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engine will not start
I have a 1987 Bayliner with a 350 engine in it.
I am not getting any spark to the plugs. It is a breaker points system. Is the coil supposed to be hot with the key on at both the positive and negative sides? I touched a test light to both the + and - terminals and the light glows on both. I also touched the wire inside the distributor and it is hot but the other side where the contacts touch is not hot when the points are closed. Any body know anything about this? Thanks, Bayman. |
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engine will not start
bayman wrote:
I have a 1987 Bayliner with a 350 engine in it. I am not getting any spark to the plugs. It is a breaker points system. Is the coil supposed to be hot with the key on at both the positive and negative sides? (+) 12 volts to GROUND(not (-) cranking, less while ON or running. I touched a test light to both the + and - terminals and the light glows on both. Points are shorted to ground, or stuck closed, or shorted through the tachometer or harness to ground. I also touched the wire inside the distributor and it is hot but the other side where the contacts touch is not hot when the points are closed. ? Any body know anything about this? See thread above titled "Mercruiser Still Won't Start" Rob Thanks, Bayman. |
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Normal test results.
Diagnosis: Put your test light on the - side of the coil and crank. The lamp should flash. If no, the points are not closing, they are burned up, the condenser is toast, or the breaker plate isn't grounded. If it does flash, check the dwell with a dwell meter (35°) and test the condenser with the condenser test function of the dwell meter. Doesn't have one? Buy a better meter. Test the coil with an ohm meter. Look for 1-5 ohms across the primary terminals, and over 1K secondary between the coil tower and either primary terminal. If this tests ok, look for the rotor grounding through the distributor shaft; an open coil wire, a missing distributor cap coil terminal button, or less than battery voltage at the + coil terminal during cranking. All OK? Make sure the distributor is actually turning when cranking. It is? Replace the coil. Still no spark? Hire a mechanic. JR bayman wrote: I have a 1987 Bayliner with a 350 engine in it. I am not getting any spark to the plugs. It is a breaker points system. Is the coil supposed to be hot with the key on at both the positive and negative sides? I touched a test light to both the + and - terminals and the light glows on both. I also touched the wire inside the distributor and it is hot but the other side where the contacts touch is not hot when the points are closed. Any body know anything about this? Thanks, Bayman. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth |
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engine will not start
BBBZZZZZZTTTTTT!
If the points are shorted, the - terminal won't glow-the current all goes to ground. If the - terminal glows, the - circuit is open. JR trainfan1 wrote: Points are shorted to ground, or stuck closed, or shorted through the tachometer or harness to ground. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes Doubt yourself, and the real world will eat you alive The world doesn't revolve around you, it revolves around me No skeletons in the closet; just decomposing corpses -------------------------------------------------------------- Dependence is Vulnerability: -------------------------------------------------------------- "Open the Pod Bay Doors please, Hal" "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.." |
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JR North wrote:
BBBZZZZZZTTTTTT! If the points are shorted, the - terminal won't glow-the current all goes to ground. If the - terminal glows, the - circuit is open. JR How does a terminal glow? Rob |
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The test lamp ON the terminal.....tap, tap, tap
JR trainfan1 wrote: JR North wrote: BBBZZZZZZTTTTTT! If the points are shorted, the - terminal won't glow-the current all goes to ground. If the - terminal glows, the - circuit is open. JR How does a terminal glow? Rob -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth |
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JR North wrote:
The test lamp ON the terminal.....tap, tap, tap JR trainfan1 wrote: JR North wrote: BBBZZZZZZTTTTTT! If the points are shorted, the - terminal won't glow-the current all goes to ground. If the - terminal glows, the - circuit is open. JR How does a terminal glow? Rob So, if the points are not shorted or closed, and the OP is getting ~12 volts with a test lamp at the (+) & (-) terminals of the coil, where is the ground/negative return for this circuit? Rob |
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points closed completes the circuit.
Jim "trainfan1" wrote in message ... JR North wrote: The test lamp ON the terminal.....tap, tap, tap JR trainfan1 wrote: JR North wrote: BBBZZZZZZTTTTTT! If the points are shorted, the - terminal won't glow-the current all goes to ground. If the - terminal glows, the - circuit is open. JR How does a terminal glow? Rob So, if the points are not shorted or closed, and the OP is getting ~12 volts with a test lamp at the (+) & (-) terminals of the coil, where is the ground/negative return for this circuit? Rob |
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Jim wrote:
points closed completes the circuit. Jim Right, So, if the points are not shorted or closed, and the OP is getting ~12 volts with a test lamp at the (+) & (-) terminals of the coil, where is the ground/negative return for this circuit? The OP also says his "hot" circuit does not continue across the points, which would indicates the points are not closing. Rob |
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There isn't a ground return. That's why he reads the same voltage
everywhere. He is reading the total circuit voltage across an open circuit.The points must not be set right or the contacts are contaminated. I think we are saying the same thing different ways. Jim "trainfan1" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: points closed completes the circuit. Jim Right, So, if the points are not shorted or closed, and the OP is getting ~12 volts with a test lamp at the (+) & (-) terminals of the coil, where is the ground/negative return for this circuit? The OP also says his "hot" circuit does not continue across the points, which would indicates the points are not closing. Rob |
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