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Hello there,

I have a question about a problem with my 10 year old Mercruiser 5.7
litre (Carb) motor.

When using the boat for the first 30 minutes or so it runs
fantastically smooth - perfect. After that it starts to backfire and
soon will only drive (roughly) at idle speed. If you turn the engine
off and give it a rest for awhile, it will run fine for a bit when its
turned back on (it seems to run better for longer if the engine has
been off longer).

Took the boat out yesterday and when the problem started up I tried
opening up the fuel cap to see if a vacuum was building up in the tank
due to a blocked vent but it wasn't the problem. I also took the fuel
filter off and poured the petrol inside into pot to see what was in
there - there was a small amount of crud but definitely no water.

I don't think the engine is overheating as I can always put my hands on
the exhaust elbows without finding it too hot. Also, all the filters,
ignition leads, distributor and rotor have been replaced recently.

It appears to me to be some kind of fuel starvation but you folks might
know better. Can any of you help?

Thanks in advance,
Paul.

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Maybe overheating. The exhaust manifolds are not a sure test. Poor
running from overheating is because the head and block around the
combustion chamber get too hot and cause detonation. Does it run on,
diesel, when you shut it down while running bad? What does the temp
gauge say? When did you last replace the fresh water pump impeller?

Make sure the timing is correct. If it is, one thing to try is setting
the initial timing to less advance. It could be developing detonation
after it gets hot. Are you using premium gas? These older boat
engines sometimes need premium.

It could also be vapor lock. Ethanol contributes to vapor lock. Make
sure the gas lines are routed away from direct contact with the engine.
A 1/2" fiber carb spacer often helps with vapor lock.

paul78 wrote:
Hello there,

I have a question about a problem with my 10 year old Mercruiser 5.7
litre (Carb) motor.

When using the boat for the first 30 minutes or so it runs
fantastically smooth - perfect. After that it starts to backfire and
soon will only drive (roughly) at idle speed. If you turn the engine
off and give it a rest for awhile, it will run fine for a bit when its
turned back on (it seems to run better for longer if the engine has
been off longer).

Took the boat out yesterday and when the problem started up I tried
opening up the fuel cap to see if a vacuum was building up in the tank
due to a blocked vent but it wasn't the problem. I also took the fuel
filter off and poured the petrol inside into pot to see what was in
there - there was a small amount of crud but definitely no water.

I don't think the engine is overheating as I can always put my hands on
the exhaust elbows without finding it too hot. Also, all the filters,
ignition leads, distributor and rotor have been replaced recently.

It appears to me to be some kind of fuel starvation but you folks might
know better. Can any of you help?

Thanks in advance,
Paul.


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Default Mercruiser 5.7 backfiring

Thanks for that James - will definitely give your suggestions a go.

Also, I think I used the word "backfiring" wrongly when I was writing
the first message. It seems to be defined as when the fuel/air mixture
ignites with either an inlet or exhaust valve open. I'm not sure if
that is what my engine is doing; I reckon it is "spluttering" rather
than "backfiring". Sorry for any confusion caused.

Would love to hear any more suggestions from any of you people out
there...

Thanks and all the best,
Paul.

jamesgangnc wrote:

Maybe overheating. The exhaust manifolds are not a sure test. Poor
running from overheating is because the head and block around the
combustion chamber get too hot and cause detonation. Does it run on,
diesel, when you shut it down while running bad? What does the temp
gauge say? When did you last replace the fresh water pump impeller?

Make sure the timing is correct. If it is, one thing to try is setting
the initial timing to less advance. It could be developing detonation
after it gets hot. Are you using premium gas? These older boat
engines sometimes need premium.

It could also be vapor lock. Ethanol contributes to vapor lock. Make
sure the gas lines are routed away from direct contact with the engine.
A 1/2" fiber carb spacer often helps with vapor lock.

paul78 wrote:
Hello there,

I have a question about a problem with my 10 year old Mercruiser 5.7
litre (Carb) motor.

When using the boat for the first 30 minutes or so it runs
fantastically smooth - perfect. After that it starts to backfire and
soon will only drive (roughly) at idle speed. If you turn the engine
off and give it a rest for awhile, it will run fine for a bit when its
turned back on (it seems to run better for longer if the engine has
been off longer).

Took the boat out yesterday and when the problem started up I tried
opening up the fuel cap to see if a vacuum was building up in the tank
due to a blocked vent but it wasn't the problem. I also took the fuel
filter off and poured the petrol inside into pot to see what was in
there - there was a small amount of crud but definitely no water.

I don't think the engine is overheating as I can always put my hands on
the exhaust elbows without finding it too hot. Also, all the filters,
ignition leads, distributor and rotor have been replaced recently.

It appears to me to be some kind of fuel starvation but you folks might
know better. Can any of you help?

Thanks in advance,
Paul.


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Yes, I figured you really meant it was missing and running rough.

paul78 wrote:
Thanks for that James - will definitely give your suggestions a go.

Also, I think I used the word "backfiring" wrongly when I was writing
the first message. It seems to be defined as when the fuel/air mixture
ignites with either an inlet or exhaust valve open. I'm not sure if
that is what my engine is doing; I reckon it is "spluttering" rather
than "backfiring". Sorry for any confusion caused.

Would love to hear any more suggestions from any of you people out
there...

Thanks and all the best,
Paul.

jamesgangnc wrote:

Maybe overheating. The exhaust manifolds are not a sure test. Poor
running from overheating is because the head and block around the
combustion chamber get too hot and cause detonation. Does it run on,
diesel, when you shut it down while running bad? What does the temp
gauge say? When did you last replace the fresh water pump impeller?

Make sure the timing is correct. If it is, one thing to try is setting
the initial timing to less advance. It could be developing detonation
after it gets hot. Are you using premium gas? These older boat
engines sometimes need premium.

It could also be vapor lock. Ethanol contributes to vapor lock. Make
sure the gas lines are routed away from direct contact with the engine.
A 1/2" fiber carb spacer often helps with vapor lock.

paul78 wrote:
Hello there,

I have a question about a problem with my 10 year old Mercruiser 5.7
litre (Carb) motor.

When using the boat for the first 30 minutes or so it runs
fantastically smooth - perfect. After that it starts to backfire and
soon will only drive (roughly) at idle speed. If you turn the engine
off and give it a rest for awhile, it will run fine for a bit when its
turned back on (it seems to run better for longer if the engine has
been off longer).

Took the boat out yesterday and when the problem started up I tried
opening up the fuel cap to see if a vacuum was building up in the tank
due to a blocked vent but it wasn't the problem. I also took the fuel
filter off and poured the petrol inside into pot to see what was in
there - there was a small amount of crud but definitely no water.

I don't think the engine is overheating as I can always put my hands on
the exhaust elbows without finding it too hot. Also, all the filters,
ignition leads, distributor and rotor have been replaced recently.

It appears to me to be some kind of fuel starvation but you folks might
know better. Can any of you help?

Thanks in advance,
Paul.


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Thanks for all your help.

I had a quick look at every problem that was suggested and I found that
the ignition coil was looking abit the worse for wear. When I took it
off the engine I could hear something clattering around inside. I
replaced the coil and the problem seems to have disappeared.

Me and my boat are now getting on again!

Thanks again,
Paul.

paul78 wrote:
Thanks for that James - will definitely give your suggestions a go.

Also, I think I used the word "backfiring" wrongly when I was writing
the first message. It seems to be defined as when the fuel/air mixture
ignites with either an inlet or exhaust valve open. I'm not sure if
that is what my engine is doing; I reckon it is "spluttering" rather
than "backfiring". Sorry for any confusion caused.

Would love to hear any more suggestions from any of you people out
there...

Thanks and all the best,
Paul.

jamesgangnc wrote:

Maybe overheating. The exhaust manifolds are not a sure test. Poor
running from overheating is because the head and block around the
combustion chamber get too hot and cause detonation. Does it run on,
diesel, when you shut it down while running bad? What does the temp
gauge say? When did you last replace the fresh water pump impeller?

Make sure the timing is correct. If it is, one thing to try is setting
the initial timing to less advance. It could be developing detonation
after it gets hot. Are you using premium gas? These older boat
engines sometimes need premium.

It could also be vapor lock. Ethanol contributes to vapor lock. Make
sure the gas lines are routed away from direct contact with the engine.
A 1/2" fiber carb spacer often helps with vapor lock.

paul78 wrote:
Hello there,

I have a question about a problem with my 10 year old Mercruiser 5.7
litre (Carb) motor.

When using the boat for the first 30 minutes or so it runs
fantastically smooth - perfect. After that it starts to backfire and
soon will only drive (roughly) at idle speed. If you turn the engine
off and give it a rest for awhile, it will run fine for a bit when its
turned back on (it seems to run better for longer if the engine has
been off longer).

Took the boat out yesterday and when the problem started up I tried
opening up the fuel cap to see if a vacuum was building up in the tank
due to a blocked vent but it wasn't the problem. I also took the fuel
filter off and poured the petrol inside into pot to see what was in
there - there was a small amount of crud but definitely no water.

I don't think the engine is overheating as I can always put my hands on
the exhaust elbows without finding it too hot. Also, all the filters,
ignition leads, distributor and rotor have been replaced recently.

It appears to me to be some kind of fuel starvation but you folks might
know better. Can any of you help?

Thanks in advance,
Paul.




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poor fuel flow to carb-filters including one if they still put it in the
carb inlet fitting.
fuel tank pickup screen??
distributor cap. rotor, wires.


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Hello there,

I have a question about a problem with my 10 year old Mercruiser 5.7
litre (Carb) motor.

When using the boat for the first 30 minutes or so it runs
fantastically smooth - perfect. After that it starts to backfire and
soon will only drive (roughly) at idle speed. If you turn the engine
off and give it a rest for awhile, it will run fine for a bit when its
turned back on (it seems to run better for longer if the engine has
been off longer).

Took the boat out yesterday and when the problem started up I tried
opening up the fuel cap to see if a vacuum was building up in the tank
due to a blocked vent but it wasn't the problem. I also took the fuel
filter off and poured the petrol inside into pot to see what was in
there - there was a small amount of crud but definitely no water.

I don't think the engine is overheating as I can always put my hands on
the exhaust elbows without finding it too hot. Also, all the filters,
ignition leads, distributor and rotor have been replaced recently.

It appears to me to be some kind of fuel starvation but you folks might
know better. Can any of you help?

Thanks in advance,
Paul.



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Could be an ignition coil going bad? I've seen them go bad in a
manner that you describe.

Eldon

paul78 wrote:
Hello there,

I have a question about a problem with my 10 year old Mercruiser 5.7
litre (Carb) motor.

When using the boat for the first 30 minutes or so it runs
fantastically smooth - perfect. After that it starts to backfire and
soon will only drive (roughly) at idle speed. If you turn the engine
off and give it a rest for awhile, it will run fine for a bit when its
turned back on (it seems to run better for longer if the engine has
been off longer).

Took the boat out yesterday and when the problem started up I tried
opening up the fuel cap to see if a vacuum was building up in the tank
due to a blocked vent but it wasn't the problem. I also took the fuel
filter off and poured the petrol inside into pot to see what was in
there - there was a small amount of crud but definitely no water.

I don't think the engine is overheating as I can always put my hands on
the exhaust elbows without finding it too hot. Also, all the filters,
ignition leads, distributor and rotor have been replaced recently.

It appears to me to be some kind of fuel starvation but you folks might
know better. Can any of you help?

Thanks in advance,
Paul.


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paul78 wote:
Hello there,

I have a question about a problem with my 10 year old Mercruiser 5.7
litre (Carb) motor.


I had a similar problem with my 1995 5.7 Mercruiser. It started
shortly after having it serviced. The shop could not find the problem.
It ran just fine when in the shop not under a load or hot. Finally,
someone spotted that the insulation had been removed from the fuel
line. We re-insulated it and the problem stopped completely. It has
been over a year since the problem.

Good luck.

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