Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

The GA Hope Scholarship still provides tuition to B students.

More for your information:

September 2003 - Perdue pushes to tie HOPE to SAT scores, threatening
to cut the number of eligible students in half.
January 2004 - Perdue unilaterally cuts HOPE funds
May 2004 - Perdue backs efforts to retroactively limit HOPE benefits
February 2005 - Perdue raids HOPE funds for pet project

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On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 10:00:24 -0500, "ACP"
wrote:

Is the lottery a tax?
Of course it is. The lottery is the tax on stupidity and dispair.

But it's for the children.

basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
ACP wrote:
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jps wrote:
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says...
Bert Robbins wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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...
That's the key - can they actually do something with nothing.
Can
they keep the economic momentum moving in a positive
direction,
can
they actually come up with a good plan to get us out of the
mess
in
Iraq and I think even more importantly, can they actually
emulate
the
Republicans and toe the party line without inter-party
squabbling
they
are famous for.

More importantly than that is this - can they do it without
reducing
the economic power of the middle class by staying away from
taxes
and
more entitlement programs.

It will be an interesting couple of years.

How many think that we will be sinking into a deep recession by
this time
next year?
Unfortunately, I do.
The recession has already started.
Then it's the republican's fault!!
BK, you haven't been paying attention. It's Clinton's fault. You
have
to go back two terms to find the blame.
Ooops, I forgot!! Everything is Clinton's fault. I wonder how they'll
blame the fall of Rummy and the Bush administration on him.......
That's how Rs justify Clinton's success. Going back two terms puts
you
in Reagan territory, savior of all mankind, but especially rich
bankers
who robbed the American public blind.

What gets me is that the Republicans CLAIM to cut taxes. They don't.
They just shuffle money around to make it LOOK like they do. Take for
instance in GA. Up until Gov. Perdue took office, a Republican, we had
one of the best lottery for education purposes going. The HOPE
scholarship. Keep a B average in high school, you get first years
tuition and books paid to any in-state school. Keep a B average in
college, it continues. Worked VERY well.
When Perdue got into office, he almost INSTANTLY started putting his
slimey hands on the HOPE grants, and made new much more strict rules
and payment restrictions on it, using the money for other things.
Is the lottery a tax? You started out by mentioning taxes.

LOL!

And the larger paychecks we saw because of less taxes being taken out
were
just figments of our imagination according to him also. The paychecks may
have LOOKED larger but they really weren't. ;-)

That's *our* Bassy for you.
What an idiot. If you got a bigger paycheck because of tax cuts, but
spent more because of the the inflation that it caused, that's somehow
a good thing? What a dolt.
Hasn't inflation been pretty tame for a while now?
Tame compared to what? Everything is relative, you know. Did you ever
understand the lottery/taxes situation that is occuring here in GA?

The GA Hope Scholarship still provides tuition to B students.

I didn't ever say that it didn't. What I said was a lot of the
programs, and benefits of the HOPE were cut. Now, if you want to know
more, ask. I live here and have students in the system. If you just
think you know what you are talking about and want to act like an
expert on the GA lottery and HOPE scholarship, go for it.

Bassy,
The benefits have been cut slightly because the income generated from
the lottery has not kept up with the costs of education and the
students eligible for the Hope Scholarship, so to kept the Hope
Scholarship financial secure, they made some minor reductions in
benefits paid. It has nothing to do with anyone "putting their slimy
hands on the Hope money and using it for others things". According to
those who run the Georgia Lottery:
In accordance with the Georgia Lottery for Education Act and the Georgia
Constitution, proceeds from lottery sales have been used to solely fund the
following educational programs:

Tuition grants, scholarships or loans to undergraduate college students
and teachers who seek advanced degrees in critical areas of need;
Voluntary prekindergarten program;
Technology grants to train teachers in the use and application of advanced
technology and capital outlay projects for educational facilities.


Now if am I wrong in this matter I would appreciate you correcting me,
but it might be a more productive conversation if you take the chip off
your shoulder and learn how to discuss things in a more rational manner.

basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
ACP wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
JimH wrote:
"ACP" wrote in message
...
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...
jps wrote:
In article . com,
says...
Bert Robbins wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message
...
That's the key - can they actually do something with nothing.
Can
they keep the economic momentum moving in a positive
direction,
can
they actually come up with a good plan to get us out of the
mess
in
Iraq and I think even more importantly, can they actually
emulate
the
Republicans and toe the party line without inter-party
squabbling
they
are famous for.

More importantly than that is this - can they do it without
reducing
the economic power of the middle class by staying away from
taxes
and
more entitlement programs.

It will be an interesting couple of years.

How many think that we will be sinking into a deep recession by
this time
next year?
Unfortunately, I do.
The recession has already started.
Then it's the republican's fault!!
BK, you haven't been paying attention. It's Clinton's fault. You
have
to go back two terms to find the blame.
Ooops, I forgot!! Everything is Clinton's fault. I wonder how they'll
blame the fall of Rummy and the Bush administration on him.......
That's how Rs justify Clinton's success. Going back two terms puts
you
in Reagan territory, savior of all mankind, but especially rich
bankers
who robbed the American public blind.

What gets me is that the Republicans CLAIM to cut taxes. They don't.
They just shuffle money around to make it LOOK like they do. Take for
instance in GA. Up until Gov. Perdue took office, a Republican, we had
one of the best lottery for education purposes going. The HOPE
scholarship. Keep a B average in high school, you get first years
tuition and books paid to any in-state school. Keep a B average in
college, it continues. Worked VERY well.
When Perdue got into office, he almost INSTANTLY started putting his
slimey hands on the HOPE grants, and made new much more strict rules
and payment restrictions on it, using the money for other things.
Is the lottery a tax? You started out by mentioning taxes.

LOL!

And the larger paychecks we saw because of less taxes being taken out
were
just figments of our imagination according to him also. The paychecks may
have LOOKED larger but they really weren't. ;-)

That's *our* Bassy for you.
What an idiot. If you got a bigger paycheck because of tax cuts, but
spent more because of the the inflation that it caused, that's somehow
a good thing? What a dolt.
Hasn't inflation been pretty tame for a while now?
Tame compared to what? Everything is relative, you know. Did you ever
understand the lottery/taxes situation that is occuring here in GA?

The GA Hope Scholarship still provides tuition to B students.

"The HOPE Scholarship is one of the most popular programs in Georgia
history. It has made an investment ofover $3 billion in scholarships
for over 900,000 Georgia students and has encouraged academic
achievement along the way. And for the first time, the best and
brightest of our students stay in Georgia for their college education
and then remain in Georgia to create new businesses.
And it was created by Democrats.

But some did not have the forward-thinking leadership to see the
promise of the HOPE scholarship. Gov. Sonny Perdue and Lt. Governor
candidate Ralph Reed fought the HOPE scholarship tooth and nail. State
Senator Perdue voted against HOPE at least 3 times over his career.1

In typical Gov. Perdue fashion, he is trying to rewrite his record on
HOPE. Now he supports it...or so he says. But he robbed HOPE of an
astonishing $1.7 million to pay for a website2 the Athens Banner-Herald
called "a campaign commercial." That was in 2005. But this is 2006, an
election year. So he wants you to think that he is a big HOPE
supporter. Gov. Perdue really hopes that you'll just forget about his
record.

Georgia has HOPE because Democrats had the vision to support education
in innovative ways. And Democrats have the vision to keep the promise
of HOPE permanent."

And that is just ONE instance.

But it doesn't say any thing about Perdue putting his slimy hands on the
money and diverting it to other expenses.

basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

The GA Hope Scholarship still provides tuition to B students.

More for your information:

September 2003 - Perdue pushes to tie HOPE to SAT scores, threatening
to cut the number of eligible students in half.
January 2004 - Perdue unilaterally cuts HOPE funds
May 2004 - Perdue backs efforts to retroactively limit HOPE benefits
February 2005 - Perdue raids HOPE funds for pet project
You really should credit the people when you cut and paste articles.
http://www.opportunityforgeorgia.com/


The SAT scores provides a uniform bar to evaluate students test scores,
too many students were being given B grades who did not have the skills
to succeed in college.

What pet projects did Perdue raid the Hope funds? My understanding is
that this is illegal. Can you provide a link that discusses the
specific pet projects he funded by "rading the Hope Funds".

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
"ACP" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
"ACP" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

jps wrote:
In article
. com,
says...

Bert Robbins wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message
...
That's the key - can they actually do something with
nothing.
Can
they keep the economic momentum moving in a positive
direction,
can
they actually come up with a good plan to get us out of
the
mess
in
Iraq and I think even more importantly, can they actually
emulate
the
Republicans and toe the party line without inter-party
squabbling
they
are famous for.

More importantly than that is this - can they do it
without
reducing
the economic power of the middle class by staying away
from
taxes
and
more entitlement programs.

It will be an interesting couple of years.



How many think that we will be sinking into a deep
recession
by
this time
next year?
Unfortunately, I do.

The recession has already started.

Then it's the republican's fault!!

BK, you haven't been paying attention. It's Clinton's fault.
You
have
to go back two terms to find the blame.

Ooops, I forgot!! Everything is Clinton's fault. I wonder how
they'll
blame the fall of Rummy and the Bush administration on him.......

That's how Rs justify Clinton's success. Going back two terms
puts
you
in Reagan territory, savior of all mankind, but especially rich
bankers
who robbed the American public blind.

What gets me is that the Republicans CLAIM to cut taxes. They
don't.
They just shuffle money around to make it LOOK like they do. Take
for
instance in GA. Up until Gov. Perdue took office, a Republican, we
had
one of the best lottery for education purposes going. The HOPE
scholarship. Keep a B average in high school, you get first years
tuition and books paid to any in-state school. Keep a B average in
college, it continues. Worked VERY well.
When Perdue got into office, he almost INSTANTLY started putting
his
slimey hands on the HOPE grants, and made new much more strict
rules
and payment restrictions on it, using the money for other things.

Is the lottery a tax? You started out by mentioning taxes.


LOL!

And the larger paychecks we saw because of less taxes being taken out
were
just figments of our imagination according to him also. The paychecks
may
have LOOKED larger but they really weren't. ;-)

That's *our* Bassy for you.

What an idiot. If you got a bigger paycheck because of tax cuts, but
spent more because of the the inflation that it caused, that's somehow
a good thing? What a dolt.

Hasn't inflation been pretty tame for a while now?


In January 1990 it was 5%

It spiked just after Katrina last year to just over 4.5%

4.15% in July 2006

2.06 in September 2006.

Bassy must have missed too many classes in Economics 101. ;-)

Idiot. I love how you pick and choose which dates to supply data
with!!! Do you really think that most people here are dumb enough to
not catch that?

This what you're looking for?

http://www.miseryindex.us/irbyyear.asp

ACP wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
"ACP" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
"ACP" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

jps wrote:
In article
. com,
says...

Bert Robbins wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message
...
That's the key - can they actually do something with
nothing.
Can
they keep the economic momentum moving in a positive
direction,
can
they actually come up with a good plan to get us out of
the
mess
in
Iraq and I think even more importantly, can they actually
emulate
the
Republicans and toe the party line without inter-party
squabbling
they
are famous for.

More importantly than that is this - can they do it
without
reducing
the economic power of the middle class by staying away
from
taxes
and
more entitlement programs.

It will be an interesting couple of years.



How many think that we will be sinking into a deep
recession
by
this time
next year?
Unfortunately, I do.

The recession has already started.

Then it's the republican's fault!!

BK, you haven't been paying attention. It's Clinton's fault.
You
have
to go back two terms to find the blame.

Ooops, I forgot!! Everything is Clinton's fault. I wonder how
they'll
blame the fall of Rummy and the Bush administration on him.......

That's how Rs justify Clinton's success. Going back two terms
puts
you
in Reagan territory, savior of all mankind, but especially rich
bankers
who robbed the American public blind.

What gets me is that the Republicans CLAIM to cut taxes. They
don't.
They just shuffle money around to make it LOOK like they do. Take
for
instance in GA. Up until Gov. Perdue took office, a Republican, we
had
one of the best lottery for education purposes going. The HOPE
scholarship. Keep a B average in high school, you get first years
tuition and books paid to any in-state school. Keep a B average in
college, it continues. Worked VERY well.
When Perdue got into office, he almost INSTANTLY started putting
his
slimey hands on the HOPE grants, and made new much more strict
rules
and payment restrictions on it, using the money for other things.

Is the lottery a tax? You started out by mentioning taxes.


LOL!

And the larger paychecks we saw because of less taxes being taken out
were
just figments of our imagination according to him also. The paychecks
may
have LOOKED larger but they really weren't. ;-)

That's *our* Bassy for you.

What an idiot. If you got a bigger paycheck because of tax cuts, but
spent more because of the the inflation that it caused, that's somehow
a good thing? What a dolt.

Hasn't inflation been pretty tame for a while now?


In January 1990 it was 5%

It spiked just after Katrina last year to just over 4.5%

4.15% in July 2006

2.06 in September 2006.

Bassy must have missed too many classes in Economics 101. ;-)

Idiot. I love how you pick and choose which dates to supply data
with!!! Do you really think that most people here are dumb enough to
not catch that?

This what you're looking for?

http://www.miseryindex.us/irbyyear.asp

Yes, tell me what you see from 1998 until 2005.