These guys do a very thorough and meticulous job. Notice in the picture
below how they remove fastening hardware before spraying and then replace
it afterward, as opposed to just spraying over it. Just the way you would
want it done

http://www2.line-x.com/ns/PhotoGallery.html?now=8499


Aw crap, that didn't work the way it was supposed to. Click the link above,
and then select 04 Toyota Tundra D-Cab Rear View from the drop-down box,
then click View Image. That will get you to the photo I intended.

Russ

JIMinFL wrote:
" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...
"JIMinFL" wrote in message
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200,000 miles on CamryXLE: No unscheduled maintenance or repairs. Routine
oil changes, timing belts at 75K intervals, 2 sets of tires, 1 set brake
pads, 1 air filter, windshield washer fluid as needed, 2 sets of wiper
blades, 1 transmission fluid exchange. Spark plugs never changed.
If you plan to keep the vehicle for many miles, Toyota wouldn't be a bad
choice.
Jim


One air filter change over those 200,000 miles?

That is correct. And it Wasn't even that dirty.
Jim



Jim,
I can not think of one reason why you would lie about the life of your
tires or how many miles before you change your air filter, but it is
amazing and you can understand why some of us were skeptical. You need
to submit them to the Ripley's Believe it or Not, and the tire manu. and
filter manu.



--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."

On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:10:43 -0700, "RG" wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...
Well...I picked up the Ranger extended cab 'Sport' this morning, c/w 3.0
liter V6 and 5 speed OD automatic.
I took the snap on tonneau cover and the step up rails as my free
accessory choice. I had them install a box liner....
Salesman indicated I might be responsible for refinishing box at turn in
time if it got too banged/scratched up.

Should have gone with a spray-in liner. The only way to go. I've had
Line-X sprayed in my last two trucks and really like it. The stuff is
indestructible, and unlike a hard plastic drop-in liner won't promote rust
by removing paint in the box and trapping moisture under the liner. Also
will add traction to things placed in the bed, whereas the hard plastic
drop-in actually makes things worse than no liner in that department. And,
it act as a noise reducer rather than a noise producer. Not sure how a
spray-in liner would be looked at from the leasing company's perspective,
but I wouldn't think it would be a problem as the spray-in liners increase
trade-in values when appraising used vehicles at Kelley Blue Book or
Edmunds. Any chance you can reverse that choice at this early date?
Seriously, there's no comparison to the utility and functionality of a
spray-in liner versus a drop-in. I'd easily walk away from a free drop-in
liner and pay for a Line-X or equivalent spray-in. On a compact truck, the
cost of the spray-in shouldn't be that bad, especially when you amortize it
over the lease term.


Rhinoliner Rules!

Almost ten years on mine, and I love it! Cost about $400. Worth much more
than that. When I took the plastic dura-liner thing out, there was very
little paint left on the bed. In several spots the wear was clear thru the
primer with bare metal showing.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 02:40:40 -0500, "RCE" wrote:


"RG" wrote in message
news:lcmXf.14806$6a1.5728@fed1read04...


How much did it cost you to spray your bed?

$389 USD plus tax. Ford F250 short bed. Done December 2004 on current
truck

$289 USD plus tax. Same model truck. Done October 1999 on previous
truck.

Both done by the same Line-X dealer. I was a bit taken aback by the
percentage increase for the second job, but I was so pleased with the five
years spent with the first job that I never considered not doing it. Both
were done in the first week of ownership of each truck. Maybe others will
chime in here with their experiences, but I am way serious about how good
a product this stuff is. There are other brands beside Line-X, but that's
the one I have experience with, and I'm sold on it. At least check into
it, Don. You owe it to yourself and your new truck.

I understand the application process includes sanding of the paint in the
bed so the spray will stick.
Was that your experience? If so, I figure I'll use my truck and when the
bed gets really scratched and dinged up in a few years, then I'll have the
Line-X or similar put on.

RCE


It is my belief that you should spray it *before* any rust has a chance to
get started.

Rhinoliner Rules!
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..
JIMinFL wrote:
" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...
"JIMinFL" wrote in message
ink.net...
200,000 miles on CamryXLE: No unscheduled maintenance or repairs.
Routine oil changes, timing belts at 75K intervals, 2 sets of tires, 1
set brake pads, 1 air filter, windshield washer fluid as needed, 2 sets
of wiper blades, 1 transmission fluid exchange. Spark plugs never
changed.
If you plan to keep the vehicle for many miles, Toyota wouldn't be a
bad choice.
Jim


One air filter change over those 200,000 miles?

That is correct. And it Wasn't even that dirty.
Jim



Jim,
I can not think of one reason why you would lie about the life of your
tires or how many miles before you change your air filter, but it is
amazing and you can understand why some of us were skeptical. You need to
submit them to the Ripley's Believe it or Not, and the tire manu. and
filter manu.



--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."
1st and 2nd set of tires was Dunlop and 3rd set was Michelin which still had
a lot of tread left when we got rid of the car. I don't skimp on tire
quality. I don't see anything odd about getting that tire mileage.

I admit that air filter replacement interval doesn't fit the norm. Crankcase
breathers and belt chafe are probably the prime contributors to filter
clogging unless you live in a dust bowl like Kansas. PCVs got rid of the
breather problem and serpentine belts got rid of a lot of the belt chafe.
Lawn and garden equipment excluded, don't most air filters last longer than
they used to?

"RCE" wrote in message
...

"RG" wrote in message
news:lcmXf.14806$6a1.5728@fed1read04...


How much did it cost you to spray your bed?

$389 USD plus tax. Ford F250 short bed. Done December 2004 on current
truck

$289 USD plus tax. Same model truck. Done October 1999 on previous
truck.

Both done by the same Line-X dealer. I was a bit taken aback by the
percentage increase for the second job, but I was so pleased with the
five years spent with the first job that I never considered not doing it.
Both were done in the first week of ownership of each truck. Maybe
others will chime in here with their experiences, but I am way serious
about how good a product this stuff is. There are other brands beside
Line-X, but that's the one I have experience with, and I'm sold on it.
At least check into it, Don. You owe it to yourself and your new truck.

I understand the application process includes sanding of the paint in the
bed so the spray will stick.
Was that your experience? If so, I figure I'll use my truck and when the
bed gets really scratched and dinged up in a few years, then I'll have the
Line-X or similar put on.

If you are going to cover your bed with a soft or hard tonneau or other
shell of some kind I strongly reccomend the BedRug. I've had one in my truck
for about 4 years now and it is great at protecting the bed and protecting
the contents in the bed.

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:10:43 -0700, "RG" wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...
Well...I picked up the Ranger extended cab 'Sport' this morning, c/w 3.0
liter V6 and 5 speed OD automatic.
I took the snap on tonneau cover and the step up rails as my free
accessory choice. I had them install a box liner....
Salesman indicated I might be responsible for refinishing box at turn in
time if it got too banged/scratched up.

Should have gone with a spray-in liner. The only way to go. I've had
Line-X sprayed in my last two trucks and really like it. The stuff is
indestructible, and unlike a hard plastic drop-in liner won't promote rust
by removing paint in the box and trapping moisture under the liner. Also
will add traction to things placed in the bed, whereas the hard plastic
drop-in actually makes things worse than no liner in that department.
And,
it act as a noise reducer rather than a noise producer. Not sure how a
spray-in liner would be looked at from the leasing company's perspective,
but I wouldn't think it would be a problem as the spray-in liners increase
trade-in values when appraising used vehicles at Kelley Blue Book or
Edmunds. Any chance you can reverse that choice at this early date?
Seriously, there's no comparison to the utility and functionality of a
spray-in liner versus a drop-in. I'd easily walk away from a free drop-in
liner and pay for a Line-X or equivalent spray-in. On a compact truck,
the
cost of the spray-in shouldn't be that bad, especially when you amortize
it
over the lease term.


Rhinoliner Rules!

Almost ten years on mine, and I love it! Cost about $400. Worth much more
than that. When I took the plastic dura-liner thing out, there was very
little paint left on the bed. In several spots the wear was clear thru the
primer with bare metal showing.

I had a hard liner in my '92 Ranger and the bed was really scuffed up from
the hard liner rubbing up against every surface it could rub. My next truck
an '01 F-150 SuperCrew has a hard tonneau and a Bed Rug. If you are going to
cover the bed then get a Bed Rug. Bed Rugs are about the same cost as a
spray in liner but, they are cleanable and removable.

Don White wrote:
Well...I picked up the Ranger extended cab 'Sport' this morning, c/w 3.0
liter V6 and 5 speed OD automatic.
I took the snap on tonneau cover and the step up rails as my free
accessory choice. I had them install a box liner....
Salesman indicated I might be responsible for refinishing box at turn in
time if it got too banged/scratched up.
Got a bit lucky playing.. 'Make a deal'. I won $500.00 by picking the
right briefcase and not taking a chance on trying to increase by chosing
another.
Can't wait till I hitch the sailboat to the truck and head for the water.

Well congrats!

Yesterday was new car day for SWMBO around here. (Next time hybrids
come up for discussion I'll have some first hand experiences to
report),

I concur with the remarks, down thread, that this is the proper time to
apply any bedliners, undercoats, etc. If you apply these coatings over
a surface where rust has started up, there's a chance the rust might
just continue its dirty work under the plastic or tar.

Interesting that you opted for a lease. We were prepared to write a
check for the wife's new ride, but opted for a "single payment" lease
instead. We wrote a check for 20% of the price of the car, turned in
the Subaru, and our lease payment each month for the next three years
is $0.00. The cost of money on this deal was less than 2%, even when
factoring in that when leasing one does not get the tax credit normally
offered to buyers of hybrids. Seemed like a no-brainer, as if we simply
leave the money in savings it will earn more in interest than it is
costing to (in effect) "finance" the balloon payment (residual). The
other reason I thought a lease made sense was the "new technology"
aspect of the vehicle. Those of us who remember the "new technology" of
the GM diesels from the early 80's know what can happen to resale if
public sentiment turns against a new system or something else
unforeseen (like a revolutionary improvement) occurs. I can remember
driving around trying to wholesale 2 and 3 year old Oldsmobile and
Cadillac diesel trade-ins and getting offers like "$500. I've got a
back row full of them already!" It was tough to make a deal when the
buyers, even in those days, still owed $10,000 on a $500 car.

Consumer Reports just stated that the vehicle we purhcased was among
the 2 or 3 "most reliable" vehicles introduced in 2005 as 2006 models,
but if that doesn't turn out to be the case and resale value drops to
some ridiculously low figure, we can always turn it in and our
depreciation will be limited to the difference between what we paid and
the (in effect) "guaranteed resale value" provided by the residual.

RG wrote:

How much did it cost you to spray your bed?


$389 USD plus tax. Ford F250 short bed. Done December 2004 on current
truck

$289 USD plus tax. Same model truck. Done October 1999 on previous truck.

Both done by the same Line-X dealer. I was a bit taken aback by the
percentage increase for the second job, but I was so pleased with the five
years spent with the first job that I never considered not doing it. Both
were done in the first week of ownership of each truck. Maybe others will
chime in here with their experiences, but I am way serious about how good a
product this stuff is. There are other brands beside Line-X, but that's the
one I have experience with, and I'm sold on it. At least check into it,
Don. You owe it to yourself and your new truck.


Checked their website for dealers. Looks like they have none in the
Maritimes. Website says they are looking for franchises.
Could be a good little venture for a bored young retiree.

RG wrote:
Here's a link to Line-X Canada:

http://www.line-x.ca/linex/loc1.htm?now=76850

Something to think about: You may end up liking your new Ranger so much
that you end up buying it at the end of the lease. Under this scenario,
getting the spray-in liner and getting it done early makes even more sense.



There would be no question if I had leased a beautiful Tundra.
(would have, except payments were more than I wanted to pay for truck
and even regular cab truck too long for my narrow street)