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What do you know! Despite all the naysayers, it does fly!!

On Fri, 19 May 2006 15:28:48 GMT, Gene Kearns
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On 19 May 2006 05:49:57 -0700, "basskisser"
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What do you know! Despite all the naysayers, it does fly!!

I don't think anybody ever said it wouldn't fly... question is "for
what purpose?" and "Where?"

On the departure end you have to have a gazillion people all headed to
the same airport and on the arrival end you have to have an airport
that actually wants the thing to land.... and there have been a lot of
airports that have invited the thing to stay away.

Most large airports can't justify the capital improvements necessary
to accommodate an aircraft of that size and possibly... weight.
Locally, we'll have accommodations, but only because a major package
carrier will have a hub and is buying the pieces of crap for freight
hauling.... which is probably the best thing for them to do.

A report on CNN gave the rationale as 'ramp space'. Some airlines, like
Singapore Airlines (I think) are allowed only one flight into some major
airports per day, because of a lack of ramp space. The airlines have the
demand for more passengers, but can only land one airplane per day at the
airport. With the Airbus, they can double (or so) the number of passengers,
especially the first class folks where all the money is.
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'Til next time,

John H

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Harry,
I tend to agree with Gene that the problem will be in the long boarding
and deplaning for this monster, not with the safety of the plane.

I really shouldn't have written that, that might be the kiss of death.

It will be interesting to see who ends up using this behomoth.

The A380, which can transport between 555 and 840 people, or 40 percent
more than the Boeing 747, was to return to Berlin early Friday.

Singapore Airlines was to be the first carrier to put the plane into
passenger service later in 2006. Other airlines that have placed orders
include Virgin Atlantic, Qantas, Qatar Airways and Dubai-based
Emirates.

According to Airbus, the development costs of the A380 stand at about
10.7 billion dollars (8.4 billion euros) and the average catalogue
price of each aircraft is 300 million dollars (235 million euros).

So far, 16 airlines have lodged a total of 159 firm orders for the
Airbus plane. Champion of Airbus said Thursday that any airline wishing
to order A380s at the present time would have to wait until 2011 for
delivery.

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On 20 May 2006 05:30:16 -0700, "Reginald P. Smithers"
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According to Airbus, the development costs of the A380 stand at about
10.7 billion dollars (8.4 billion euros) and the average catalogue
price of each aircraft is 300 million dollars (235 million euros).

How can they make money on this? It will take 36 of these things,
just to cover the development cost, if they could build them for free.
The reality is they probably lose money at $300 million


That is what happens when you have guvmints involve if business.

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On 20 May 2006 05:30:16 -0700, "Reginald P. Smithers"
wrote:

According to Airbus, the development costs of the A380 stand at about
10.7 billion dollars (8.4 billion euros) and the average catalogue
price of each aircraft is 300 million dollars (235 million euros).

How can they make money on this? It will take 36 of these things,
just to cover the development cost, if they could build them for free.
The reality is they probably lose money at $300 million



You have to study the complex multi-government financing arrangements.

Here's some background information:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus#...on_with_Boeing

RCE

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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P. Fritz wrote:
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On 20 May 2006 05:30:16 -0700, "Reginald P. Smithers"
wrote:

According to Airbus, the development costs of the A380 stand at about
10.7 billion dollars (8.4 billion euros) and the average catalogue
price of each aircraft is 300 million dollars (235 million euros).

How can they make money on this? It will take 36 of these things,
just to cover the development cost, if they could build them for
free.
The reality is they probably lose money at $300 million


That is what happens when you have guvmints involve if business.



This is what happens when the government is not properly involved in
business:

http://tinyurl.com/s3xgn

They were involved. Jus did not do a good job. Not much different than
they have done for a lot if years. Thalidomide is actually coming back as a
anti-cancer drug. The same effect that it had on the growing fetus, is a
good anti-cancer item. Thalidomide stopped the formation of new blood
vessels, which is one of the things that cancers require.