I just took some photos of a newer green Kevlacat dive boat here in
the Bahamas with a break in the hull, apparently just from stress and
poor construction. The owner says that they were just motoring along
and that the boat filled up and sank. I saw no indication that it hit
anything. Supposedly someone else is having the same problems with
another one on Green Turtle Cay, just north of here. If you are buying
a boat....

On Mar 26, 5:18?am, "Messing In Boats" wrote:
I just took some photos of a newer green Kevlacat dive boat here in
the Bahamas with a break in the hull, apparently just from stress and
poor construction. The owner says that they were just motoring along
and that the boat filled up and sank. I saw no indication that it hit
anything. Supposedly someone else is having the same problems with
another one on Green Turtle Cay, just north of here. If you are buying
a boat....

It would be interesting to know more about the incident itself.

According to your photos, what portion of the hull failed?

Chuck Gould wrote:
On Mar 26, 5:18?am, "Messing In Boats" wrote:
I just took some photos of a newer green Kevlacat dive boat here in
the Bahamas with a break in the hull, apparently just from stress and
poor construction. The owner says that they were just motoring along
and that the boat filled up and sank. I saw no indication that it hit
anything. Supposedly someone else is having the same problems with
another one on Green Turtle Cay, just north of here. If you are buying
a boat....

It would be interesting to know more about the incident itself.

According to your photos, what portion of the hull failed?



Chuck must have a spamreview pending...

On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:38:48 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:
On Mar 26, 5:18?am, "Messing In Boats" wrote:
I just took some photos of a newer green Kevlacat dive boat here in
the Bahamas with a break in the hull, apparently just from stress and
poor construction. The owner says that they were just motoring along
and that the boat filled up and sank. I saw no indication that it hit
anything. Supposedly someone else is having the same problems with
another one on Green Turtle Cay, just north of here. If you are buying
a boat....

It would be interesting to know more about the incident itself.

According to your photos, what portion of the hull failed?



Chuck must have a spamreview pending...

The nice thing about enmity -- whoever earns yours Harry, must be a pretty
decent guy!
--
***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

John H

On Mar 26, 8:18 am, "Messing In Boats" wrote:
I just took some photos of a newer green Kevlacat dive boat here in
the Bahamas with a break in the hull, apparently just from stress and
poor construction. The owner says that they were just motoring along
and that the boat filled up and sank. I saw no indication that it hit
anything. Supposedly someone else is having the same problems with
another one on Green Turtle Cay, just north of here. If you are buying
a boat....

The starboard side of the right hull apparently just caved in, a crack
about two feet long which would have allowed lots of water to enter
that hull, depending upon speed and water conditions. The hull
appeared to be thin, but I'm no surveyor. That hull was definitely
warped, though, and you didn't have to be a surveyor to see that. Come
down and see it yourself at the main boatyard in Marsh Harbour,
Abacos. I'm betting whoever has title to it now would sell it cheap.
This is supposedly the green one featured on their website.

On Mar 26, 9:38?am, Harry Krause wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Mar 26, 5:18?am, "Messing In Boats" wrote:
I just took some photos of a newer green Kevlacat dive boat here in
the Bahamas with a break in the hull, apparently just from stress and
poor construction. The owner says that they were just motoring along
and that the boat filled up and sank. I saw no indication that it hit
anything. Supposedly someone else is having the same problems with
another one on Green Turtle Cay, just north of here. If you are buying
a boat....

It would be interesting to know more about the incident itself.

According to your photos, what portion of the hull failed?

Chuck must have a spamreview pending...

Harry must be especially overfilled with hateful negativity. No
suprise there.

On Mar 26, 5:26?pm, "Messing In Boats" wrote:
On Mar 26, 8:18 am, "Messing In Boats" wrote:

I just took some photos of a newer green Kevlacat dive boat here in
the Bahamas with a break in the hull, apparently just from stress and
poor construction. The owner says that they were just motoring along
and that the boat filled up and sank. I saw no indication that it hit
anything. Supposedly someone else is having the same problems with
another one on Green Turtle Cay, just north of here. If you are buying
a boat....

The starboard side of the right hull apparently just caved in, a crack
about two feet long which would have allowed lots of water to enter
that hull, depending upon speed and water conditions. The hull
appeared to be thin, but I'm no surveyor. That hull was definitely
warped, though, and you didn't have to be a surveyor to see that. Come
down and see it yourself at the main boatyard in Marsh Harbour,
Abacos. I'm betting whoever has title to it now would sell it cheap.
This is supposedly the green one featured on their website.

Assuming that KevlaCats are made with kevlar, the hull could be a
little thinner than with typical glass roving and still be as strong.
Sounds like it was either a case of sloppy workmanship or
overconfidence in material that resulted in an insufficient layup.

Inboard or outboard powered? If outboard, do you know if the rigged HP
was consistent with the rated HP?

On Mar 26, 9:02 pm, "Chuck Gould" wrote:
On Mar 26, 5:26?pm, "Messing In Boats" wrote:



On Mar 26, 8:18 am, "Messing In Boats" wrote:

I just took some photos of a newer green Kevlacat dive boat here in
the Bahamas with a break in the hull, apparently just from stress and
poor construction. The owner says that they were just motoring along
and that the boat filled up and sank. I saw no indication that it hit
anything. Supposedly someone else is having the same problems with
another one on Green Turtle Cay, just north of here. If you are buying
a boat....

The starboard side of the right hull apparently just caved in, a crack
about two feet long which would have allowed lots of water to enter
that hull, depending upon speed and water conditions. The hull
appeared to be thin, but I'm no surveyor. That hull was definitely
warped, though, and you didn't have to be a surveyor to see that. Come
down and see it yourself at the main boatyard in Marsh Harbour,
Abacos. I'm betting whoever has title to it now would sell it cheap.
This is supposedly the green one featured on their website.

Assuming that KevlaCats are made with kevlar, the hull could be a
little thinner than with typical glass roving and still be as strong.
Sounds like it was either a case of sloppy workmanship or
overconfidence in material that resulted in an insufficient layup.

Inboard or outboard powered? If outboard, do you know if the rigged HP
was consistent with the rated HP?

Inboard, some kind of German diesels I've never heard of

On 28 Mar 2007 17:26:19 -0700, "Messing In Boats"
wrote:

Assuming that KevlaCats are made with kevlar, the hull could be a
little thinner than with typical glass roving and still be as strong.
Sounds like it was either a case of sloppy workmanship or
overconfidence in material that resulted in an insufficient layup.

Inboard or outboard powered? If outboard, do you know if the rigged HP
was consistent with the rated HP?

Inboard, some kind of German diesels I've never heard of

Steyr?

http://kevlacat.com/series3200.shtml

On 26 Mar 2007 18:02:42 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

Assuming that KevlaCats are made with kevlar, the hull could be a
little thinner than with typical glass roving and still be as strong.
Sounds like it was either a case of sloppy workmanship or
overconfidence in material that resulted in an insufficient layup.

Or insufficient structural framing allowing panel flexing. Kevlar
doesn't like that very much and will delaminate.

Same problem with carbon fiber. Remember the America's Cup boat that
broke in half and sank?