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Please try to help further diagnose what is causing this. There is more
information this time to work with. We have an 8,000# Magnum 'HD' piling-mount cradle boat lift with what I think appears to be a slight "bunk buoyancy" problem. When the lift is down in the water near the bottom of its travel with no boat weight on it yet and I start to bring the lift up, the cables on both inboard sheaves (pulleys) start to get a bit slack (especially bad on the right inboard side) while the outboard cables stay nice and taught. As a result, the inboard (1/4" cables) don't always windup on the winder spool without a bit of "criss-cross" unless I keep some downward pressure on the PVC upright pipes. We operate in sal****er and have a pontoon boat on the lift with 3"x12"x20' wooden bunks. I experimented once while the boat was away from the lift just to see what was going on and the problem definitely goes away the moment the wooden bunks get above the waterline. The inboard cables get tight again and everything spools fine. Checked by lowering the beams down just to the waterline, the lift is very nearly level (only one inch higher one the inboard side) from an inboard/outboard perspective. I have checked and none of the sheaves are stuck. I added 80 pounds of weight nearest the pulley/sheave on the right inboard side which has "band-aided" the problem some, but has not "cured" the problem. I am seeking the CAUSE of this problem. Two Questions: 1. Why do just the inboard cables get slack? 2. Why does just primarily the right-hand inboard cable get even more slack than the left inboard-cable?? Your help appreciated. Chuck Lift installation diagram for reference: http://www.lunmar.com/commerce/asset...de/maghd-1.htm |
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I just now noticed that the below instructions say that when installed, the
outboard end of the lifting beams should be 3 INCHES higher than the inboard end. Why is that and is this related to the inboard cable slack problem?? http://www.lunmar.com/commerce/asset...de/maghd-1.htm |
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![]() Chuck wrote: Please try to help further diagnose what is causing this. There is more information this time to work with. We have an 8,000# Magnum 'HD' piling-mount cradle boat lift with what I think appears to be a slight "bunk buoyancy" problem. When the lift is down in the water near the bottom of its travel with no boat weight on it yet and I start to bring the lift up, the cables on both inboard sheaves (pulleys) start to get a bit slack (especially bad on the right inboard side) while the outboard cables stay nice and taught. As a result, the inboard (1/4" cables) don't always windup on the winder spool without a bit of "criss-cross" unless I keep some downward pressure on the PVC upright pipes. We operate in sal****er and have a pontoon boat on the lift with 3"x12"x20' wooden bunks. I experimented once while the boat was away from the lift just to see what was going on and the problem definitely goes away the moment the wooden bunks get above the waterline. The inboard cables get tight again and everything spools fine. Checked by lowering the beams down just to the waterline, the lift is very nearly level (only one inch higher one the inboard side) from an inboard/outboard perspective. I have checked and none of the sheaves are stuck. I added 80 pounds of weight nearest the pulley/sheave on the right inboard side which has "band-aided" the problem some, but has not "cured" the problem. I am seeking the CAUSE of this problem. Two Questions: 1. Why do just the inboard cables get slack? 2. Why does just primarily the right-hand inboard cable get even more slack than the left inboard-cable?? Your help appreciated. Chuck Lift installation diagram for reference: http://www.lunmar.com/commerce/asset...de/maghd-1.htm IMHO!!! What a bizaar design. I live on the water in Florida and have worked on many of my neighbors lifts but have never seen this design. After studing the design of your lift I can easily see why your having this problem when you have no load on the beams. It is easier to see if you take a look at the drawing in your link titled INBOARD AND OUTBOARD CABLE RUN. When you start to raise your lift, the cable going to the outboard side has to lift first on the inboard pully before it can get any lift on the outboard main beam. I know, you think both cables are lifting at the same time so there should never be any slace on the inboard cable, but because the inboard beam is being lifted by the inboard cable - the outboard cable also has to lift the inboard cable just go get tension on it so that it can lift the outboard end of the beam. This looks to be an inherent design flaw. I say flaw because even if you are lifting your boat, when you first start to lift your boat it is floating and the inboard cable is going to do this all the time. Just grab the outboard cable and try to lift the outboard end of the beam and you will see what I mean. I see this very clearly but don't know if I've explained it properly. All the boat lifts in my area have a motor mounted of the outboard and the inboard side and each motor lifts one side of the boat or the other. Your lift keeps both motors on the inboard "land" side and lifts either the bow or the stern. Looks good on paper. I think the only way to defeat this design flaw is to add whatever weight is required to the inboard end of the main beams to stop the outboard cable from lifting the inboard side of the beam. Again, this is IMHO! ELDON |
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