If you get the Washington Post, read no further. If not, here's an
interesting article on the new ships being built for the Coast Guard and
some of the problems involved.

http://tinyurl.com/2qwesa
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On Jan 27, 6:19�am, John H wrote:
If you get the Washington Post, read no further. If not, here's an
interesting article on the new ships being built for the Coast Guard and
some of the problems involved.

http://tinyurl.com/2qwesa
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Sound like that might be similar to some of the problems experienced
by the earlist Liberty ships during WWII. Their "stress cracking" was
probably slightly different- the light build schedule and cold water
stress on the cheap grade of steel resulted in a lot of them simply
snapping across the beam and sinking faster than anybody could even
think about abandoning ship.

They solved the Liberty ship problem by welding reinforcing strips to
the gunwales just below the sheer line. Let's hope there's a
"retrofit" available to the USCG.

On 27 Jan 2007 06:59:40 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:



On Jan 27, 6:19?am, John H wrote:
If you get the Washington Post, read no further. If not, here's an
interesting article on the new ships being built for the Coast Guard and
some of the problems involved.

http://tinyurl.com/2qwesa
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Sound like that might be similar to some of the problems experienced
by the earlist Liberty ships during WWII. Their "stress cracking" was
probably slightly different- the light build schedule and cold water
stress on the cheap grade of steel resulted in a lot of them simply
snapping across the beam and sinking faster than anybody could even
think about abandoning ship.

They solved the Liberty ship problem by welding reinforcing strips to
the gunwales just below the sheer line. Let's hope there's a
"retrofit" available to the USCG.

I haven't seen anything yet to indicate the 'fixes' are going to be easy or
cheap, or completely possible for that matter. I hope so, but it seems like
the CG may have shot itself in the foot on this one, assuming that
contractors were going to do what's best for the government and not
themselves.
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John H wrote:
assuming that
contractors were going to do what's best for the government and not
themselves.


When did that ever happen, John???

On 27 Jan 2007 09:19:07 -0800, "Tim" wrote:


John H wrote:
assuming that
contractors were going to do what's best for the government and not
themselves.


When did that ever happen, John???

Hey! My son-in-law works for Raytheon. They would never do anything like
that. :)
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in
oups.com:


Sound like that might be similar to some of the problems experienced
by the earlist Liberty ships during WWII. Their "stress cracking" was
probably slightly different- the light build schedule and cold water
stress on the cheap grade of steel resulted in a lot of them simply
snapping across the beam and sinking faster than anybody could even
think about abandoning ship.

They solved the Liberty ship problem by welding reinforcing strips to
the gunwales just below the sheer line. Let's hope there's a
"retrofit" available to the USCG.


The "fix" was to RIVET (not weld) doubler plates along the hull..... a
practice which was continued well into the sixties.
With the reduced scantlings used on many ships, stress cracking is still a
problem .... though this is not always the reason for it.

otn

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...


On Jan 27, 6:19?am, John H wrote:
If you get the Washington Post, read no further. If not, here's an
interesting article on the new ships being built for the Coast Guard and
some of the problems involved.

http://tinyurl.com/2qwesa
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John H


Sound like that might be similar to some of the problems experienced
by the earlist Liberty ships during WWII. Their "stress cracking" was
probably slightly different- the light build schedule and cold water
stress on the cheap grade of steel resulted in a lot of them simply
snapping across the beam and sinking faster than anybody could even
think about abandoning ship.

They solved the Liberty ship problem by welding reinforcing strips to
the gunwales just below the sheer line. Let's hope there's a
"retrofit" available to the USCG.


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Weird. After 9/11, we were at a moment in history when the CG had the
closest thing available to a blank check to get the best thing available,
and then this happens.

Proudly 'Made In USA'.
JR

John H wrote:
If you get the Washington Post, read no further. If not, here's an
interesting article on the new ships being built for the Coast Guard and
some of the problems involved.

http://tinyurl.com/2qwesa
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The government usually get stuff from the lowest bidder.

JR North wrote:
Proudly 'Made In USA'.
JR

John H wrote:
If you get the Washington Post, read no further. If not, here's an
interesting article on the new ships being built for the Coast Guard and
some of the problems involved.

http://tinyurl.com/2qwesa
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Really? you mean like those $600 toilet seats and $200 hammers?
JR

Bert Robbins wrote:

The government usually get stuff from the lowest bidder.

JR North wrote:

Proudly 'Made In USA'.
JR

John H wrote:

If you get the Washington Post, read no further. If not, here's an
interesting article on the new ships being built for the Coast Guard and
some of the problems involved.

http://tinyurl.com/2qwesa
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