"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On 11/8/2006 7:19 PM, Eisboch wrote:
This afternoon I listened to Diane Feinstein being interviewed on MSNBC.
I have to paraphrase her remarks, but basically she said:

1. A date should be set for the withdrawral of troops from Iraq, even if
Iraq's forces aren't ready to take over for themselves.

2. The concept of military chain of command should be ignored or
eliminated by allowing senior military officers on active duty to
publically give their personal opinions of US policy and it's
effectiveness. They should also be able to report directly to the
President, rather going through a chain of command.

Hmmmm..... not a good sign of things to come, I think.

Ok. I hereby vow to make an earnest attempt to get off the politics
...... for about 2 years.
Note: "earnest attempt"

Eisboch
I watched that interview. You have both parts wrong.


MMmdmemm .s...aa ahhh... "Earnest attempt"

Eisboch

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On 11/8/2006 7:03 PM, JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On 11/8/2006 6:42 PM, NOYB wrote:
" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
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Congratulations to the Dems (I aint no Dem either).
Congratulations?

"Getting people to vote for moderates, in order to put extremists in
power, may be the newest and biggest voter fraud." --Thomas Sowell

Sowell? Sheesh. A gasbag.

I wish your party well Harry.

Note the baseline you are inheriting: as of today: A 4.4% unemployment
rate (I
believe that is the lowest in over a decade), record stock market levels,
gasoline around $2/gallon and a booming economy. Most
importantly..........no terrorist attacks on US soil since 9-11.

I hope your party succeeds in improving all of these conditions. The
ball is soon in your court. :-)



Inherited? President Idiot is still in residence at 1600 Penn. When
there's a Dem in there, you can start your clock.

Are you conceding that conditions will worsen with the Dems in power?

Ok. I hereby vow to make an earnest attempt to get off the politics ......
for about 2 years.
Note: "earnest attempt"


Frogwatch wrote:
Arguing politics is fun, even when it is OT. I admit, I have broken my
promise not to do so but I'll try to resist.


It's OT but this is usenet. As long as the main focus of the
majority of one's posts are boating related, then it
shouldn't be a problem.

The problem is caused by the people (and we have seen who
most of them are) who rarely or never post about boats and
who constantly try to start flame wars. It doesn't matter if
their chosen cyber-cudgel is politics or spaghetti.

Just don't be one of "those" people!

DSK

Eisboch wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On 11/8/2006 7:19 PM, Eisboch wrote:
This afternoon I listened to Diane Feinstein being interviewed on MSNBC.
I have to paraphrase her remarks, but basically she said:

1. A date should be set for the withdrawral of troops from Iraq, even if
Iraq's forces aren't ready to take over for themselves.

2. The concept of military chain of command should be ignored or
eliminated by allowing senior military officers on active duty to
publically give their personal opinions of US policy and it's
effectiveness. They should also be able to report directly to the
President, rather going through a chain of command.

Hmmmm..... not a good sign of things to come, I think.

Ok. I hereby vow to make an earnest attempt to get off the politics
...... for about 2 years.
Note: "earnest attempt"

Eisboch
I watched that interview. You have both parts wrong.


MMmdmemm .s...aa ahhh... "Earnest attempt"

Eisboch


Very good, that bait was dangled and played just perfect, but you didn't
take it.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 15:38:41 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


On 11/8/2006 3:32 PM, Frogwatch wrote:

Calif Bill wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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Unfortunately, you picked a reform that is needed. Social Security.
Quit giving all our children's money to the older generation now. SS was
never the national retirement system. Let us hope that Pelosi does not
try to be vinductive, The country wants improvements, not witch hunts.


It may not be a national retirement system, but it was signed into law by
FDR during the depression to encourage older folks to retire and give up
their jobs to the younger generation. Contrary to some popular belief, it
was never intended to be "temporary".

Eisboch


But even FDR said that people needed to have their own savings also. And it
was the "Widows and childrens act" originally to protect those left behind
when the working age person left life behind.

As a small businessman, I have to fund my own retirement system, why
cant everyone else? Stop whining that you dont have a pension, i dont
either and never expected one. If you dont put enough away for
retirement, its your own fault.. You have had the opportunity, if you
didnt do it, dont whine.


"As a small businessman, I have to fund my own retirement system, why
cant everyone else?"

Just when you think you've seen the dumbest possible comment in this
newsgroup, along comes someone who lowers the level further.

"Why can't everyone else?"

Some people in their lifetime don't earn enough to put a nickel away.
Some people's life savings are wiped out when they are hit by medical
emergencies.
Some people are wiped out when their pension fund is misused by their
employer.
And so forth.

Got it now?


You are aware that city and states are also looking for ways to reduce
and even in some cases, eliminate, their pension responsibilities?


Our provincial gov't just avoided a threatened strike by health care
workers over pension contributions. The province (same as my former
employer) was taking premium holidays when the plan was doing well.
Now the province has to put in it's fair share.

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"NOYB" wrote in message
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" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
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Congratulations to the Dems (I aint no Dem either).

Congratulations?

"Getting people to vote for moderates, in order to put extremists in
power, may be the newest and biggest voter fraud." --Thomas Sowell

You think Mr. and Mrs. Johnston in bum-foch N. Carolina have any idea
just how far to the left Nancy Pelosi is compared to their newly-elected
representative...Heath Schuler?

The Democrats ran candidates from the far right in order to put their
far-left candidates in power. That won't play well in the '08 election.




Yes....congratulations to the Democrats. The Republicans let us
down..........they did not support conservative views....they did not
control spending.......they moved to the old time extreme right abandoning
conservatives.

The ball is now in their court. Bush will give them all the rope they
want as evidenced by the Rumsfeld *resignation*. They will either hang
themselves or prove that the change was good for the Country.

The next 2 years will indeed be interesting.

BTW: I wish we would do away with Republican/Democrat political titles
and start voting strictly on worth of the candidate.

From the sound of your last sentence you don't vote for a candidate but for
the "party" of your choice. It's impossible for *all* the most qualified
candidates to be from the same party.

"ACP" wrote in message
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" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
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wrote in message
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Congratulations to the Dems (I aint no Dem either).

Congratulations?

"Getting people to vote for moderates, in order to put extremists in
power, may be the newest and biggest voter fraud." --Thomas Sowell

You think Mr. and Mrs. Johnston in bum-foch N. Carolina have any idea
just how far to the left Nancy Pelosi is compared to their newly-elected
representative...Heath Schuler?

The Democrats ran candidates from the far right in order to put their
far-left candidates in power. That won't play well in the '08 election.




Yes....congratulations to the Democrats. The Republicans let us
down..........they did not support conservative views....they did not
control spending.......they moved to the old time extreme right
abandoning conservatives.

The ball is now in their court. Bush will give them all the rope they
want as evidenced by the Rumsfeld *resignation*. They will either hang
themselves or prove that the change was good for the Country.

The next 2 years will indeed be interesting.

BTW: I wish we would do away with Republican/Democrat political titles
and start voting strictly on worth of the candidate.

From the sound of your last sentence you don't vote for a candidate but
for the "party" of your choice. It's impossible for *all* the most
qualified candidates to be from the same party.


Go look in the "Interesting Documentary" thread.and view my post in that
thread on 11/05/06 at 11:02 a.m.

Hmmm?

Now go directly to jail and do not collect $200 when passing Go.

How you were able to come to your conclusion based on my reply above (to
NOYB) proves you are indeed psychic.

So what is my birthday?

ROTF!

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On 11/8/2006 7:29 PM, JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On 11/8/2006 7:03 PM, JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On 11/8/2006 6:42 PM, NOYB wrote:
" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
...
wrote in message
ups.com...
Congratulations to the Dems (I aint no Dem either).
Congratulations?

"Getting people to vote for moderates, in order to put extremists in
power, may be the newest and biggest voter fraud." --Thomas Sowell
Sowell? Sheesh. A gasbag.
I wish your party well Harry.

Note the baseline you are inheriting: as of today: A 4.4% unemployment
rate (I
believe that is the lowest in over a decade), record stock market
levels,
gasoline around $2/gallon and a booming economy. Most
importantly..........no terrorist attacks on US soil since 9-11.

I hope your party succeeds in improving all of these conditions. The
ball is soon in your court. :-)


Inherited? President Idiot is still in residence at 1600 Penn. When
there's a Dem in there, you can start your clock.

Are you conceding that conditions will worsen with the Dems in power?


Too many variables for your pin job.

So the House and Senate are not responsible for conditions related to the US
unemployment rate, Homeland security and the economy?

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On 11/8/2006 8:13 PM, JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On 11/8/2006 7:29 PM, JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On 11/8/2006 7:03 PM, JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
On 11/8/2006 6:42 PM, NOYB wrote:
" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
...
wrote in message
ups.com...
Congratulations to the Dems (I aint no Dem either).
Congratulations?

"Getting people to vote for moderates, in order to put extremists
in power, may be the newest and biggest voter fraud." --Thomas
Sowell
Sowell? Sheesh. A gasbag.
I wish your party well Harry.

Note the baseline you are inheriting: as of today: A 4.4%
unemployment rate (I
believe that is the lowest in over a decade), record stock market
levels,
gasoline around $2/gallon and a booming economy. Most
importantly..........no terrorist attacks on US soil since 9-11.

I hope your party succeeds in improving all of these conditions.
The ball is soon in your court. :-)


Inherited? President Idiot is still in residence at 1600 Penn. When
there's a Dem in there, you can start your clock.
Are you conceding that conditions will worsen with the Dems in power?

Too many variables for your pin job.

So the House and Senate are not responsible for conditions related to the
US unemployment rate, Homeland security and the economy?



What?

Do I need to restate my questions?

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On 11/8/2006 8:22 PM, JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On 11/8/2006 8:13 PM, JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On 11/8/2006 7:29 PM, JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
On 11/8/2006 7:03 PM, JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
On 11/8/2006 6:42 PM, NOYB wrote:
" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
...
wrote in message
ups.com...
Congratulations to the Dems (I aint no Dem either).
Congratulations?

"Getting people to vote for moderates, in order to put
extremists in power, may be the newest and biggest voter
fraud." --Thomas Sowell
Sowell? Sheesh. A gasbag.
I wish your party well Harry.

Note the baseline you are inheriting: as of today: A 4.4%
unemployment rate (I
believe that is the lowest in over a decade), record stock market
levels,
gasoline around $2/gallon and a booming economy. Most
importantly..........no terrorist attacks on US soil since 9-11.

I hope your party succeeds in improving all of these conditions.
The ball is soon in your court. :-)


Inherited? President Idiot is still in residence at 1600 Penn. When
there's a Dem in there, you can start your clock.
Are you conceding that conditions will worsen with the Dems in power?
Too many variables for your pin job.
So the House and Senate are not responsible for conditions related to
the US unemployment rate, Homeland security and the economy?


What?

Do I need to restate my questions?

We have an executive, a legislative, and a judicial branch of government.
The executive makes the decisions, and can approve or not approve
legislation with a pen, and pay attention to or ignore judicial opinions
with "signing statements" Congress can provide oversight and investigate.


Nice try. A Presidential veto can be overturned by the Congress.

Considering your statement to be correct I guess you saying that the
economy, record stock market levels and unemployment rates during the
Clinton years were the result of the Republican controlled Congress.
Correct?


The US employment rate is a farce; it is padded with "crap" jobs these
days.

Was it also a farce during the Clinton years?