On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 09:03:24 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:47:15 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Jack Goff wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:44:56 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Jack Goff wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 21:58:31 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


It's too bad you are married, Herring. You and Karen Smith would make
the ideal couple in so many ways.
As you and Ann Coulter seem "just right".

Doubtful. I don't have much use for bleached, skinny, hyper, racist,
teatless blondes.
It's not about looks, Harry. You two have the same disposition. Your
personalities just "fit". :-)
Jack,
I don't read all of Harry's posts, but from what I have seen Harry has
gone out of his way to avoid most of the personal attacks that used to
be rampant in rec.boats.

Rec.boats is a better place whenever someone holds off making any
inflammatory personal attacks. I enjoy reading most of Harry's posts
today, because the majority are either boating related or friendly and
non inflammatory.

You must have missed Harry's post to me a couple hours ago.
--
John H

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JohnH,
I saw it, but to be honest, I tend to ignore most of the threads between
you and Harry, because they are so predictable. From what I have seen
you and Harry both enjoy tweaking each other, and neither party can
assume all of the guilt or innocence.

Thanks. I didn't realize my response to Karen was a 'tweak' to Harry, but I
suppose it's all in one's perspective.

I *do* agree that Harry has, for the most part, made an attempt to curtail
the name-calling and offensive behavior, as he has with the political crap.
For that, a big "Thank You, Harry" is definitely in order.
--
John H

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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:29:25 -0400, Wayne.B penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 01:22:13 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:

what is a drill bit and in

An object commonly referred to as a "drill" except by machinists..

what appurtenance is it used????

A drill chuck which is an appurtenance to a drill motor.

Nope! Bits are not used in drill motors....

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.


My guess:

Drill bit is a drill with a long, tapered shank. The appurtenance is the
collar or whatever it is that the shank slips into.
Used on machine tools like Bridgeports, large drill presses, etc.

???

Eisboch

www.eisboch.com

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 09:03:24 -0400, Reginald P. Smithers III penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

...because they are so predictable. From what I have seen
you and Harry both enjoy tweaking each other, ...

Like children..... I think they are tweaking each other's twanger....
now, if they would just learn to play ball together..... as in....
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/rainbowkidsshow.html



Now, that's funny and I don't care who you are.... :-)

Let's all pluck away.

--
Reggie

That's my story and I am sticking to it!

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:13:38 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


Ok, Oh Wise One - what is it?

A "bit" is a drilling tool with a square shank as used with a "bit
stock" or better known as a "brace"....... as in "brace and bit."

Next weird question. What can you use to drill a triangular, square,
or hexagonal hole?

N Jnggf Qevyy!

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats



http://www.integerspin.co.uk/polygon.htm

Gene Kearns wrote:

Wise decision. Any REAL sailor knows that Rum is much more
appropriate!


Ah!

Lord Nelsons blood!

FREDO wrote:
Karen,

I am looking at a 2004 Alumacraft 17.5 foot boat with a 115 Evinrude Ficht
motor. This boat and motor has about 200 hours on it.
Should I really be worried?
Didn't most of these motors that were bad "blow up" within a few hours when
new? Also I seem to remember reading in this N/G that if they got past the
first few hours of operation without breaking you probably had a good
engine.
What percentage of failures did the manufacturers have?
Weren't the bigger motors, i.e..; 200 hp and above really the majority of
the problems.



OBTW 3 weeks fishing starts today!!!!!!!!!!! No more inspecting new
cars for 3 weeks!!!!
Nothing but wind, water, good friends, fishing, and a little beer ;-)

Fredo



No I don't think you should be "really" worried because is does seem
that the smaller Fichts faired better & on boats like that didn't seem
to subject the engine to wide throttle openings below say 2000 rpm.

It never was that ALL Fichts failed they admitted 1 in 5 & I suspect
that was a fudge but it never was all of them.

Of course that shouldn't stop you raising the Ficht issue as a major
bargaining chip:-) After all when you go to sell it somebody will use it
against your asking price. If the boat can be had at price you like
............ why not.


K







"K. Smith" wrote in message
...

The E-Tec range of OB engines are now getting sold in numbers into
various markets & their ads are a total pain. So some anti-ads are in
order.

In our opinion E-Tec have the potential to be an even bigger
consumer disaster than the first time when they were called Ficht &
marketed in the main by the same dealers/riggers who were then placarded
OMC.

The reasons for holding my opinions of what we say are E-Tecs design &
other problems are many, too many for one short NG post, they fall into
numerous categories any one of which, on it's own, is reason enough to
stay well away from them.

(i) The basic concept of running internal combustion engines with lean
mixtures at power, as opposed to overrun (doesn't happen in boats:-)),idle
or high speed very light throttle cruise (again doesn't happen in boats).

(ii) The Direct Fuel Injection (DFI)into the combustion chamber (DFI)

(iii) The fuel injector nozzle.

(iv) The fuel injector

(v) The oiling system

(vi) The ignition system.

(vii) The engine displacements.

(viii) The latest version changes.

(ix) The "potential" for union labour to be used to build them.

(x) The "potential" way the manufacture is funded

(xi) The dealers/suppliers involved & the way/amounts they get paid

(xii) The marketing claims

(xiii) The warranty.

(xiv) Common sense.

I'll make a series of posts dealing with each category & if
needs be sub category. Needless to say, similarly I tried to warn you
through this NG about our "opinions" that Ficht would fail, "before" it
had become the disaster it did.

I was viciously & personally attached in this NG by those mostly with a
vested interest in selling/supporting known defective Ficht engines to
consumers. The dealers of course, the union thugs who had the undeclared
invested interest in the funding of OMC & a gaggle of sad simpletons who,
despite ample warnings in this NG, had fallen into buying one & could only
try to deny the obvious to save some value to their boats & pride to there
ego. Alas all sunk along with OMC when it fetched up on Ficht reef. Save
one true fool who went the next step & just kept claiming he had bought
another one every time the subject came up, which would make him the most
stupid person ever into rec.boats, a seriously sad thing given some of the
simpletons we've had & still have here over the years:-) It's very
possible he's just making it up about
buying more of them because if he had, I doubt his brain stem would even
support cardiac functions & remember a heart continues to beat even
outside the body.

Before we go onto series 2 I better thank all those who responded to
series 1, thanks. I note there were no technical objections raised that
warrant my attention & I thank Del for his usual attention to detail on
running engines lean while at power.


SNIP

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:02:47 GMT, "FREDO" wrote:



Karen,


Um...first of all, Karen has no credentials, has never offered any
credentials or, for that matter, has any understanding of the
technology other than extrapolating on a problem that the 150/175 hp
FICHTS had which was rectified. And not all 150/175 engines had the
problem, but the problem was strictly related to 150/175 engines.

Secondly, I owned three FICHTS, a 200 and two 225s - I did have a
problem with the 200 that was unrelated to what Karen's screeds are
often about. The problem with the 200 was related here and as Bill
will tell you, is a problem that can occur to any engine and is so
rare to be almost nonexistent. Just law of averages kind of problem.

The FICHT technology is sound and extremely efficient.

I replaced the FICHTS with ETECS - two when I sold my old Contender 31
for a new one and I just replaced the 200 FICHT on my 20 foot Ranger
with a new 225 ETEC.

I am a strong believer in the technology and the proof in the pudding
is that other manufacturers are going back to two stroke tech out of
four stroke for a variety of reasons - one being the success of ETEC.

I am looking at a 2004 Alumacraft 17.5 foot boat with a 115 Evinrude Ficht
motor. This boat and motor has about 200 hours on it.


That's about 100 hrs per year which isn't all that much.


Should I really be worried?


No - absolutely not.


Didn't most of these motors that were bad "blow up" within a few hours when
new? Also I seem to remember reading in this N/G that if they got past the
first few hours of operation without breaking you probably had a good
engine.


Not true at all. They are sound and will work just fine.

The main thing is to have the engine checked out by a qualified
mechanic - have the engine hours checked, compression, etc. Spend the
money on an hour of shop time and have them tell you if it's good or
not.


What percentage of failures did the manufacturers have?
Weren't the bigger motors, i.e..; 200 hp and above really the majority of
the problems.


No - 150/175 which shared the same block.


OBTW 3 weeks fishing starts today!!!!!!!!!!! No more inspecting new
cars for 3 weeks!!!!
Nothing but wind, water, good friends, fishing, and a little beer ;-)


YAY!!!!

Although I do without the beer - I don't allow beer on my boats. :)


No comment:-)

K

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 05:58:49 +1000, "K. Smith" wrote:



I expect the abuse from the simpletons & they never disappoint:-)
however John H chipped me for the Krause lie?? It's really sad that John
has rolled over to this low life lying union bully, so just to remind
him who he's kissing up to & how sad & desperately lonely he must be to
allow it. I guess also it's time to wonder why bullying is a problem in
the armed forces & school systems??? when the teachers don't even have
the backbone to stand up for themselves??? Anyone can appease bullies
then deceive themselves into thinking they have a friend John, but
you've gotten into bed with the worst enemy known to all endeavours, a
lying union thug. I better post some of the lies Krause has told this NG
about you personally, I stress as always Krause is lying & any of us who
know & respect John H in this NG will confirm this is just more of the
Krause lies;



I 'chipped' you for the personal attack. The subject of the attack was
unimportant. It could have been anyone. The personal attack detracted from
your post, just as this comment and all the Harry posts detract from this
post. Trust me, I don't need reminders of the personal attacks made by
Harry, et al, in the group. They *all* deserve the same amount of
attention.
--
John H

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As you say John but I was trying to confirm my attitude to bullies &
simpletons like that one particularly, sorry if I've offended you, of
course if I posted some of this thrown at me by him & few others here
you say you've been getting off light.

I read what Chuck says & will keep it in mind.

All & all I think this went OK just the usual abuse from the usual
bullies but like the first one no actual technical challenges to what I
say.

The next E-Tec Problems one deals with the injector so expect the
runaway william to blow a head gasket:-).

K

On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 12:54:00 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:47:15 -0400, Reginald P. Smithers III penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

......from what I have seen Harry has
gone out of his way to avoid most of the personal attacks that used to
be rampant in rec.boats.....

I agree. This is self evident and laudable behavior. I've noticed new
"faces" and a renewed interest in boating chatter. I attribute this
almost solely to the abatement of OT vitriol.

I thank those others who have refrained.

Gene and Reggie, you guys crack me up. Or did you miss Harry's post:

It's too bad you are married, Herring. You and Karen Smith would make
the ideal couple in so many ways.

That's what I responded to, a post where Harry went out of his way to
*make* a personal attack. I guess in comparison to his behavior in
the past, where he's at today is a huge improvement. I'll try not to
slam your pet boy in the future, even if it is just throwing his crap
right back at him.

Jack Goff wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 12:54:00 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:47:15 -0400, Reginald P. Smithers III penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

......from what I have seen Harry has
gone out of his way to avoid most of the personal attacks that used to
be rampant in rec.boats.....
I agree. This is self evident and laudable behavior. I've noticed new
"faces" and a renewed interest in boating chatter. I attribute this
almost solely to the abatement of OT vitriol.

I thank those others who have refrained.

Gene and Reggie, you guys crack me up. Or did you miss Harry's post:

It's too bad you are married, Herring. You and Karen Smith would make
the ideal couple in so many ways.

That's what I responded to, a post where Harry went out of his way to
*make* a personal attack. I guess in comparison to his behavior in
the past, where he's at today is a huge improvement. I'll try not to
slam your pet boy in the future, even if it is just throwing his crap
right back at him.



Jack,
Harry is not my "pet boy", but if you really are interested in making
rec.boats a place to discuss boating and/or enjoy chatting with boaters
you really will ignore those posts you think are offensive. "Throwing
crap" back at someone who you think is offensive does nothing but fill
rec.boats up with crap. I am sure you have to agree with Gene's comment
about the new faces and renewed interest in boating topics.

--
Reggie

That's my story and I am sticking to it!