and it will be interesting to see how
stable the finished product it. Weighting down an unfinished hull for
initial trials can duplicate the weight, by won't always duplicate the
COG of the finished boat.


Parker makes a 25-footer with about the same superstructure. It weighs
about the same. It's the model with a larger cabin than mine. I assure
you, it is not tippy. Further, I've been on the flying bridge of a 25'
Parker, and it was not tippy, either.

But the little tug looks like it would be a handful to dock in windy
conditions.
Harry,
I would think your boat would be a handful in windy conditions. It is a
fairly large superstructure, relative to the boat size, relatively light
weight, without a keel. Perfect conditions for the boat to sail while
moving slowly, especially in close quarters.

Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

wrote:
I just heard from a local company that they took orders for 12 of their
new 26-foot trailerable tugs at the recent Seattle Boat Show........and
that was without a finished boat on display!
(They had a hull and liner to show)

It was just about 25 years ago that a little company called Nordic Tug
introduced a 26-foot tug at the Seattle show. Nordic did a little
better, taking orders for some huge number of boats (that I will say
was in the 30's without going to the bother of checking my notes for
the exact figure).

Interesting to see how well this concept has endured, and how receptive
the public is to a small boat with some "appeal".

The new boat is built by a partnership formed between Ranger Tug
Company and C-Dory Marine. The Ranger Tug has been around for a while,
(built by the Livingston fammily) but has been essentially an open boat
with no superstructure aft of an enclosed pilothouse. The new boat
expands that original concept by extending the cabin well aft to create
a boat with enough cabin that people can get out of the rain or direct
sun.


At the risk of being tagged for SPAM, additional information on this
new boat is available at
www.c-ranger.com (no link, to pacify the anti spammers). Once on the
site, all the specs and a conceptual drawing can be viewed by clicking
on R 25 at the top of the page.

I knew a lady who took her Nordic Tug up the Mississippi.
She thought it was the perfect boat for the shallow creeks and rivers
coming off the Miss.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

Harry Krause wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
wrote:
NOYB wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
Harry Krause wrote:
wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
wrote:
I just heard from a local company that they took orders for 12 of
their
new 26-foot trailerable tugs at the recent Seattle Boat
Show........and
that was without a finished boat on display!
(They had a hull and liner to show)

It was just about 25 years ago that a little company called
Nordic
Tug
introduced a 26-foot tug at the Seattle show. Nordic did a little
better, taking orders for some huge number of boats (that I
will say
was in the 30's without going to the bother of checking my
notes for
the exact figure).

Interesting to see how well this concept has endured, and how
receptive
the public is to a small boat with some "appeal".

The new boat is built by a partnership formed between Ranger Tug
Company and C-Dory Marine. The Ranger Tug has been around for a
while,
(built by the Livingston fammily) but has been essentially an
open
boat
with no superstructure aft of an enclosed pilothouse. The new
boat
expands that original concept by extending the cabin well aft to
create
a boat with enough cabin that people can get out of the rain or
direct
sun.


At the risk of being tagged for SPAM, additional information
on this
new boat is available at
www.c-ranger.com (no link, to pacify the anti spammers).
Once on
the
site, all the specs and a conceptual drawing can be viewed by
clicking
on R 25 at the top of the page.

Cute boat, stupid name. It should be called Lil' Toot
Oh no! The "C" word. The guys over at Nordic cringe almost
everytime
somebody uses that word. As Jim Cress of Nordic Tug once commented,
"When we built 26-foot boats, OK, they might have been 'cute'.
We go
cruising in our 50-footer and it's just unbelievable how many
people
will come runing up to us at the dock to let us know just how
'cute'
they think it is".

I guess the women don't mind having a "cute" boat, and we all
know that
when a couple goes out shopping HE wears the pants in the
family, but
SHE carries the checkbook in her purse.

And "she" is more likely to approve a "cute little boat" with nice
creature comforts. It really is a nice, "cute" boat. You think those
speeds are do-able with that bitty engine?
I'm optimistic the speeds will be acheivable. This is a lightweight
boat without a lot of draft.
Lightweight. Little draft. Tall superstructure on top of the
hull. Sounds
tippy.

Potentially, I agree. There are some design compensations one can make
to reduce the tippy tendency, and it will be interesting to see how
stable the finished product it. Weighting down an unfinished hull for
initial trials can duplicate the weight, by won't always duplicate the
COG of the finished boat.

Parker makes a 25-footer with about the same superstructure. It
weighs about the same. It's the model with a larger cabin than mine.
I assure you, it is not tippy. Further, I've been on the flying
bridge of a 25' Parker, and it was not tippy, either.

But the little tug looks like it would be a handful to dock in windy
conditions.
Harry,
I would think your boat would be a handful in windy conditions. It is
a fairly large superstructure, relative to the boat size, relatively
light weight, without a keel. Perfect conditions for the boat to
sail while moving slowly, especially in close quarters.

Reggie


You would think...wrong.


Well, that won't be the first time I was wrong.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

Wow! What a great example of why top posting makes sense.
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
wrote:
NOYB wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
Harry Krause wrote:
wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
wrote:
I just heard from a local company that they took orders for 12
of
their
new 26-foot trailerable tugs at the recent Seattle Boat
Show........and
that was without a finished boat on display!
(They had a hull and liner to show)

It was just about 25 years ago that a little company called
Nordic
Tug
introduced a 26-foot tug at the Seattle show. Nordic did a
little
better, taking orders for some huge number of boats (that I will
say
was in the 30's without going to the bother of checking my notes
for
the exact figure).

Interesting to see how well this concept has endured, and how
receptive
the public is to a small boat with some "appeal".

The new boat is built by a partnership formed between Ranger Tug
Company and C-Dory Marine. The Ranger Tug has been around for a
while,
(built by the Livingston fammily) but has been essentially an
open
boat
with no superstructure aft of an enclosed pilothouse. The new
boat
expands that original concept by extending the cabin well aft to
create
a boat with enough cabin that people can get out of the rain or
direct
sun.


At the risk of being tagged for SPAM, additional information on
this
new boat is available at
www.c-ranger.com (no link, to pacify the anti spammers). Once
on
the
site, all the specs and a conceptual drawing can be viewed by
clicking
on R 25 at the top of the page.

Cute boat, stupid name. It should be called Lil' Toot
Oh no! The "C" word. The guys over at Nordic cringe almost
everytime
somebody uses that word. As Jim Cress of Nordic Tug once
commented,
"When we built 26-foot boats, OK, they might have been 'cute'. We
go
cruising in our 50-footer and it's just unbelievable how many
people
will come runing up to us at the dock to let us know just how
'cute'
they think it is".

I guess the women don't mind having a "cute" boat, and we all know
that
when a couple goes out shopping HE wears the pants in the family,
but
SHE carries the checkbook in her purse.

And "she" is more likely to approve a "cute little boat" with nice
creature comforts. It really is a nice, "cute" boat. You think
those
speeds are do-able with that bitty engine?
I'm optimistic the speeds will be acheivable. This is a lightweight
boat without a lot of draft.
Lightweight. Little draft. Tall superstructure on top of the hull.
Sounds
tippy.

Potentially, I agree. There are some design compensations one can make
to reduce the tippy tendency, and it will be interesting to see how
stable the finished product it. Weighting down an unfinished hull for
initial trials can duplicate the weight, by won't always duplicate the
COG of the finished boat.

Parker makes a 25-footer with about the same superstructure. It weighs
about the same. It's the model with a larger cabin than mine. I assure
you, it is not tippy. Further, I've been on the flying bridge of a 25'
Parker, and it was not tippy, either.

But the little tug looks like it would be a handful to dock in windy
conditions.
Harry,
I would think your boat would be a handful in windy conditions. It is a
fairly large superstructure, relative to the boat size, relatively light
weight, without a keel. Perfect conditions for the boat to sail while
moving slowly, especially in close quarters.

Reggie


You would think...wrong.


Well, that won't be the first time I was wrong.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 18:20:10 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

What is a SWMBO?

She

Who

Must

Be

Obeyed

Boy, have you led a charmed life if you didn't know what a SWMBO is...


As my father-in-law says, when I actually believe that I can win an argument
with my wife:

"you can't put an old head on young shoulders".

On 8 Feb 2006 11:20:40 -0800, wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 8 Feb 2006 08:42:21 -0800, wrote:

I just heard from a local company that they took orders for 12 of their
new 26-foot trailerable tugs at the recent Seattle Boat Show........and
that was without a finished boat on display!
(They had a hull and liner to show)

It was just about 25 years ago that a little company called Nordic Tug
introduced a 26-foot tug at the Seattle show. Nordic did a little
better, taking orders for some huge number of boats (that I will say
was in the 30's without going to the bother of checking my notes for
the exact figure).

Interesting to see how well this concept has endured, and how receptive
the public is to a small boat with some "appeal".

The new boat is built by a partnership formed between Ranger Tug
Company and C-Dory Marine. The Ranger Tug has been around for a while,
(built by the Livingston fammily) but has been essentially an open boat
with no superstructure aft of an enclosed pilothouse. The new boat
expands that original concept by extending the cabin well aft to create
a boat with enough cabin that people can get out of the rain or direct
sun.


At the risk of being tagged for SPAM, additional information on this
new boat is available at
www.c-ranger.com (no link, to pacify the anti spammers). Once on the
site, all the specs and a conceptual drawing can be viewed by clicking
on R 25 at the top of the page.

That R25 is beautiful, especially for a little over $100K. Thanks for the
post. Hope those boats make it to the Chesapeake.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


Next time you're out this way to visit your brothers, bring a decent
truck (and a few bucks) with you and I can guarantee that one of these
will make it to the Chesapeake. :-)

I'll just fly it back on my 747.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************