basskisser wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 07:32:33 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


On 11/21/2006 7:21 AM, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 11:25:01 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:


On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:11:47 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


US Navy, so must include boats.
Weapons control we can live with.
http://www.whc.net/rjones/USN/USN_team.html

Pfffhhhtt.....

Marine Corps Silent Drill Team is better.

Squids....

The Army's Old Guard puts them all to shame.

I don't understand the purpose of these displays. Are they part of
recruitment programs?

It's a demonstration of martial skill with a weapon. It takes a lot
of discipline, control, timing to handle weapons like that. It's like
a karate kata display only with heavy wooden rifles instead of
nun-chuka, swords, knifes, those tuning fork thingies, smashing blocks
with you're forehead - you know. :)


That's not REAL world karate. Just a display of karate, much like the
dancing with fake guns is just a display.

Ever watch the Ultimate Fighting Championships?
Even the guys with martial arts training usually punch like a boxer or
wrassle and try to submit their opponent with one hold or another.

DSK wrote:
What's "inappropriately loud" mean?


JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
Example: One band I'm playing with. We practice in a 12x15 room. One
guitarist has a 4x12 Marshall cabinet and an amp head that could be used to
play a rather large room. He doesn't know how to turn it down.

That's not "inappropriately loud" that's just a guy who may
(or may not) be a great guitar player but doesn't have a
clue how to play WITH a band.

Dynamics, man, dynamics!

Just say to him, "You ever notice how sometimes, really
really good bands play soft? It, like, emphasiszes certain
parts of the song, plus it makes the loud parts sound even
louder." If you can get this point across, you'll be doing
hims a huge favor. It's part of learning to actually PLAY
rather than just hurling a lot of notes around.

DSK

You don't have to be ear splitting to have a great and full tone.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9KdHuZXWxGo

Warren would be proud fo his son....

Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 11:49:59 -0500, DSK wrote:


Chuck Gould wrote:

Did the ancient armies actually like bagpipe music? Hard to say. All I
know is that when you see drawings of some of the units marching into
battle they often have the piper on point. :-)


That wasn't by chance.



Here's a look at the audio torture device enroute to me via UPS Ground.
A "shuttle pipe" is not quite as loud as a Great Highland, but sounds
about the same. Biggest difference is that you can practice the shuttle
pipes indoors or play in a small room without being inappropriately
loud.

What's "inappropriately loud" mean?


Audible?


I happen to like bagpipe music, but it may be a genetically
acquired taste. A friend of mine has said that the best
thing about bagpipe music is that it serves as a warning:
"Men in kilts approaching."


I like it too, but normally only hear it from police funerals,
and documentaries about Scotland. Chuck's post has got me
interested in it a bit, and I think I'll listen to some recordings.
Or maybe look up an old buddy and record some myself.
One of us would do the background drone and the other
would vocalize da dada da da, dada dada.
No bagpipes used, but it was fun.

--Vic

All my cousins from mom's side play. Two are in the military.
One is a Major in the Canadian Army who just returned form England where
he was awarded an MBE. I'll have to contact him and see if it was for
his piping.

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On 21 Nov 2006 09:53:48 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


The bagpipes originated in Asia or the middle east, crossed into Europe
through Turkey, and some old drawings of Emperor Nero show him playing
a musical instrument where pipes are regulated by pressure from an
orally inflated bag.

The bagpipes were "rediscovered" by western European crusaders about
900 years ago.

Imagine "belly dancing" music instead of "Scotland the Brave" coming
from the pipes, (the sound is absolutely right for it), and it's easier
to get around the Celtic stereotypes.

Bagpipers have always been a bit disreputable, either that or not
highly appreciated by their audiences. At various times and under
various monarchs, performing on the bagpipe was punishable by death.
Sign on an olde English Inn; "No bagpypers, harlets, or thyves allow'd"

I mentioned this thread to my wife, who grew up in Poland, and whose
family had many musicians. She started talking about Polish bagpipes.
This was new to me since I always associated bagpipes with Scots only.
I then googled bagpipe history and learned more than I really wanted
to about this "instrument of peasants." Anyway, I'm getting more
music, military, union and turkey cooking info here than I anticipated
when first coming here.
No complaints.

--Vic


Congratulations. You've been dragged kicking and screaming into the elite
special forces of rec.boats. The ones who can talk about things other than
boats without feeling guilty.

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message
...
Chuck Gould wrote:
Did the ancient armies actually like bagpipe music? Hard to say.
All I
know is that when you see drawings of some of the units marching
into
battle they often have the piper on point. :-)


That wasn't by chance.


Here's a look at the audio torture device enroute to me via UPS
Ground.
A "shuttle pipe" is not quite as loud as a Great Highland, but
sounds
about the same. Biggest difference is that you can practice the
shuttle
pipes indoors or play in a small room without being inappropriately
loud.

What's "inappropriately loud" mean?

Example: One band I'm playing with. We practice in a 12x15 room. One
guitarist has a 4x12 Marshall cabinet and an amp head that could be
used
to
play a rather large room. He doesn't know how to turn it down. When
he's
really out of hand, I can feel the legs of my jeans actually moving.
I'm
giving him two more speeches about how this will not fly in small
clubs.
The
band will never be hired a second time. If he doesn't get it, I'm
gone.

I use a custom made set of Etymotic ear plugs. It's not enough
protection
around this guy. Bagpipes can be equally scary. Almost.

My brother does sound for a couple of bands as well as make sound
systems for some. A few years back, he had that problem with a band he
was doing sound for, they just couldn't understand that in a small
club, or even in a large venue, volume, and lots of it, doesn't make
GOOD sound. You have to match the sound with the room. Of course, they
kind of sucked anyway, so they needed distorted volume to sound like
they had at least some talent! Have you ever been to Grassroots Fest?

http://www.grassrootsfest.org/

I went years ago, when the only one was in Trumansburg.


Long time ago - mainly to see Taj Mahal.

I saw Donna the Buffalo before they were anything!


I've heard good stuff about them, but never seen them. If I recall, the
festival included thunderstorms & mud this past summer. I can put up with
crowds and porta-potties, but lightning outdoors, in return for
music....nah. :-)

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:29:59 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Congratulations. You've been dragged kicking and screaming into the elite
special forces of rec.boats. The ones who can talk about things other than
boats without feeling guilty.

No matter what you say, I'm still gonna feel guilty until I get my
boat.

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:29:59 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Congratulations. You've been dragged kicking and screaming into the elite
special forces of rec.boats. The ones who can talk about things other than
boats without feeling guilty.

No matter what you say, I'm still gonna feel guilty until I get my
boat.

--Vic

OK. Just hurry up, or Chuck will be all over like stink on ****.

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:56:05 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


You know, like the tom cat that spends his entire life squawling,
screeching and howling right under your bedroom window?

Ahh, I believe that would be Australian bagpipes. You know, when you put
that tomcat under your arm, bite down on it's tail, and yank on it's legs
for the melody. Done right, the sound is indistinguishable from the
Scottish variety. ;-)

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:27:38 GMT, Don White
wrote:

All my cousins from mom's side play. Two are in the military.
One is a Major in the Canadian Army who just returned form England where
he was awarded an MBE. I'll have to contact him and see if it was for
his piping.

hehe

--Vic

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 07:32:33 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 11/21/2006 7:21 AM, JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 11:25:01 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:11:47 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

US Navy, so must include boats.
Weapons control we can live with.
http://www.whc.net/rjones/USN/USN_team.html
Pfffhhhtt.....

Marine Corps Silent Drill Team is better.

Squids....

The Army's Old Guard puts them all to shame.



I don't understand the purpose of these displays. Are they part of
recruitment programs?

You wouldn't understand.