JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:02:07 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

This ought to do the trick:
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/firear...ore/1895G.aspx


Cool! This was my 'squirrel gun' when I was a kid. I hadn't thought about
it for ages, until you posted that site. Brings back lots of memories.

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firear...Golden39A.aspx
--
'Til next time,

John H

You hunted squirrels with a 45-70? That round was designed for buffalo!

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:27:05 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:43:44 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:05:13 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

How do you teach a juvenile delinquent dog not to bark at everything he sees
in the back yard?
He's just over 10 months and is starting to feel his oats. We have a fenced
in backyard for him to romp around in but he has developed a liking to
standing at the fence line and barking at a neighbor's house that is quite a
ways back from the fence line. I want him to get used to playing around in
the back, but don't want to drive the neighbors nuts. He's proud of himself
because his voice has changed and now has a very deep, throaty bark.

If I call him back to the house he always comes. I just can't leave him out
there for very long.

RCE

Go sailing out the back door like a banshee yelling 'NO' as loudly and
gruffly as you possibly can. I'm assuming your dog understands 'NO'. That
worked for both my dogs.

Now I can no longer use the word "no" with the lab. She can't hear.

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'Til next time,

John H

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You guys need to move up to a category of pets smarter and less
dependent than dogs.

None of my cats bark. Further, each has a repertoire of tricks it
performs on its own, without coaxing. Some of these tricks seemingly
defy gravity.

And each cat takes care of its own bathroom functions in the assigned
litter boxes. No need to worry about your pets' bowel habits if you
leave the house for a day or two.


Got cats too. Got one cat that thinks anything left on the floor in the way
of a briefcase, camera bag, or suitcase needs to be 'marked'. My wife won't
let me shoot it. It, BTW, is the 'almost twin' of yours.

Both of them are 'lap' cats. Strangely, the white faced one sits on my lap,
and the orange faced one sits on my wife's. They *never* switch. In the
picture on abpso, Huguenot (Huey) is the one on the left, Tobias (Toby) the
one on the right. Although both are male, only Toby feels the need to mark
things.
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'Til next time,

John H


Are they "fixed"? All our cats have been fixed, and none marks.
One of our older male adoptees, Casper, howls if he's sleeping by the
window and a critter happens by...

Yeah, both fixed. That's part of the animal shelter deal. I'd always
thought the same thing about 'fixed' cats, but now I know better. We just
don't leave briefcases, etc., laying on the floor or tables open any more.
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'Til next time,

John H

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On 16 Feb 2006 11:36:05 -0800, wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:02:07 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

This ought to do the trick:
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/firear...ore/1895G.aspx


Cool! This was my 'squirrel gun' when I was a kid. I hadn't thought about
it for ages, until you posted that site. Brings back lots of memories.

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firear...Golden39A.aspx
--
'Til next time,

John H

You hunted squirrels with a 45-70? That round was designed for buffalo!

No, look at the link in my response.
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'Til next time,

John H

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Oh...OK. My ISP's news service is acting retarded today, so I'm
temporarily in google groups. Not used to it. I almost got my son a
39A, but opted for a Ruger 10-22 instead. Didn't want to spend the
money until I was sure he was really interested.

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:05:13 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

How do you teach a juvenile delinquent dog not to bark at everything he
sees
in the back yard?

The first and best way is to train the dog not to bark. That often
requires your presence with the dog and normal behavior training. The
following is what I tell people to do and it often works.

One is that you personally invest time with the dog - probably for a
couple of weeks using positive reinforcement to train your dog to bark
on command; this will help him learn how to be quieted on command as
well.

The other way is to invest in a citronella no-bark collar, which is
effective and not cruel; if your dog barks, the collar sprays a small
amount of citronella, which dogs dislike. It works well, but doesn't
help you become a command presence for the dog and actually is a
negative type of training. It doesn't allow for command presence. If
your dog needs to bark at something he is afraid of, for instance, the
citronella collar doesn't work as well.

The best way is the first way - on command.

Mrs.E has actually spent a lot of time with him and has done a good job.
He's basically obedient, sits, stays, all that stuff. She also taught him
to "speak" but only softly. If he barks loud - no reward. He's just trying
my patience. He's surprisingly smart ... for a dog.

He was just out there barking again. The door is open, so I hollered at
him. He came trotting in looking for his reward. Not this time.

RCE

Harry Krause wrote:
JohnH wrote:

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:05:13 -0500, "RCE" wrote:


How do you teach a juvenile delinquent dog not to bark at everything
he sees in the back yard?
He's just over 10 months and is starting to feel his oats. We have a
fenced in backyard for him to romp around in but he has developed a
liking to standing at the fence line and barking at a neighbor's
house that is quite a ways back from the fence line. I want him to
get used to playing around in the back, but don't want to drive the
neighbors nuts. He's proud of himself because his voice has changed
and now has a very deep, throaty bark.

If I call him back to the house he always comes. I just can't leave
him out there for very long.

RCE


Go sailing out the back door like a banshee yelling 'NO' as loudly and
gruffly as you possibly can. I'm assuming your dog understands 'NO'. That
worked for both my dogs.

Now I can no longer use the word "no" with the lab. She can't hear.

--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************



You guys need to move up to a category of pets smarter and less
dependent than dogs.

None of my cats bark. Further, each has a repertoire of tricks it
performs on its own, without coaxing. Some of these tricks seemingly
defy gravity.

And each cat takes care of its own bathroom functions in the assigned
litter boxes. No need to worry about your pets' bowel habits if you
leave the house for a day or two.



We've been living relatively trouble free with the same cat for about 14
years. Now the wife is getting wound up about a dog. She may have
already pre-ordered an English Springer Spaniel pup from a proposed June
litter. Guess who'll get to walk it 3 times a day and clean up it's s*it.

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 00:06:59 GMT, Don White wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:
JohnH wrote:

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:05:13 -0500, "RCE" wrote:


How do you teach a juvenile delinquent dog not to bark at everything
he sees in the back yard?
He's just over 10 months and is starting to feel his oats. We have a
fenced in backyard for him to romp around in but he has developed a
liking to standing at the fence line and barking at a neighbor's
house that is quite a ways back from the fence line. I want him to
get used to playing around in the back, but don't want to drive the
neighbors nuts. He's proud of himself because his voice has changed
and now has a very deep, throaty bark.

If I call him back to the house he always comes. I just can't leave
him out there for very long.

RCE


Go sailing out the back door like a banshee yelling 'NO' as loudly and
gruffly as you possibly can. I'm assuming your dog understands 'NO'. That
worked for both my dogs.

Now I can no longer use the word "no" with the lab. She can't hear.

--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************



You guys need to move up to a category of pets smarter and less
dependent than dogs.

None of my cats bark. Further, each has a repertoire of tricks it
performs on its own, without coaxing. Some of these tricks seemingly
defy gravity.

And each cat takes care of its own bathroom functions in the assigned
litter boxes. No need to worry about your pets' bowel habits if you
leave the house for a day or two.



We've been living relatively trouble free with the same cat for about 14
years. Now the wife is getting wound up about a dog. She may have
already pre-ordered an English Springer Spaniel pup from a proposed June
litter. Guess who'll get to walk it 3 times a day and clean up it's s*it.

And tie you down like no cat ever would.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:56:03 -0500, "RCE" wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:05:13 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

How do you teach a juvenile delinquent dog not to bark at everything he
sees
in the back yard?

The first and best way is to train the dog not to bark. That often
requires your presence with the dog and normal behavior training. The
following is what I tell people to do and it often works.

One is that you personally invest time with the dog - probably for a
couple of weeks using positive reinforcement to train your dog to bark
on command; this will help him learn how to be quieted on command as
well.

The other way is to invest in a citronella no-bark collar, which is
effective and not cruel; if your dog barks, the collar sprays a small
amount of citronella, which dogs dislike. It works well, but doesn't
help you become a command presence for the dog and actually is a
negative type of training. It doesn't allow for command presence. If
your dog needs to bark at something he is afraid of, for instance, the
citronella collar doesn't work as well.

The best way is the first way - on command.

Mrs.E has actually spent a lot of time with him and has done a good job.
He's basically obedient, sits, stays, all that stuff. She also taught him
to "speak" but only softly. If he barks loud - no reward. He's just
trying
my patience. He's surprisingly smart ... for a dog.

He was just out there barking again. The door is open, so I hollered at
him. He came trotting in looking for his reward. Not this time.

The problem is that you have to connect the discipline with the
activity - just like a two year old. He's used to getting a reward
for coming in, but at the same time, it's not connected to the
unwanted barking activity. In his mind, he barks, you holler, he gets
to come in and chow down. It's much to complicated for him to
understand at this point. Later on, he might make the connection, but
not at this age.

You have to be with him to get him to stop or use a mechanical device.

Do you ever use shock collars, like those I see in hunting catalogs?

Doug Kanter wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:56:03 -0500, "RCE" wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:05:13 -0500, "RCE" wrote:


How do you teach a juvenile delinquent dog not to bark at everything he
sees
in the back yard?

The first and best way is to train the dog not to bark. That often
requires your presence with the dog and normal behavior training. The
following is what I tell people to do and it often works.

One is that you personally invest time with the dog - probably for a
couple of weeks using positive reinforcement to train your dog to bark
on command; this will help him learn how to be quieted on command as
well.

The other way is to invest in a citronella no-bark collar, which is
effective and not cruel; if your dog barks, the collar sprays a small
amount of citronella, which dogs dislike. It works well, but doesn't
help you become a command presence for the dog and actually is a
negative type of training. It doesn't allow for command presence. If
your dog needs to bark at something he is afraid of, for instance, the
citronella collar doesn't work as well.

The best way is the first way - on command.

Mrs.E has actually spent a lot of time with him and has done a good job.
He's basically obedient, sits, stays, all that stuff. She also taught him
to "speak" but only softly. If he barks loud - no reward. He's just
trying
my patience. He's surprisingly smart ... for a dog.

He was just out there barking again. The door is open, so I hollered at
him. He came trotting in looking for his reward. Not this time.

The problem is that you have to connect the discipline with the
activity - just like a two year old. He's used to getting a reward
for coming in, but at the same time, it's not connected to the
unwanted barking activity. In his mind, he barks, you holler, he gets
to come in and chow down. It's much to complicated for him to
understand at this point. Later on, he might make the connection, but
not at this age.

You have to be with him to get him to stop or use a mechanical device.


Do you ever use shock collars, like those I see in hunting catalogs?


My sister bought one of those for her Corgi.
That dumb dog was so stubborn, he'd bark anyway. Reminded me of that
'Simpsons' episode where the whole family was hooked up to electrodes at
a research clinic and kept shocking each other.

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

The problem is that you have to connect the discipline with the
activity - just like a two year old. He's used to getting a reward
for coming in, but at the same time, it's not connected to the
unwanted barking activity. In his mind, he barks, you holler, he gets
to come in and chow down. It's much to complicated for him to
understand at this point. Later on, he might make the connection, but
not at this age.

You have to be with him to get him to stop or use a mechanical device.

Not to be difficult, but I've tried. I have spent an hour at a time with
him out there several times. If I am with him, he doesn't bark because he's
too busy trying to get me to play. (which he is mostly successful at).

I went down to the PetMart or whatever it is this morning and found a spray
collar. It was in a locked case so the store manager was called to open it.
As he handed it to me he asked what kind of dog I had. I told him he was a
10 and a half month old, 94lb Lab. The guy laughed at me and took the spray
collar package back. He said it wouldn't faze him at all. So, I asked what
he recommended and he produced a collar that looks like it came from the
dark caverns of the Inquisition. It's a shock type with two metal prongs
and an adjustable shock level.

Couldn't do it. Handed it back to him and said thanks, anyway.

RCE