"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Stumbled into something on Saturday and tried 'em out last night.

WHOO HOO!!!

http://tinyurl.com/f3hpy

In Pearl/Gray, they are very attractive to stripers - big stripers. I
was totally surprised.

Boated and released a ton of blue too.

Good times.

Those things are delicious with dijon mustard.

Somewhat related: I'm reading more and more info lately (and not from anyone
even remotely involved with PETA) that catch & release does not work. The
mortality rate may be MUCH higher than we've thought for many years. It has
no relationship, either, to whether you use barbless hooks.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Stumbled into something on Saturday and tried 'em out last night.

WHOO HOO!!!

http://tinyurl.com/f3hpy

In Pearl/Gray, they are very attractive to stripers - big stripers. I
was totally surprised.

Boated and released a ton of blue too.

Good times.

Those things are delicious with dijon mustard.

Somewhat related: I'm reading more and more info lately (and not from anyone
even remotely involved with PETA) that catch & release does not work. The
mortality rate may be MUCH higher than we've thought for many years. It has
no relationship, either, to whether you use barbless hooks.


It seems the stress of the fight is too much for the fish. I have seen
many more dead fish floating around the lake in the past few years,
especially in the coves, as catch and release has become more popular.
I have actually seen a "catch and release" fish kill a fish that was not
caught. a 12" large mouth bass tried to eat a 24" large mouth that had
died (my assumption was caught and released) and the smaller fish died
because his eyes were bigger than his stomach.

As the popularity of fishing with light weight tackle increases, the
mortality rate among the catch and release increases substantially. It
seems if you can pull them in very quickly they stand a greater chance
of surviving, but who wants to catch a 5 lb fish with 50 lb tackle.
Fisherman need to start fishing with a chum line and then snapping
photos of their "catch".

I try to stay out of the "hunting" and "fishing" debate, but the Shark
tournament TV show makes me sick.

"Reginal P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Stumbled into something on Saturday and tried 'em out last night.

WHOO HOO!!!

http://tinyurl.com/f3hpy

In Pearl/Gray, they are very attractive to stripers - big stripers. I
was totally surprised.

Boated and released a ton of blue too.

Good times.

Those things are delicious with dijon mustard.

Somewhat related: I'm reading more and more info lately (and not from
anyone even remotely involved with PETA) that catch & release does not
work. The mortality rate may be MUCH higher than we've thought for many
years. It has no relationship, either, to whether you use barbless hooks.
It seems the stress of the fight is too much for the fish. I have seen
many more dead fish floating around the lake in the past few years,
especially in the coves, as catch and release has become more popular. I
have actually seen a "catch and release" fish kill a fish that was not
caught. a 12" large mouth bass tried to eat a 24" large mouth that had
died (my assumption was caught and released) and the smaller fish died
because his eyes were bigger than his stomach.

As the popularity of fishing with light weight tackle increases, the
mortality rate among the catch and release increases substantially. It
seems if you can pull them in very quickly they stand a greater chance of
surviving, but who wants to catch a 5 lb fish with 50 lb tackle. Fisherman
need to start fishing with a chum line and then snapping photos of their
"catch".

I try to stay out of the "hunting" and "fishing" debate, but the Shark
tournament TV show makes me sick.

Frankly, I don't see the attraction of light tackle for big fish. I mean, I
unexpectedly caught a huge pike on 4 lb test once. What did that prove? It
certainly was not a personal achievment of MINE. It illustrated only two
things:
-Berkley makes great 4 lb line (which I had nothing to do with)
-The line didn't get near any sharp fish parts and get cut, which is a
matter of chance. You could say "You did a great job of keeping it away from
the gill covers", but the water was muddy. I couldn't see the fish at all.

So, why risk having the line break, leaving a fish with a treble hook in its
throat? And that bull**** about "The hooks will rust away - the fish will be
fine" - it's a crock. Yeah, the hooks will rust eventually, but meanwhile,
that fish won't be able to eat with a 6" Rapala and two sets of treble hooks
in its face.

I've reached the point where I won't fish for anything that I have no
intention of eating. And, if I catch enough, I stop and read a book. If I
had a live well and could make sure the fish were recovered enough to move
(so enough water will pass through their gills), I might do things
differently.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Reginal P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Stumbled into something on Saturday and tried 'em out last night.

WHOO HOO!!!

http://tinyurl.com/f3hpy

In Pearl/Gray, they are very attractive to stripers - big stripers. I
was totally surprised.

Boated and released a ton of blue too.

Good times.
Those things are delicious with dijon mustard.

Somewhat related: I'm reading more and more info lately (and not from
anyone even remotely involved with PETA) that catch & release does not
work. The mortality rate may be MUCH higher than we've thought for many
years. It has no relationship, either, to whether you use barbless hooks.
It seems the stress of the fight is too much for the fish. I have seen
many more dead fish floating around the lake in the past few years,
especially in the coves, as catch and release has become more popular. I
have actually seen a "catch and release" fish kill a fish that was not
caught. a 12" large mouth bass tried to eat a 24" large mouth that had
died (my assumption was caught and released) and the smaller fish died
because his eyes were bigger than his stomach.

As the popularity of fishing with light weight tackle increases, the
mortality rate among the catch and release increases substantially. It
seems if you can pull them in very quickly they stand a greater chance of
surviving, but who wants to catch a 5 lb fish with 50 lb tackle. Fisherman
need to start fishing with a chum line and then snapping photos of their
"catch".

I try to stay out of the "hunting" and "fishing" debate, but the Shark
tournament TV show makes me sick.

Frankly, I don't see the attraction of light tackle for big fish. I mean, I
unexpectedly caught a huge pike on 4 lb test once. What did that prove? It
certainly was not a personal achievment of MINE. It illustrated only two
things:
-Berkley makes great 4 lb line (which I had nothing to do with)
-The line didn't get near any sharp fish parts and get cut, which is a
matter of chance. You could say "You did a great job of keeping it away from
the gill covers", but the water was muddy. I couldn't see the fish at all.

So, why risk having the line break, leaving a fish with a treble hook in its
throat? And that bull**** about "The hooks will rust away - the fish will be
fine" - it's a crock. Yeah, the hooks will rust eventually, but meanwhile,
that fish won't be able to eat with a 6" Rapala and two sets of treble hooks
in its face.

I've reached the point where I won't fish for anything that I have no
intention of eating. And, if I catch enough, I stop and read a book. If I
had a live well and could make sure the fish were recovered enough to move
(so enough water will pass through their gills), I might do things
differently.


I really do enjoy just being outside. My favorite time of the year is
early spring and late fall, when the lake is quiet. I can go up with a
book. I used to enjoy beer, now I just go up with bottled water and
enjoy mother nature. Now that I have a new Photographer hobby, I can
take some photos of the birds flying south for the winter. I do enjoy
eating fish and meat, so i have always steered cleared of the guns
debates and hunting and fishing debates, but I wish people would catch
what they wanted to eat, and then sat back and just enjoyed the sights,
sounds and smells of mother nature.

Since no on in my family listens to me, I really don't expect anyone in
this NG to listen either.

Reginal P. Smithers III wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Reginal P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

Stumbled into something on Saturday and tried 'em out last night.

WHOO HOO!!!

http://tinyurl.com/f3hpy

In Pearl/Gray, they are very attractive to stripers - big stripers. I
was totally surprised.

Boated and released a ton of blue too.

Good times.

Those things are delicious with dijon mustard.

Somewhat related: I'm reading more and more info lately (and not
from anyone even remotely involved with PETA) that catch & release
does not work. The mortality rate may be MUCH higher than we've
thought for many years. It has no relationship, either, to whether
you use barbless hooks.

It seems the stress of the fight is too much for the fish. I have
seen many more dead fish floating around the lake in the past few
years, especially in the coves, as catch and release has become more
popular. I have actually seen a "catch and release" fish kill a fish
that was not caught. a 12" large mouth bass tried to eat a 24" large
mouth that had died (my assumption was caught and released) and the
smaller fish died because his eyes were bigger than his stomach.

As the popularity of fishing with light weight tackle increases, the
mortality rate among the catch and release increases substantially.
It seems if you can pull them in very quickly they stand a greater
chance of surviving, but who wants to catch a 5 lb fish with 50 lb
tackle. Fisherman need to start fishing with a chum line and then
snapping photos of their "catch".

I try to stay out of the "hunting" and "fishing" debate, but the
Shark tournament TV show makes me sick.


Frankly, I don't see the attraction of light tackle for big fish. I
mean, I unexpectedly caught a huge pike on 4 lb test once. What did
that prove? It certainly was not a personal achievment of MINE. It
illustrated only two things:
-Berkley makes great 4 lb line (which I had nothing to do with)
-The line didn't get near any sharp fish parts and get cut, which is a
matter of chance. You could say "You did a great job of keeping it
away from the gill covers", but the water was muddy. I couldn't see
the fish at all.

So, why risk having the line break, leaving a fish with a treble hook
in its throat? And that bull**** about "The hooks will rust away - the
fish will be fine" - it's a crock. Yeah, the hooks will rust
eventually, but meanwhile, that fish won't be able to eat with a 6"
Rapala and two sets of treble hooks in its face.

I've reached the point where I won't fish for anything that I have no
intention of eating. And, if I catch enough, I stop and read a book.
If I had a live well and could make sure the fish were recovered
enough to move (so enough water will pass through their gills), I
might do things differently.

I really do enjoy just being outside. My favorite time of the year is
early spring and late fall, when the lake is quiet. I can go up with a
book. I used to enjoy beer, now I just go up with bottled water and
enjoy mother nature. Now that I have a new Photographer hobby, I can
take some photos of the birds flying south for the winter. I do enjoy
eating fish and meat, so i have always steered cleared of the guns
debates and hunting and fishing debates, but I wish people would catch
what they wanted to eat, and then sat back and just enjoyed the sights,
sounds and smells of mother nature.

Since no on in my family listens to me, I really don't expect anyone in
this NG to listen either.


We listen... we just don't pay any attention...........

Don White wrote:
Reginal P. Smithers III wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Reginal P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

Stumbled into something on Saturday and tried 'em out last night.

WHOO HOO!!!

http://tinyurl.com/f3hpy

In Pearl/Gray, they are very attractive to stripers - big
stripers. I
was totally surprised.

Boated and released a ton of blue too.

Good times.

Those things are delicious with dijon mustard.

Somewhat related: I'm reading more and more info lately (and not
from anyone even remotely involved with PETA) that catch & release
does not work. The mortality rate may be MUCH higher than we've
thought for many years. It has no relationship, either, to whether
you use barbless hooks.

It seems the stress of the fight is too much for the fish. I have
seen many more dead fish floating around the lake in the past few
years, especially in the coves, as catch and release has become more
popular. I have actually seen a "catch and release" fish kill a fish
that was not caught. a 12" large mouth bass tried to eat a 24"
large mouth that had died (my assumption was caught and released)
and the smaller fish died because his eyes were bigger than his
stomach.

As the popularity of fishing with light weight tackle increases, the
mortality rate among the catch and release increases substantially.
It seems if you can pull them in very quickly they stand a greater
chance of surviving, but who wants to catch a 5 lb fish with 50 lb
tackle. Fisherman need to start fishing with a chum line and then
snapping photos of their "catch".

I try to stay out of the "hunting" and "fishing" debate, but the
Shark tournament TV show makes me sick.


Frankly, I don't see the attraction of light tackle for big fish. I
mean, I unexpectedly caught a huge pike on 4 lb test once. What did
that prove? It certainly was not a personal achievment of MINE. It
illustrated only two things:
-Berkley makes great 4 lb line (which I had nothing to do with)
-The line didn't get near any sharp fish parts and get cut, which is
a matter of chance. You could say "You did a great job of keeping it
away from the gill covers", but the water was muddy. I couldn't see
the fish at all.

So, why risk having the line break, leaving a fish with a treble hook
in its throat? And that bull**** about "The hooks will rust away -
the fish will be fine" - it's a crock. Yeah, the hooks will rust
eventually, but meanwhile, that fish won't be able to eat with a 6"
Rapala and two sets of treble hooks in its face.

I've reached the point where I won't fish for anything that I have no
intention of eating. And, if I catch enough, I stop and read a book.
If I had a live well and could make sure the fish were recovered
enough to move (so enough water will pass through their gills), I
might do things differently.

I really do enjoy just being outside. My favorite time of the year is
early spring and late fall, when the lake is quiet. I can go up with
a book. I used to enjoy beer, now I just go up with bottled water and
enjoy mother nature. Now that I have a new Photographer hobby, I can
take some photos of the birds flying south for the winter. I do
enjoy eating fish and meat, so i have always steered cleared of the
guns debates and hunting and fishing debates, but I wish people would
catch what they wanted to eat, and then sat back and just enjoyed the
sights, sounds and smells of mother nature.

Since no on in my family listens to me, I really don't expect anyone
in this NG to listen either.


We listen... we just don't pay any attention...........


Just like everyone in my family.

I hope I don't have to pay for anyone else to go to college.

On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 12:49:08 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Reginal P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Stumbled into something on Saturday and tried 'em out last night.

WHOO HOO!!!

http://tinyurl.com/f3hpy

In Pearl/Gray, they are very attractive to stripers - big stripers. I
was totally surprised.

Boated and released a ton of blue too.

Good times.

Those things are delicious with dijon mustard.

Somewhat related: I'm reading more and more info lately (and not from
anyone even remotely involved with PETA) that catch & release does not
work. The mortality rate may be MUCH higher than we've thought for many
years. It has no relationship, either, to whether you use barbless hooks.
It seems the stress of the fight is too much for the fish. I have seen
many more dead fish floating around the lake in the past few years,
especially in the coves, as catch and release has become more popular. I
have actually seen a "catch and release" fish kill a fish that was not
caught. a 12" large mouth bass tried to eat a 24" large mouth that had
died (my assumption was caught and released) and the smaller fish died
because his eyes were bigger than his stomach.

As the popularity of fishing with light weight tackle increases, the
mortality rate among the catch and release increases substantially. It
seems if you can pull them in very quickly they stand a greater chance of
surviving, but who wants to catch a 5 lb fish with 50 lb tackle. Fisherman
need to start fishing with a chum line and then snapping photos of their
"catch".

I try to stay out of the "hunting" and "fishing" debate, but the Shark
tournament TV show makes me sick.

Frankly, I don't see the attraction of light tackle for big fish. I mean, I
unexpectedly caught a huge pike on 4 lb test once. What did that prove? It
certainly was not a personal achievment of MINE. It illustrated only two
things:
-Berkley makes great 4 lb line (which I had nothing to do with)
-The line didn't get near any sharp fish parts and get cut, which is a
matter of chance. You could say "You did a great job of keeping it away from
the gill covers", but the water was muddy. I couldn't see the fish at all.

So, why risk having the line break, leaving a fish with a treble hook in its
throat? And that bull**** about "The hooks will rust away - the fish will be
fine" - it's a crock. Yeah, the hooks will rust eventually, but meanwhile,
that fish won't be able to eat with a 6" Rapala and two sets of treble hooks
in its face.

I've reached the point where I won't fish for anything that I have no
intention of eating. And, if I catch enough, I stop and read a book. If I
had a live well and could make sure the fish were recovered enough to move
(so enough water will pass through their gills), I might do things
differently.


My thoughts exactly. Catch what you'll eat, and go home.
--
******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

John

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Stumbled into something on Saturday and tried 'em out last night.

WHOO HOO!!!

http://tinyurl.com/f3hpy

In Pearl/Gray, they are very attractive to stripers - big stripers. I
was totally surprised.

Boated and released a ton of blue too.

Good times.

Those things are delicious with dijon mustard.

Somewhat related: I'm reading more and more info lately (and not from
anyone even remotely involved with PETA) that catch & release does not
work. The mortality rate may be MUCH higher than we've thought for many
years. It has no relationship, either, to whether you use barbless hooks.


Mortality rate is lots less than catch and release into 350 degree oil.
Sure there is a mortality from C&R, and lots do not do a good release. They
abuse the fish when ripping the hook from the fish. The California F&G has
done a lot of C&R testing, and they do not see an excess amount of loss.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Stumbled into something on Saturday and tried 'em out last night.

WHOO HOO!!!

http://tinyurl.com/f3hpy

In Pearl/Gray, they are very attractive to stripers - big stripers. I
was totally surprised.

Boated and released a ton of blue too.

Good times.

Those things are delicious with dijon mustard.

Somewhat related: I'm reading more and more info lately (and not from
anyone even remotely involved with PETA) that catch & release does not
work. The mortality rate may be MUCH higher than we've thought for many
years. It has no relationship, either, to whether you use barbless hooks.


Mortality rate is lots less than catch and release into 350 degree oil.
Sure there is a mortality from C&R, and lots do not do a good release.
They abuse the fish when ripping the hook from the fish. The California
F&G has done a lot of C&R testing, and they do not see an excess amount of
loss.

I wonder how they tested.

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Stumbled into something on Saturday and tried 'em out last night.

WHOO HOO!!!

http://tinyurl.com/f3hpy

In Pearl/Gray, they are very attractive to stripers - big stripers. I
was totally surprised.

Boated and released a ton of blue too.

Good times.

Those things are delicious with dijon mustard.

Somewhat related: I'm reading more and more info lately (and not from
anyone even remotely involved with PETA) that catch & release does not
work. The mortality rate may be MUCH higher than we've thought for many
years. It has no relationship, either, to whether you use barbless
hooks.


Mortality rate is lots less than catch and release into 350 degree oil.
Sure there is a mortality from C&R, and lots do not do a good release.
They abuse the fish when ripping the hook from the fish. The California
F&G has done a lot of C&R testing, and they do not see an excess amount
of loss.

I wonder how they tested.


Couple of different ways. one with tagged fish and another with salmon in
pens.