On this day, during the battle for Iwo Jima, U.S. Marines raise the
American flag atop Mt. Suribachi, the highest point on the island of Iwo
Jima and a key strategic point. Later, Marine commanders decide to raise
a second, larger flag, an event which an Associated Press photographer,
Joe Rosenthal, captured on film. The resulting photograph became a
defining image of the war.

On Feb 23, 3:58 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On this day, during the battle for Iwo Jima, U.S. Marines raise the
American flag atop Mt. Suribachi, the highest point on the island of Iwo
Jima and a key strategic point. Later, Marine commanders decide to raise
a second, larger flag, an event which an Associated Press photographer,
Joe Rosenthal, captured on film. The resulting photograph became a
defining image of the war.



The movie, "Flag Of Our Fathers" , is really good, and disapointing as
well. The gov't propganda that was behind taking three of the Iwo Jima
flag-raising survivors, and making them "heros" then putting them on
tour through out the US to raise war bonds, was the disapointing
part. Not that they didn't do their job, but the political "behind
the scenes" shenanigans, was enough to be upsetting.

They themselves didn't think they were heros, but I do.

I really felt bad how Pvt. Ira Hayes was treated as well.

Tim wrote:
On Feb 23, 3:58 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On this day, during the battle for Iwo Jima, U.S. Marines raise the
American flag atop Mt. Suribachi, the highest point on the island of Iwo
Jima and a key strategic point. Later, Marine commanders decide to raise
a second, larger flag, an event which an Associated Press photographer,
Joe Rosenthal, captured on film. The resulting photograph became a
defining image of the war.

The movie, "Flag Of Our Fathers" , is really good, and disapointing as
well. The gov't propganda that was behind taking three of the Iwo Jima
flag-raising survivors, and making them "heros" then putting them on
tour through out the US to raise war bonds, was the disapointing
part. Not that they didn't do their job, but the political "behind
the scenes" shenanigans, was enough to be upsetting.

They themselves didn't think they were heros, but I do.

I really felt bad how Pvt. Ira Hayes was treated as well.

A lot of stories came out of Iwo.

My Uncle knew one of the stories protagonists - guy by the name of
Ignitowski - they went to high school together.

A lot of stories came out of Iwo.

My neighbor new Joe Rosenthal pretty well (R.I.P.)

--Mike

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Tim wrote:
On Feb 23, 3:58 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On this day, during the battle for Iwo Jima, U.S. Marines raise the
American flag atop Mt. Suribachi, the highest point on the island of Iwo
Jima and a key strategic point. Later, Marine commanders decide to raise
a second, larger flag, an event which an Associated Press photographer,
Joe Rosenthal, captured on film. The resulting photograph became a
defining image of the war.

The movie, "Flag Of Our Fathers" , is really good, and disapointing as
well. The gov't propganda that was behind taking three of the Iwo Jima
flag-raising survivors, and making them "heros" then putting them on
tour through out the US to raise war bonds, was the disapointing
part. Not that they didn't do their job, but the political "behind
the scenes" shenanigans, was enough to be upsetting.

They themselves didn't think they were heros, but I do.

I really felt bad how Pvt. Ira Hayes was treated as well.

A lot of stories came out of Iwo.

My Uncle knew one of the stories protagonists - guy by the name of
Ignitowski - they went to high school together.

Mike wrote:
A lot of stories came out of Iwo.

My neighbor new Joe Rosenthal pretty well (R.I.P.)

He spent years denying that he staged the second raising. The true
story is that the original flag was coveted by James Forrestal and
eventually became the property of the Group Admiral. That's why there
was a second raising.

There are actually two photographs - one of the original raising and the
second raising. The only reason why Rosenthal's became so famous is
that it was developed and sent back stateside by what was then called
"wire photo". The original was not developed and was sent stateside in
regular Army in-service mail - didn't arrive until a month after the
Rosenthal photo.

I've seen them both - the Rosenthal photo is much better.

On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 11:29:04 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Mike wrote:
A lot of stories came out of Iwo.

My neighbor new Joe Rosenthal pretty well (R.I.P.)

He spent years denying that he staged the second raising. The true
story is that the original flag was coveted by James Forrestal and
eventually became the property of the Group Admiral. That's why there
was a second raising.

There are actually two photographs - one of the original raising and the
second raising. The only reason why Rosenthal's became so famous is
that it was developed and sent back stateside by what was then called
"wire photo". The original was not developed and was sent stateside in
regular Army in-service mail - didn't arrive until a month after the
Rosenthal photo.

I've seen them both - the Rosenthal photo is much better.

If I recall correctly, at least one of the original flag-raisers was
KIA before the second raising was done.

--Vic