On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:06:14 -0400, HK wrote:

RCE wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...

Perhaps you could show me an example of 'standing up for Communist
China'.
Su Buying from them. Very simple.

I would love to hear you say you buy nothing made in China, including
components.

Assuming I have a choice, and I'm aware of where something's made, I buy
as little as possible from China. You probably find that odd, the idea of
reading labels.

I don't knowingly buy anything made in the PRC. Sometimes you can't avoid
it, or you find out about it after the sale.

The world is changing. We have a much more global economy. Isolationism is
a thing of the past. Don't get stuck in the mud.

Eisboch



It's not isolationism. I'm probably the only poster here who actually
spent a considerable amount of time in the PRC.

And a lot of time in Vietnam, and a lot of time in the Chesapeake Bay!

HK wrote:
RCE wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...

Perhaps you could show me an example of 'standing up for
Communist China'.
Su Buying from them. Very simple.

I would love to hear you say you buy nothing made in China, including
components.

Assuming I have a choice, and I'm aware of where something's made, I
buy as little as possible from China. You probably find that odd,
the idea of reading labels.

I don't knowingly buy anything made in the PRC. Sometimes you can't
avoid it, or you find out about it after the sale.

The world is changing. We have a much more global economy.
Isolationism is a thing of the past. Don't get stuck in the mud.

Eisboch


It's not isolationism. I'm probably the only poster here who actually
spent a considerable amount of time in the PRC.

Was that when you were researching your Lobster Boat?

On Thu, 31 May 2007 14:21:11 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 31 May 2007 10:26:27 -0400, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
y.

None of these characters ever attacks the outrageous wages/bonuses paid
to
the corporate elite...even when they don't perform and lead the
companies on
the downward spiral.




It's part of being self-satisfied, smug conservatrash. (c.f., Herring,
Smithers, and the rest of the assholes here)

Don, don't you find Harrie's comments especially rewarding? *He is such a
neat guy*. I can see why you've got him on a pedestal. He deserves it!

He sounds like a smug, self-satisfied liberal, wouldn't you say?

I wouldn't! Sounds like *you* have Harry on the pedestal...you're always
praising him..calling him "such a
neat guy" etc.


I do! He *is* about the neatest guy around, don't you think?

Did you look up the owls? I noted you had no more questions about them.

Gene Kearns wrote:
On 31 May 2007 18:04:35 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute"
wrote:

In message , Gene Kearns
sprach forth the following:

Maybe if we didn't have an influx of cheap crap
"An influx of cheap crap" - a perfect description of illegal immigration.

I don't know that I'd stoop to using those words, but it is virtually
the same problem as walmart, et al.

Illegal immigration should and MUST be stopped, but it is not in the
interests of this administration to do so. I hope the next
administration can read immigration laws for content and develop
enough courage to do the right thing.



Bush has been a major player in the desire to sell out American workers,
he's not the only one to blame. Look to corporate America, whose goal
it is to revert back to the 18th and 19th Centuries in this country when
employees were little more than chattel. Real wages are going down the
toilet, and benefits are disappearing. Unlike most of the rest of the
civilized Western world, we don't have any system of national health
care or even a serious system to retrain workers whose jobs are
disappearing.

Illegals are easy to exploit and help further drive down the wages of
American workers. We're headed down a long slide right into the toilet.

Never has the Republican mantra of "I've got mine, so screw you" been
more apt. Perhaps in 25 years or so we'll have a really violent worker
revolution and we'll see lots of multinational corporate heads on pikes.
I doubt I'll be here to see it, though, and that makes me sad.

Gene Kearns wrote:
On 31 May 2007 18:05:45 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute"
wrote:


All these companies are far more profitable than you are, and they are 100%
dependent on the buying decisions of consumers. So are you more envious of
the successful, or disdainful of your fellow citizens?

My wife teaches middle school.

She has students that tell her that she can teach them nothing
worthwhile, since they can make more money on a street corner in a
weekend than she makes in a month. They are neither lying nor
exaggerating.

They are much more profitable than she is, but she thinks they are
wrong.

So, should I tell her that she is mere envious of the more successful,
or just disdainful of her students?


Your boy Fred here is a living example of precisely what is wrong with
this country: ignorant, selfish, and stupid beyond belief. Oh, and no
balls, either.

On 31 May 2007 18:05:45 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute"
wrote:

In message , John H. sprach
forth the following:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 11:27:33 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On 31 May 2007 15:09:51 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute"
wrote:

In message , Gene Kearns
sprach forth the following:

I still think it is the wrong thing to do to trade with companies that
increase the national debt to China and cut other Americans out of the
potential for earning some part of that purchase price.

Not everyone can afford a $3,000 Viking fridge.

Maybe if we didn't have an influx of cheap crap, greater volume
manufacturing of the Viking would make it a lot more affordable. I
think you'll have to admit that it is a better quality American Made
product than any crap walmart sells.

...or Sears, Penny's, Macy's, Dollar Store, K-Mart, etc.

All these companies are far more profitable than you are, and they are 100%
dependent on the buying decisions of consumers. So are you more envious of
the successful, or disdainful of your fellow citizens?

Have you followed the thread at all, or are you just jumping in with
assumptions?

On Thu, 31 May 2007 14:34:41 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On 31 May 2007 18:04:35 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute"
wrote:

In message , Gene Kearns
sprach forth the following:

Maybe if we didn't have an influx of cheap crap

"An influx of cheap crap" - a perfect description of illegal immigration.

I don't know that I'd stoop to using those words, but it is virtually
the same problem as walmart, et al.

Illegal immigration should and MUST be stopped, but it is not in the
interests of this administration to do so. I hope the next
administration can read immigration laws for content and develop
enough courage to do the right thing.

It's for sure in the interest of Democrats to allow illegal immigration.
That will become their voting base soon. The Republican Party will become
history, and we'll have a one party country. Luckily, I'll be dead and gone
then.

BTW, I just got back from Home Depot. I checked fluorescent light bulbs.
All of them were made in China. Then I checked GE's regular light bulbs.
Same result. Then I looked at a few other things, all made in China. I
think, except for lumber, it may be hard to find something in Home Depot
that's *not* made in China. BUT - the Black and Decker edger blade wasn't
made in China! It was made in Mexico!

I also noticed that all the big overhead signs are now in two languages,
English is still printed a little bigger, but I imagine that'll change
soon. Doesn't it cost the consumer money to reprint all those signs? Am I
not paying for the failure of the Spanish speaking immigrants to learn a
little English?

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 31 May 2007 14:42:46 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On 31 May 2007 18:05:45 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute"
wrote:



All these companies are far more profitable than you are, and they are
100%
dependent on the buying decisions of consumers. So are you more envious
of
the successful, or disdainful of your fellow citizens?

My wife teaches middle school.

She has students that tell her that she can teach them nothing
worthwhile, since they can make more money on a street corner in a
weekend than she makes in a month. They are neither lying nor
exaggerating.

They are much more profitable than she is, but she thinks they are
wrong.

So, should I tell her that she is mere envious of the more successful,
or just disdainful of her students?

You should tell her she has one of the most difficult jobs in the world.
The fact that she can put up with it, day after day, is a testament to her
patience. I lasted only ten years, by which time I was totally sick of 8th
graders.

Everybody wave the flag and get out your hankies.

On Thu, 31 May 2007 14:42:46 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On 31 May 2007 18:05:45 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute"
wrote:



All these companies are far more profitable than you are, and they are 100%
dependent on the buying decisions of consumers. So are you more envious of
the successful, or disdainful of your fellow citizens?

My wife teaches middle school.

She has students that tell her that she can teach them nothing
worthwhile, since they can make more money on a street corner in a
weekend than she makes in a month. They are neither lying nor
exaggerating.

They are much more profitable than she is, but she thinks they are
wrong.

So, should I tell her that she is mere envious of the more successful,
or just disdainful of her students?

You should tell her she has one of the most difficult jobs in the world.
The fact that she can put up with it, day after day, is a testament to her
patience. I lasted only ten years, by which time I was totally sick of 8th
graders.

Good luck to her. Give her a big hug every day when she gets home.

On Thu, 31 May 2007 14:53:32 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On 31 May 2007 18:04:35 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute"
wrote:

In message , Gene Kearns
sprach forth the following:

Maybe if we didn't have an influx of cheap crap
"An influx of cheap crap" - a perfect description of illegal immigration.

I don't know that I'd stoop to using those words, but it is virtually
the same problem as walmart, et al.

Illegal immigration should and MUST be stopped, but it is not in the
interests of this administration to do so. I hope the next
administration can read immigration laws for content and develop
enough courage to do the right thing.



Bush has been a major player in the desire to sell out American workers,
he's not the only one to blame. Look to corporate America, whose goal
it is to revert back to the 18th and 19th Centuries in this country when
employees were little more than chattel. Real wages are going down the
toilet, and benefits are disappearing. Unlike most of the rest of the
civilized Western world, we don't have any system of national health
care or even a serious system to retrain workers whose jobs are
disappearing.

Illegals are easy to exploit and help further drive down the wages of
American workers. We're headed down a long slide right into the toilet.

Never has the Republican mantra of "I've got mine, so screw you" been
more apt. Perhaps in 25 years or so we'll have a really violent worker
revolution and we'll see lots of multinational corporate heads on pikes.
I doubt I'll be here to see it, though, and that makes me sad.


Yes, I'd forgotten that the liberals are doing all they can to stop illegal
immigration and return the millions of illegals that are already here. Of
course, those folks don't affect wages because they're a 'mythical' supply.
When there is no competition for labor, why should anyone pay more than the
minimum?