I have a 20' long with 10' beam fiberglass V-hull chaparral boat with a
Johnson V-6 150hp outboard. Fuel capacity is 50 gal tank. Full electronics
and so forth, with optimum weather conditions seas 1-2 ft or that lucky
glass day. How far out in the ocean could I or should I go to see a little
better fishing, i.e.... size or game fish, without getting myself or others
in
trouble, or before is unsafe or unrealalistic. I would love to see blue
water but I don't think I have the fuel capacity for that, I am aware the
1/3 rule as per fuel, 1/3 out---1/3 back and 1/3 for just in case. Not that
it would make any difference, I would be going out of either south jersey,
Delaware bay or Delaware or O.C. Maryland.

Any help and or suggestions would be greatly welcome, I would like to bring
my kids, 14 and 18, but only if it's possible and safe to do so, if not,
chances are I would be doing it alone Most likely as I do most of time.

Thanks in advance

On Mar 22, 10:15�pm, "Jay" wrote:
I have a 20' long with 10' beam fiberglass V-hull chaparral boat with a
Johnson V-6 150hp outboard. Fuel capacity is 50 gal tank. Full electronics
and so forth, with optimum weather conditions seas *1-2 ft or that lucky
glass day. How far out in the ocean could I or should I go to see a little
better fishing, i.e.... size or game fish, without getting myself or others
in
trouble, or before is unsafe or unrealalistic. I would love to see blue
water but I don't think I have the fuel capacity for that, I am aware the
1/3 rule as per fuel, 1/3 out---1/3 back and 1/3 for just in case. Not that
it would make any difference, I would be going out of either south jersey,
Delaware bay or Delaware or O.C. Maryland.

Any help and or suggestions would be greatly welcome, I would like to bring
my kids, 14 and 18, but only if it's possible and safe to do so, if not,
chances are I would be doing it alone Most likely as I do most of time.

Thanks in advance

Weather can be volatile. If you require nearly perfect weather in
order to feel safe on a particular waterway with a particular boat you
probably should rethink the whole works before setting out. The fact
that you're nervous enough to even ask about the prospect of taking
that particular boat out in moderate seas is a pretty good indicator
that your intuition may be telling you something. (Most of the time,
you should trust your feelings Luke). In the "glass" conditions you
describe, or even minor chop, it sounds like you might have enough
boat for the job. If you can figure out how to guarantee the weather
won't take a sudden turn for the worse and a brisk wind won't come
roaring up when you're 10-15 miles out you're probably OK- but good
luck with that.

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 05:15:48 GMT, "Jay" wrote:

I have a 20' long with 10' beam fiberglass V-hull chaparral boat with a
Johnson V-6 150hp outboard. Fuel capacity is 50 gal tank. Full electronics
and so forth, with optimum weather conditions seas 1-2 ft or that lucky
glass day. How far out in the ocean could I or should I go to see a little
better fishing, i.e.... size or game fish, without getting myself or others
in
trouble, or before is unsafe or unrealalistic. I would love to see blue
water but I don't think I have the fuel capacity for that, I am aware the
1/3 rule as per fuel, 1/3 out---1/3 back and 1/3 for just in case. Not that
it would make any difference, I would be going out of either south jersey,
Delaware bay or Delaware or O.C. Maryland.

Any help and or suggestions would be greatly welcome, I would like to bring
my kids, 14 and 18, but only if it's possible and safe to do so, if not,
chances are I would be doing it alone Most likely as I do most of time.

Thanks in advance

It's not a question of distance for quality fish, but location. You
don't have to go 20 miles offshore to find quality fish. In the area
where you will be fishing, a couple of miles fishing break lines, rock
piles, rips with the proper equipment will give you a quality
experience, stay reasonably safe and have a ton of fun.

20' isn't a lot of boat for riding 25 miles out in the North Atlantic.
And depending on your fuel usage, a long run like that even at cruise
setting is going to suck gas - how much depends on what the age of the
engine is and whether it's two or four stroke.

If you want to just take the kids out beyond the horizon and mess
around trying to catch some fish, maybe 10/12 miles depending on gas
usuage - and that's a good day.

Lastly, "glass" conditions can go to crap conditions in a hurry out
that far - all it takes is a moving weather front north or south and
you can be smack dab in the middle of heavy fog, 3-4 foot swells and a
world of problems. You also have to remember that your fuel usage can
increase by 25% in bad weather if you have to fight head or quartering
winds which can happen even on a "nice" day. Add to that the
occasional following sea - well, I'm sure you get the idea.

Just out of curiosity, what model boat do you have with a 20' length
and a 10 foot beam?

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 05:15:48 GMT, "Jay" wrote:

I have a 20' long with 10' beam fiberglass V-hull chaparral boat with a
Johnson V-6 150hp outboard.
Just out of curiosity, what model boat do you have with a 20' length
and a 10 foot beam?


He mentioned (above) that it is a Chaparral.
I think, but am not sure, that he may be mistaken on the beam.

Eisboch

Jay wrote:
I have a 20' long with 10' beam fiberglass V-hull chaparral boat with a
Johnson V-6 150hp outboard. Fuel capacity is 50 gal tank. Full electronics
and so forth, with optimum weather conditions seas 1-2 ft or that lucky
glass day. How far out in the ocean could I or should I go to see a little
better fishing, i.e.... size or game fish, without getting myself or others
in
trouble, or before is unsafe or unrealalistic. I would love to see blue
water but I don't think I have the fuel capacity for that, I am aware the
1/3 rule as per fuel, 1/3 out---1/3 back and 1/3 for just in case. Not that
it would make any difference, I would be going out of either south jersey,
Delaware bay or Delaware or O.C. Maryland.

Any help and or suggestions would be greatly welcome, I would like to bring
my kids, 14 and 18, but only if it's possible and safe to do so, if not,
chances are I would be doing it alone Most likely as I do most of time.

Thanks in advance






Alone, I wouldn't go out more than 10 miles offshore in that rig, and
only on days when the weather reports are good and you have the ability
to understand sea weather reports. Things can change out on the ocean
and get very ugly very quickly. If you head out with a few other boats,
you'll have buddies around when trouble rears its ugly head.

I wasn't aware Chap built an outboard boat. Is this something new or a
rig from the 1980s? If the latter, what sort of shape is that outboard in?

I doubt your 20-footer has a 10' beam. More likely, an eight foot beam.

Oh. Buy a six gallon plastic tank and connect hose, and try out the
connection to the engine to make sure you know how to use it. That'll
give you almost an hour of cruise range.

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 05:15:48 GMT, "Jay" wrote:

I am aware the
1/3 rule as per fuel, 1/3 out---1/3 back and 1/3 for just in case. Not that
it would make any difference, I would be going out of either south jersey,
Delaware bay or Delaware or O.C. Maryland.

That area is notorious for strong current, ocean swells and tricky
conditions in the inlets and in Delaware Bay. If the current starts
to ebb while you are out and/or the swells from the ocean start to
build, you could experience dangerous conditions coming back in even
with no wind. This is not a hypothetical situation. Every year many
small boats, some as big as 24 and 25 feet, are capsized in the
inlets, frequently with loss of life.

If you go out on a calm day to look around, stay close by and head
back in at the first sign of any change. A 20 foot boat can be
capsized or swamped by a breaking wave only 3 or 4 feet high.

Thank you so much to all that responded, there's alot of good info and
idea's (I.e... 6 gal. gas and current's with del.bay which I was not aware
of.) as for some of your questions: year is 1987, the beam is 8 ft, (Just
measured it) and the condition of the motor is solid so far, 408 hrs. on it,
well maintained I don't beat on it, I want to be able to get out of
trouble just as fast as I get into it. Well, good info and a lot of common
sense, I think well do alright...............BTW, I got caught out in the
middle of the del.bay last year when a squaw kicked up, WOW things can
change mighty fast. I learned that, luckily not the hard way, and learned a
few things on the way back in.

I just want to do my homework and not bite of more than i can chew
especially with my kids or guest along, I found out owning a boat that
things are quite different when your the skipper and not a guest. Again,
THANK YOU TO ALL THAT RESPONDED and happy and safe boating to one and all.

Jay

"Jay" wrote in message
news:8oJMh.15071$dG.7491@trndny08...
I have a 20' long with 10' beam fiberglass V-hull chaparral boat with a
Johnson V-6 150hp outboard. Fuel capacity is 50 gal tank. Full electronics
and so forth, with optimum weather conditions seas 1-2 ft or that lucky
glass day. How far out in the ocean could I or should I go to see a little
better fishing, i.e.... size or game fish, without getting myself or
others in
trouble, or before is unsafe or unrealalistic. I would love to see blue
water but I don't think I have the fuel capacity for that, I am aware the
1/3 rule as per fuel, 1/3 out---1/3 back and 1/3 for just in case. Not
that
it would make any difference, I would be going out of either south jersey,
Delaware bay or Delaware or O.C. Maryland.

Any help and or suggestions would be greatly welcome, I would like to
bring
my kids, 14 and 18, but only if it's possible and safe to do so, if not,
chances are I would be doing it alone Most likely as I do most of time.

Thanks in advance

Where did the squaw kick you, and was it your voice that changed?
JR

Jay wrote:

Thank you so much to all that responded, there's alot of good info and
idea's (I.e... 6 gal. gas and current's with del.bay which I was not aware
of.) as for some of your questions: year is 1987, the beam is 8 ft, (Just
measured it) and the condition of the motor is solid so far, 408 hrs. on it,
well maintained I don't beat on it, I want to be able to get out of
trouble just as fast as I get into it. Well, good info and a lot of common
sense, I think well do alright...............BTW, I got caught out in the
middle of the del.bay last year when a squaw kicked up, WOW things can
change mighty fast. I learned that, luckily not the hard way, and learned a
few things on the way back in.

I just want to do my homework and not bite of more than i can chew
especially with my kids or guest along, I found out owning a boat that
things are quite different when your the skipper and not a guest. Again,
THANK YOU TO ALL THAT RESPONDED and happy and safe boating to one and all.

Jay

"Jay" wrote in message
news:8oJMh.15071$dG.7491@trndny08...

I have a 20' long with 10' beam fiberglass V-hull chaparral boat with a
Johnson V-6 150hp outboard. Fuel capacity is 50 gal tank. Full electronics
and so forth, with optimum weather conditions seas 1-2 ft or that lucky
glass day. How far out in the ocean could I or should I go to see a little
better fishing, i.e.... size or game fish, without getting myself or
others in
trouble, or before is unsafe or unrealalistic. I would love to see blue
water but I don't think I have the fuel capacity for that, I am aware the
1/3 rule as per fuel, 1/3 out---1/3 back and 1/3 for just in case. Not
that
it would make any difference, I would be going out of either south jersey,
Delaware bay or Delaware or O.C. Maryland.

Any help and or suggestions would be greatly welcome, I would like to
bring
my kids, 14 and 18, but only if it's possible and safe to do so, if not,
chances are I would be doing it alone Most likely as I do most of time.

Thanks in advance









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