I have been told that automotive synthetic oils (Mobil 1) should not be
used in a marine engine. I didn't hear the reasoning behind this statement.
Does anyone know why they should not be used?

Thanks JG




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I see no problem as long as the weight is correct. I use to run Mobil 1
20w-50 in my 5.7L Scarab for 10 years until it was sold. No problems..


"JG" wrote in message ...
I have been told that automotive synthetic oils (Mobil 1) should not be
used in a marine engine. I didn't hear the reasoning behind this
statement.
Does anyone know why they should not be used?

Thanks JG




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JG Writes

I have been told that automotive synthetic oils (Mobil 1) should not be
used in a marine engine. I didn't hear the reasoning behind this statement.
Does anyone know why they should not be used?

It has been argued that in high powered motorcycles with wet clutches
Mobil 1 would cause clutch slip. Do marine engines have wet clutches?

But have I used Mobil 1 and other fully and semi-synthetic motor oils in
several big bikes without a problem. The bikes 'seemed' to rev more
freely, but the most noticeable difference was with the gear changes
which were smoother and quieter.

Several years ago on a boring late shift at work, some friends and I did
our own little oil test. We centre-drilled a number of 6mm studs and
silver soldered 8mm ball bearings to each one. We then rotated them in a
milling machine onto a mild steel plate, using a weight on the quill to
ensure equal pressure. We used a range of oils from 10W/30 through gear
oil up to Mobil 1 and Rocal machining lubricant. Times to seizure ranged
from 10 seconds for the 10W/30 to 120 seconds for the Mobile 1. The
cutting lube kept going for ever.

What was interesting was when we used Mobil 1 for a few seconds, and
then wiped it dry, the ball still took over a minute to seize on the
residue.
I finally settled on a semi-synthetic for the bikes because it seemed to
work as well as the Mobile 1, but was half the cost.

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recommended for applications requiring the following specifications:

a.. API SJ, SH, SG, SF, CD, CF
b.. JASO MA
Use in Yamaha, Suzuki, Honda, Mercury, Kawasaki, Arctic Cat, Polaris, Nissan
and Bombardier motors and transmissions. Safe in wet or dry sumps.
Recommended for manual or automatic clutches.

PRODUCT DESCRIPTION

Resists High Temperature Vaporization
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TYPICAL TECHNICAL PROPERTIES

AMSOIL FORMULA 4-STROKE SYNTHETIC MOTOR OIL (AFF) SAE 0W-40



Kinematic Viscosity @ 100°C, cSt (ASTM D-445)
14.20

Kinematic Viscosity @ 40°C, cSt (ASTM D-445)
73.93


Viscosity Index (ASTM D-2270)
201
CCS Viscosity, cP @ (°C) (ASTM D2602)
5691
Flash Point °C (°F) (ASTM D 92)
228 (442)
Pour Point °C (°F) (ASTM D 97) -51 (-60)
Noack Volatility, % weight loss (g/100g) (ASTM D-5800)
11.63%
Four Ball Wear Test (ASTM D 4172 @ 40 kgf, 150°C, 1800 rpm, 1 hour,
Scar in mm)
0.40
Total Base Number 8.91



Applications and Recommendations
AMSOIL Formula 4-Stroke Synthetic Motor Oil may be used in all applications
specifying 0W-40, 5W-30, 10W-30 and 10W-40 viscosity grades and is
recommended for applications specifying the following:

.. API SJ, SH, SG, SF, CD, CF
.. JASO MA

Use in Yamaha®, Suzuki®, Honda®, Mercury®, Kawasaki®, Arctic Cat®, Polaris®,
Nissan® and Bombardier® motors and transmissions. Safe in wet or dry sumps.
Recommended for manual or automatic clutches.

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AMSOIL Formula 4-Stroke Synthetic Motor Oil is compatible with and
recommended for use with clutch plates in ATV's and motorcycle
transmissions.

Installation
Change AMSOIL Formula 4-Stroke Synthetic Motor Oil according to
manufacturer's recommendations, without oil filtration. With oil filtration
(AMSOIL SDF Filter), up to 2 times longer than manufacturer's
recommendations or 6 months, whichever comes first. If a Hastings or other
filter is used, filter should be changed at manufacturer's recommendations.

"JG" wrote in message ...
I have been told that automotive synthetic oils (Mobil 1) should not be
used in a marine engine. I didn't hear the reasoning behind this
statement.
Does anyone know why they should not be used?

Thanks JG




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