"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:28:48 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
wrote:

"Forge" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
"rigger" wrote:

To bad they all cheat, lie, steal, and break numerous other laws to get
what they want while depleting the social services of our country while
they do it.

Mm, yes, they're all just a bunch of ne'er-do-well brigands and thieves.

Um, except they're utterly ****ing not. Statistically they break laws
other than "you're not supposed to live here" just a tiny hair more than
people who were born here. Sorry.

Which, if you factor in an average economic class comparison, probably
makes them generally more law-abiding over-all.

Im still waiting for those cites to prove the claims of the pro
illegals.

Still waiting.

More waiting....

We'll be right along.

Would you mind holding your breath till we get there?

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:43:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.

Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and
25% of our prison and jail populations.

Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner

So, they're just like everyone else.

Are those your desires? Not mine.

Gunner

Clarification: A given percentage of any population will share certain
characteristics. Certain dolts want to believe that illegal immigrants are
made up of a higher percentage of *****VIOLENT CRIMINALS*****. These dolts
have no information to back this up. But, in this way, this sample
population is the same as any other.

On the other hand..certain other dolts think that those criminals who
have violated our laws by simply being here..and who use the border as
a get out of jail free card..are equally as violent as the US
population. Which is not true.

Tell you what..how about providing cites to your claim that illegals
are as violent as citizens. Say..per hundred thousand?

Ill be waiting for your cites. With my own, both from the DOJ, the FBI
and the Border Patrol , not to mention LA and San Diego Counties.

Whenever you are ready..prove your claim.


Your sources won't address the characteristic I'm referring to, which can be
observed in early childhood. It's biological and not related to good/bad
parenting, nor is it related to nationality. Some kids are edgy, and require
just a little more attention. For some reason, they don't "socialize" in
quite the same way as others. It's theorized that without special attention,
they ***MAY*** be predisposed to violence later in life. Here (NY), some of
them end up at BOCES for a while. In other states or countries, I have no
idea what happens to them.

If you'd like to know more about this, pick up your telephone, call your
local elementary school, and ask to speak to one of the special ed teachers.

On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 06:48:05 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 10/25/2006 6:28 AM, Gunner wrote:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:31:24 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:15:31 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
wrote:
Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner
So, they're just like everyone else.

Are those your desires? Not mine.
We can tell from your screen name and signature.
Really? Gunner Asch and Rule #35?
No, "Gunner" and "Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge
tactical error"

Fascinating. Please provide how you arrived at that.
By the shortest possible distance, as always.

It will be interesting reading
My posts always are.

Gunner:

4 results for: gunner
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Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1) - Cite This Source
gun?ner /'g?n?r/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[guhn-er]
Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

-noun 1. a person who operates a gun or cannon.
2. Army. an occupational title in the artillery.
3. Navy. a person skilled in handling ammunition and gunnery equipment.
4. Marine Corps. a warrant officer who may be given any one of a number of
assignments.
5. British. a. Military. a private in the artillery.
b. Informal. any officer or enlisted person assigned to the artillery.

6. a person who hunts with a gun.

-Related forms
gun?ner?ship, noun
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source gun·ner (gnr) Pronunciation
Key
n.
A member of the armed forces who operates a gun.
A warrant officer in the U.S. Marine Corps having charge of ordnance.
Chiefly British. An artillery soldier, especially a private.
One who hunts with a gun.

Clearly you refer to yourself in reality or fantasy as someone with a
professional knowledge of the employment of weapons.

Anyone who chooses that name for a screen name, like your signature
statement, is making a Freudian statement of some kind.

Hummmm so guns = steel penis?
"Asch"? Kirst, I suppose, whatever, but it wasn't in your last post, so
don't try to slip it in, or bother referring to it now.

Gosh Mr. ****tard..do you Always sign your informal correspondence
with your full name?

Fascinating. Though all readers of my posts over the years know full
well I sign both Gunner and Gunner Asch.

Yes..I do have a working and professional knowledge of many types of
arms. I also use the nym Gunner Asch (Herbert) as someone close to my
outlook on the world. Thirdly..Ive been called Gunner for nearly 30
yrs in the real world. Not a nick I picked for myself,..it was
presented to me by those whom I respect. At one time..my working
"nick" was Shiva..but only while working. You remember Shiva dontcha?
That smiling fella out of the Hindu (and others) pantheon.
"Rule #35 That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error"
clearly implies involvement with, and the use of, retaliatory deadly force,
and, it's what you choose from infinity to be recognized by as a
correspondence signature.

So -again- I say, not that we can tell by your chosen screen name or
signature file.


Evidently not. Seems you got virtually everything wrong, except the
cut and pastes. But even you couldnt **** those up too badly.

Perhaps you may find the following sigs more to your liking? Which one
should I keep running for a while:

It doesn't matter. Everyone already knows you are a flaming right-wing
retardo.

Harry, your silly crossposting doesn't help keep the trash out.

In article ,
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

Your sources won't address the characteristic I'm referring to, which can be
observed in early childhood. It's biological and not related to good/bad
parenting, nor is it related to nationality.

So... baaaaaasically you're saying that brown people are more violent
and prone toward committing crime?

You know that's been massively disproven by just about everyone, right?

In article ,
Gunner wrote:

Im still waiting for those cites to prove the claims of the pro
illegals.

Tell ya what Homey, why don't YOU prove YOUR assertion FIRST and we'll
go from there?

"Forge" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

Your sources won't address the characteristic I'm referring to, which can
be
observed in early childhood. It's biological and not related to good/bad
parenting, nor is it related to nationality.

So... baaaaaasically you're saying that brown people are more violent
and prone toward committing crime?

Actually, I didn't say that, nor did I imply it. If you disagree, point out
the precise words which gave you that impression.

On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 06:48:05 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 10/25/2006 6:28 AM, Gunner wrote:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:31:24 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:15:31 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
wrote:
Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner
So, they're just like everyone else.

Are those your desires? Not mine.
We can tell from your screen name and signature.
Really? Gunner Asch and Rule #35?
No, "Gunner" and "Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge
tactical error"

Fascinating. Please provide how you arrived at that.
By the shortest possible distance, as always.

It will be interesting reading
My posts always are.

Gunner:

4 results for: gunner
View results from: Dictionary | Thesaurus | Encyclopedia | the Web

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1) - Cite This Source
gun?ner /'g?n?r/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[guhn-er]
Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

-noun 1. a person who operates a gun or cannon.
2. Army. an occupational title in the artillery.
3. Navy. a person skilled in handling ammunition and gunnery equipment.
4. Marine Corps. a warrant officer who may be given any one of a number of
assignments.
5. British. a. Military. a private in the artillery.
b. Informal. any officer or enlisted person assigned to the artillery.

6. a person who hunts with a gun.

-Related forms
gun?ner?ship, noun
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source gun·ner (gnr) Pronunciation
Key
n.
A member of the armed forces who operates a gun.
A warrant officer in the U.S. Marine Corps having charge of ordnance.
Chiefly British. An artillery soldier, especially a private.
One who hunts with a gun.

Clearly you refer to yourself in reality or fantasy as someone with a
professional knowledge of the employment of weapons.

Anyone who chooses that name for a screen name, like your signature
statement, is making a Freudian statement of some kind.

Hummmm so guns = steel penis?
"Asch"? Kirst, I suppose, whatever, but it wasn't in your last post, so
don't try to slip it in, or bother referring to it now.

Gosh Mr. ****tard..do you Always sign your informal correspondence
with your full name?

Fascinating. Though all readers of my posts over the years know full
well I sign both Gunner and Gunner Asch.

Yes..I do have a working and professional knowledge of many types of
arms. I also use the nym Gunner Asch (Herbert) as someone close to my
outlook on the world. Thirdly..Ive been called Gunner for nearly 30
yrs in the real world. Not a nick I picked for myself,..it was
presented to me by those whom I respect. At one time..my working
"nick" was Shiva..but only while working. You remember Shiva dontcha?
That smiling fella out of the Hindu (and others) pantheon.
"Rule #35 That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error"
clearly implies involvement with, and the use of, retaliatory deadly force,
and, it's what you choose from infinity to be recognized by as a
correspondence signature.

So -again- I say, not that we can tell by your chosen screen name or
signature file.


Evidently not. Seems you got virtually everything wrong, except the
cut and pastes. But even you couldnt **** those up too badly.

Perhaps you may find the following sigs more to your liking? Which one
should I keep running for a while:

It doesn't matter. Everyone already knows you are a flaming right-wing
retardo.

The opinon of a flaming leftwing retardo is noted..and found funny as
hell.

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 07:48:57 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:31:24 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
wrote:

Hummmm so guns = steel penis?

Now -that- that Freudian.

"Asch"? Kirst, I suppose, whatever, but it wasn't in your last post, so
don't try to slip it in, or bother referring to it now.

Gosh Mr. ****tard..do you Always sign your informal correspondence
with your full name?

Hmmmm, let me look at the top of the screen.

Yup, for about 21,000 posts now.

piker


Fascinating. Though all readers of my posts over the years know full
well I sign both Gunner and Gunner Asch.

If you want a parallel drawn to Gunner Asch, sign Gunner Asch,
...****tard.

Make me..nya nya nya.

You're nobody in this newsgroup.

Which newsgroup might that be? Im posting to a thread on
rec.crafts.metalworking. So who the hell are you? And why should
anyone care? Other than your Dominatrix that is?

Yes..I do have a working and professional knowledge of many types of
arms. I also use the nym Gunner Asch (Herbert) as someone close to my
outlook on the world. Thirdly..Ive been called Gunner for nearly 30
yrs in the real world. Not a nick I picked for myself,..it was
presented to me by those whom I respect. At one time..my working
"nick" was Shiva..but only while working. You remember Shiva dontcha?
That smiling fella out of the Hindu (and others) pantheon.

"Rule #35 That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error"
clearly implies involvement with, and the use of, retaliatory deadly
force,
and, it's what you choose from infinity to be recognized by as a
correspondence signature.

So -again- I say, not that we can tell by your chosen screen name or
signature file.


Evidently not. Seems you got virtually everything wrong, except the
cut and pastes. But even you couldnt **** those up too badly.

Perhaps you may find the following sigs more to your liking? Which one
should I keep running for a while:

Talk about ****ing things up- I'm a Joe McCarthy Republican, somewhat to
the right of Genghis Khan politically and militarily.

Then act like one. People might think a whiney little turd like
yourself is typical of conservatives in general and we already get
enough bad press from the Leftards.

While I do have Libertarian leanings in personal choice categories, I
don't think the explosives we manufacture should be allowed to cool before
we drop them on someone else's "civilization".

Care to try that in English?

Run along, -boy-, and stick to cut-n-paste.

Blink blink?

"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do
so would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of
regaining power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well
please. The problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long
that, as a group, they themselves are no longer sure of their goals.
They are a collection of wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a
grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some want a Socialist, secular-humanist
state, others the repeal of the Second Amendment. Some want same
sex/different species marriage, others want voting
rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care
and complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a
culture that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of
political correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same
way I view the competing factions of Islamic fundamentalists. The
latter hate each other to the core, and only join
forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the
core, and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives."
--Ron Marr


Or perhaps...

--
The other day I was talking with a Democrat friend about the election.
She'd remarked, with equal amounts of sarcasm and good-natured
ribbing, that the GOP had two years to build utopia. I thought about
that later while walking Jasper around the block, and thought, no;
they're not about building utopia. Personally, I'm interested in
keeping other people from building Utopia, because the more your
believe you can create heaven on earth the more likely you are to set
up guillotines in the public square to hasten the process.
- James Lileks

or how about:

"Get ****ed.

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,/¯ /
/ /
/´¯/' '/´¯¯`·¸
/'/ / / /¨¯\
('( ´ ´ ¯~/' ')
\ ' ~ /
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Laugh laugh laugh

Gunner



Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:53:12 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:43:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.

Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and
25% of our prison and jail populations.

Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner

So, they're just like everyone else.

Are those your desires? Not mine.

Gunner

Clarification: A given percentage of any population will share certain
characteristics. Certain dolts want to believe that illegal immigrants are
made up of a higher percentage of *****VIOLENT CRIMINALS*****. These dolts
have no information to back this up. But, in this way, this sample
population is the same as any other.

On the other hand..certain other dolts think that those criminals who
have violated our laws by simply being here..and who use the border as
a get out of jail free card..are equally as violent as the US
population. Which is not true.

Tell you what..how about providing cites to your claim that illegals
are as violent as citizens. Say..per hundred thousand?

Ill be waiting for your cites. With my own, both from the DOJ, the FBI
and the Border Patrol , not to mention LA and San Diego Counties.

Whenever you are ready..prove your claim.


Your sources won't address the characteristic I'm referring to, which can be
observed in early childhood. It's biological and not related to good/bad
parenting, nor is it related to nationality. Some kids are edgy, and require
just a little more attention. For some reason, they don't "socialize" in
quite the same way as others. It's theorized that without special attention,
they ***MAY*** be predisposed to violence later in life. Here (NY), some of
them end up at BOCES for a while. In other states or countries, I have no
idea what happens to them.

If you'd like to know more about this, pick up your telephone, call your
local elementary school, and ask to speak to one of the special ed teachers.

Your weaseling and pychobabble is noted.

The comment was made that illegal aliens swamp our social and criminal
justice systems and commit crimes at a higher rate than do citizens.

You claimed it was false. I asked you to back up your claim with
cites. Now you drift off into bull**** in a transparent and rather
pathetic attempt to deflect from the fact everyone saw you stupidly
painted yourself into the corner.

The fact of the matter IS, you stupid git..that illegals DO commit
crimes at a higher rate than most citizens of the US. Crimes of
violence.

And there are clear reasons for this, none of which involve
pyschobabble and elementary school bull****.

Your denial is pathetic as is the pitiful attempts at trying to get
people to ignore you sitting in the corner surrounded by wet paint.

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:53:12 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:43:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.

Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20
and
25% of our prison and jail populations.

Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner

So, they're just like everyone else.

Are those your desires? Not mine.

Gunner

Clarification: A given percentage of any population will share certain
characteristics. Certain dolts want to believe that illegal immigrants
are
made up of a higher percentage of *****VIOLENT CRIMINALS*****. These
dolts
have no information to back this up. But, in this way, this sample
population is the same as any other.

On the other hand..certain other dolts think that those criminals who
have violated our laws by simply being here..and who use the border as
a get out of jail free card..are equally as violent as the US
population. Which is not true.

Tell you what..how about providing cites to your claim that illegals
are as violent as citizens. Say..per hundred thousand?

Ill be waiting for your cites. With my own, both from the DOJ, the FBI
and the Border Patrol , not to mention LA and San Diego Counties.

Whenever you are ready..prove your claim.


Your sources won't address the characteristic I'm referring to, which can
be
observed in early childhood. It's biological and not related to good/bad
parenting, nor is it related to nationality. Some kids are edgy, and
require
just a little more attention. For some reason, they don't "socialize" in
quite the same way as others. It's theorized that without special
attention,
they ***MAY*** be predisposed to violence later in life. Here (NY), some
of
them end up at BOCES for a while. In other states or countries, I have no
idea what happens to them.

If you'd like to know more about this, pick up your telephone, call your
local elementary school, and ask to speak to one of the special ed
teachers.

Your weaseling and pychobabble is noted.

The comment was made that illegal aliens swamp our social and criminal
justice systems and commit crimes at a higher rate than do citizens.

You claimed it was false. I asked you to back up your claim with
cites. Now you drift off into bull**** in a transparent and rather
pathetic attempt to deflect from the fact everyone saw you stupidly
painted yourself into the corner.

The fact of the matter IS, you stupid git..that illegals DO commit
crimes at a higher rate than most citizens of the US. Crimes of
violence.

And there are clear reasons for this, none of which involve
pyschobabble and elementary school bull****.

Your denial is pathetic as is the pitiful attempts at trying to get
people to ignore you sitting in the corner surrounded by wet paint.

Gunner

You get very upset when someone shares knowledge which was gained by means
other than the internet. It upsets you even more when I suggest that you
speak to an authority from whom you could learn something interesting, like
a special ed teacher. Thank you. You've illustrated what I told you about
some people being "edgy". With kids, it's often easy to treat. But, without
treatment.....here you are.