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This item addresses a local issue, but there are probably similar
situations in other areas as well..... ************** "Back Away From the Boat Soap, and Keep Both Hands in the Air!" (Part One: The Investigation Begins) Few members of the general public are aware that the Boats Afloat portion of last January's Seattle Boat Show was at risk for closure only a day before the event began. Advance ticket sales were brisk, the docks were secure, the boats and exhibitors were in place, and everything seemed ready to go. A phone call from a zealous environmentalist to the City of Seattle, Department of Public Utilities, almost scuttled the entire event. Louise Kulzer, (Surface Water Quality Team Supervisor) and Eric Autrey (Environmental Compliance Inspector) responded to a complaint that a large number of boats were being washed at Chandler's Cove. The telephone tipster reported that there were soap suds visible on the surface of Lake Union, and when the representatives from the City of Seattle arrived they did indeed find several brokers, dealers, and boat detail companies scrubbing away the airborne urban grime that had settled on the inventory. "And it wasn't just soap," according to Kulzer. "We found people using chlorinated cleaners for decks and other surfaces, and it was all being allowed to drain off the boats and into the lake." An amicable discussion between the City inspectors, the Northwest Yacht Brokers Association administrators, and some NYBA board members (including Ray Rairdon of Ray Rairdon Yacht Sales) resulted in an agreement whereby Association employees were sent out to the docks to instruct the boat dealers to stop all exterior cleaning and detailing. "We also agreed to form an environmental committee within the NYBA," reported Rairdon, "and the show was allowed to go on." Ray Rairdon's account of this event inspired us to look into the City of Seattle and State of Washington regulations regarding the use of soap when cleaning boats. We discovered some important contradictions and inconsistencies between the City of Seattle Municipal Code and applicable state laws, as well as information on a Washington State Department of Ecology web page that could be interpreted as specifically advising boaters to violate a state RCW. We opened a can of bureaucratic worms. In a discussion with Louise Kulzer, Andy Ryan, and Eric Autry of the City of Seattle Department of Public Utilities, we learned that a section of the Seattle Municipal Code that pertains to storm water runoff specifically prohibits the discharge of any pollutants into a storm sewer system that drains to a lake, stream, or body of sal****er. It is also illegal to discharge a pollutant directly into any lake, stream, or body of sal****er. Soap is considered a pollutant, and Kulzer shared some of the scientific rationale for such a classification. "Soap itself is toxic," she said. "Even the so-called biodegradable soaps are poisonous in enough concentration. People would like to think that using a biodegradable soap is going to address the problem, but it does not. As the soap biodegrades it consumes oxygen from the water, and when the biodegradation is complete there are still some residual organic compounds left behind. Among those compounds are 'endocrine disruptors' that are similar in function to hormones found in birth control pills. Fish and other aquatic species exposed to these endocrine disruptors experience trouble reproducing, and have even been known to switch genders and become sterile." "Another reason that soap is such a problem," explained Kulzer, "is due to the way that soap is designed to work. Soap binds to grease and fats and makes it easy for them to be lifted off a surface. Unfortunately, the gills of fish are primarily fatty tissue and the soap binds to the gills and makes it more difficult for fish to extract oxygen from the water." "What about concentration?" we asked. "Wouldn't there have to be an enormous amount of soap dumped into the billions of gallons of Puget Sound to have a measurable effect on aquatic species?" "The concentration issue is something of a moving target," said Kulzer. "But we collect water samples a variety of sources and we know that there is a sufficient amount of soap residue to have an effect." We asked, "Why do you single out boats as a source for soap pollution? Aren't the 200,000 cars in the City of Seattle that get hosed down every sunny Saturday with a brush, a bucket, and a few ounces of dishwashing soap also draining into the storm drains and ultimately polluting the lakes or Puget Sound? We've never heard of anybody being hassled for washing their car." The answer was astonishing. "When the Municipal Code was written to address introducing pollutants into the storm water drainage system, the private washing of automobiles was specifically excluded from regulation. We encourage people to use a commercial car wash that recycles the wash and rinse water, or to drive their car onto their lawn prior to washing it so that the soap soaks into their grass. But if somebody wants to wash his or her own car and the soapy runoff gets into the storm drain system they aren't violating any portion of the Municipal Code." (Rather obviously, the politicians in office when the soap discharge portions of the Municipal Code were codified had an innate instinct for political survival. Telling a couple of hundred thousand automobile owners that it was suddenly "illegal" to wash a car in a driveway would result in an angry populace storming the barricades at City Hall). Eric Autrey added, "As far as enforcement goes, we are a complaint- driven organization. We aren't going to be skulking around the yacht clubs or marinas with binoculars looking for people who might be washing a boat. We do routinely inspect boatyards and other commercial repair facilities, and I can say that if we happen to observe a private boat owner washing a boat in a way that gets soap into the water while we're doing a commercial inspection we will take the time to enforce the Municipal Code and ask the boater to stop. Other than that, you're not likely to see one anybody from the Department of Public Utilities unless there's a specific complaint- and we were responding to a complaint when we inspected the Boat Show last January." So it appears that a heavy hammer hangs over the heads of boaters. We all have far too much invested in even the most humble boats to forego washing and maintaining them, yet when doing so we are technically violating a law that is enforced selectively and inconsistently. The vast majority of boaters would prefer to operate legally. After our discussion with the folks from the City of Seattle, Department of Public Utilities, it initially appeared that one solution might be to petition the City Council to amend the Municipal Code to extend the same exemption granted to private auto washers to include boats. As we will report in next month's issue, our conversation with the Washington State Department of Ecology revealed that revising the Seattle Municipal Code would not only fail to resolve the potential legal problems for boat washers in Seattle, boat washing anywhere in the state is subject to serious restriction. We did get some specific advice from the DOE about a method with which at least some portions of a boat can be legally washed with soap, and we will share that information as well. |
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![]() "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message ... In message oups.com, Chuck Gould sprach forth the following: "Soap itself is toxic," she said. "Even the so-called biodegradable soaps are poisonous in enough concentration. People would like to think that using a biodegradable soap is going to address the problem, but it does not. As the soap biodegrades it consumes oxygen from the water, and when the biodegradation is complete there are still some residual organic compounds left behind. Among those compounds are 'endocrine disruptors' that are similar in function to hormones found in birth control pills. Fish and other aquatic species exposed to these endocrine disruptors experience trouble reproducing, and have even been known to switch genders and become sterile." How many people have become sterile from taking bubble baths? These people are in-****ing-sane. Remember we are talking about the west coast tofu mentality. Imagine all the things we did and *survived* while growing up...................................things they are a changing. |
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Remember we are talking about the west coast tofu mentality.
Not everyone on the west coast eats tofu. I hate that stuff. Steak for me please. I am an environmentlist myself and reading this article makes me a little disturbed. The thing is you can't just tell people no. You have to give them a better alternative. They said that you shouldn't even use biodegradable soap because, even though it is better, it is still not ideal. Well come up with a better solution. I am sure boaters don't want to pollute the water they live on or kill the ecosystem but you need to give an alternative. SOMETHING here people. Those groups always drive me nuts because there are so many things that are better for the environment that can be produced cheaper and save money but these types of environmentalists just say 'oh just be dirty and hungry'. As an Environmental Studies major I learned to hate hippies. I can't stand that people say 'you all should be more like me then the world would be perfect'. I would say use biodegradeble soap and they should invent a fully clean degradeable solution here. Seems like something that could make everyone happy. |
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