On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:52:19 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


How many think that we will be sinking into a deep recession by this time
next year?
Unfortunately, I do.

Why, because Democrats are back in the mix? I'm sure you will be shocked
to find out that the economy does slightly better under a Democrat
administration.

http://www.eriposte.com/economy/other/demovsrep.htm

Oh, and as for fiscal responsibility, it's the Democrats hands down.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2005Apr1.html

Harry Krause wrote:
On 11/8/2006 7:34 AM, Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On 11/8/2006 3:31 AM, jps wrote:
Harry, Doug, Chuck, thunder, basssmootcher and you moderates who know our
country is better off with a neutered Bush and the spend and borrow
congress sent to pasture.

Perhaps we can now begin to repair our world relations, balance our
budget and restore some sanity to our country.

Thank God the country has come to its senses. My hat is off to the
framers for their foresight.

jps
Neutered Bush...hehehe. Good one.

I'll steal that one.



Congrats are in order for the Democrats and their supporters.

Eisboch



The close margin in the 2004 election, should have told the Republicans
there was no mandate for their ultra right wing policies, so it should
not be a surprise that they lost Congress. I am surprised they did not
lose the Senate also. What happened to Republicans who believed in a
true conservative agenda, versus this Neo-Conservative agenda pandering
to the lowest common denominator.




If the current 1900-vote spread holds in Montana, the GOP will also
lose the Senate. Senator Macaca in Virginia is about 8000 votes behind,
not a total likely to be changed in an honest recount.

I think we will take the senate.

Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
That's the key - can they actually do something with nothing. Can
they keep the economic momentum moving in a positive direction, can
they actually come up with a good plan to get us out of the mess in
Iraq and I think even more importantly, can they actually emulate the
Republicans and toe the party line without inter-party squabbling they
are famous for.

More importantly than that is this - can they do it without reducing
the economic power of the middle class by staying away from taxes and
more entitlement programs.

It will be an interesting couple of years.



How many think that we will be sinking into a deep recession by this time
next year?
Unfortunately, I do.

The recession has already started.

Bert Robbins wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
That's the key - can they actually do something with nothing. Can
they keep the economic momentum moving in a positive direction, can
they actually come up with a good plan to get us out of the mess in
Iraq and I think even more importantly, can they actually emulate the
Republicans and toe the party line without inter-party squabbling they
are famous for.

More importantly than that is this - can they do it without reducing
the economic power of the middle class by staying away from taxes and
more entitlement programs.

It will be an interesting couple of years.



How many think that we will be sinking into a deep recession by this time
next year?
Unfortunately, I do.

The recession has already started.

Yes, it's the republican administration's fault. For once, you're
correct.

Bert Robbins wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
That's the key - can they actually do something with nothing. Can
they keep the economic momentum moving in a positive direction, can
they actually come up with a good plan to get us out of the mess in
Iraq and I think even more importantly, can they actually emulate the
Republicans and toe the party line without inter-party squabbling they
are famous for.

More importantly than that is this - can they do it without reducing
the economic power of the middle class by staying away from taxes and
more entitlement programs.

It will be an interesting couple of years.



How many think that we will be sinking into a deep recession by this time
next year?
Unfortunately, I do.

The recession has already started.

Then it's the republican's fault!!

Batten down the hatches. Even if Pelosi honors her pledge not to seek
impeachment (and she *should* honor the pledge and not drag the country
through that pointless, divisive mess again) we're about to redefine
ugly government. Woah.

The political animosity in this country during the next two years is
going to make the last 8 seem like church supper. Too damn bad. If each
side is so fricking "right" about all of these issues, you'd think we
could craft arguments that would stand on their own without all of the
emotional name calling and hysterical rhetoric. I see no evidence
that's the case, on either side, and I don't hold out much hope for
change anytime soon. Political discourse in this country assumes the
average American has a sixth grade education and an IQ of about 70. :-(

(This will be my sole political comment to rec.boats regarding the 2006
elections. My apologies to one and all for mounting the soap box......)

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

..

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
Batten down the hatches. Even if Pelosi honors her pledge not to seek
impeachment (and she *should* honor the pledge and not drag the country
through that pointless, divisive mess again) we're about to redefine
ugly government. Woah.

The political animosity in this country during the next two years is
going to make the last 8 seem like church supper. Too damn bad. If each
side is so fricking "right" about all of these issues, you'd think we
could craft arguments that would stand on their own without all of the
emotional name calling and hysterical rhetoric. I see no evidence
that's the case, on either side, and I don't hold out much hope for
change anytime soon. Political discourse in this country assumes the
average American has a sixth grade education and an IQ of about 70. :-(

(This will be my sole political comment to rec.boats regarding the 2006
elections. My apologies to one and all for mounting the soap box......)


I agree with you 100%. Politicians have set a new low bar.

Eisboch

On 8 Nov 2006 08:26:08 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

Batten down the hatches. Even if Pelosi honors her pledge not to seek
impeachment (and she *should* honor the pledge and not drag the country
through that pointless, divisive mess again) we're about to redefine
ugly government. Woah.

The political animosity in this country during the next two years is
going to make the last 8 seem like church supper. Too damn bad. If each
side is so fricking "right" about all of these issues, you'd think we
could craft arguments that would stand on their own without all of the
emotional name calling and hysterical rhetoric. I see no evidence
that's the case, on either side, and I don't hold out much hope for
change anytime soon. Political discourse in this country assumes the
average American has a sixth grade education and an IQ of about 70. :-(

(This will be my sole political comment to rec.boats regarding the 2006
elections. My apologies to one and all for mounting the soap box......)

Chuck, maybe the politicians are just normal people like us. Look how
little it takes here for a political discussion to turn to a ****-slinging,
name-calling flamefest.

On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:16:45 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

I agree with you 100%. Politicians have set a new low bar.

I agree but I also but don't think its entirely fair to blame only the
politicians. After all "we the people" are supposed to have some
involvement in this also, and not just on election day. If we
continue to accept some of this nonsense as politics as usual, without
also voting with our opinions and dollars, this polarization will
continue and it will undermine the democratic process.

Political moderates of all stripes need to make themselves heard, and
not just on rec.boats.