RCE wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...

Perhaps you could show me an example of 'standing up for Communist
China'.
Su Buying from them. Very simple.

I would love to hear you say you buy nothing made in China, including
components.

Assuming I have a choice, and I'm aware of where something's made, I buy
as little as possible from China. You probably find that odd, the idea of
reading labels.

I don't knowingly buy anything made in the PRC. Sometimes you can't avoid
it, or you find out about it after the sale.

The world is changing. We have a much more global economy. Isolationism is
a thing of the past. Don't get stuck in the mud.

Eisboch



It's not isolationism. I'm probably the only poster here who actually
spent a considerable amount of time in the PRC.

On Thu, 31 May 2007 10:26:27 -0400, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
y.

None of these characters ever attacks the outrageous wages/bonuses paid to
the corporate elite...even when they don't perform and lead the companies on
the downward spiral.




It's part of being self-satisfied, smug conservatrash. (c.f., Herring,
Smithers, and the rest of the assholes here)

Don, don't you find Harrie's comments especially rewarding? He is such a
neat guy. I can see why you've got him on a pedestal. He deserves it!

He sounds like a smug, self-satisfied liberal, wouldn't you say?

On Thu, 31 May 2007 10:14:01 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:05:08 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 08:32:39 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:10:36 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:



Gene,

Most economist would tell you that the selfish respect for their own
pocketbook is actually the best thing for the American Worker, the
American Consumer and the American Economy.

I guess my response, then, is that we have yet another group of
advisors that are educated far beyond their intelligence.

Walmart abandoned the "Made in America" philosophy when Sam Walton
died... and as far as I am concerned walmart died with him.

There is no way that sending thousands of jobs overseas and billions
of dollars overseas is good for America or Americans. I can't, for the
life of me, understand the change in the American spirit..... when we
proudly bought the best goods available.... and were able to own and
maintain those tools for many years. We now buy cheap, crappy, made in
China junk that is quickly used up and fills our landfills. The net
result of this is a 20 BILLIION dollar PER MONTH balance of trade
deficit with China which they have turned around to be holders of
about 25% (last I heard) of the US's total debt.

Every time you shop at walmart, just know that you are increasing the
national debt to China and cutting another American out of the
potential for earning some part of that purchase price.

This is not a closed economy. A selfish respect for one's own
pocketbook does not mean that you are doing the right thing by your
country or your countrymen. This isn't news.... it is just a shoe on
the other foot. We ought to be smart enough not to fall victim to the
practices and policies that filled the American coffers out of other
countries poor business deals. Apparently, we are not.

Well, you'd have to say the same for Penny's, Macy's, Sears, and the Dollar
Store. Maybe you'd change the country, but the principle would remain. Yet,
I see no liberals raising hell about Penny's!

I don't think it has anything with being "liberal" or not.... I don't
consider myself a "liberal." I think is has to do with walmart being
the worst of the worst.

I don't shop at any of the stores above. I used to proudly shop at
Sears and buy the "best" item, knowing that I could probably keep it
for many years. Long before I knew of walmart... somewhere in the 80's
I guess, Sears started buying foreign made junk and I stopped trading
with them.

I still think it is the wrong thing to do to trade with companies that
increase the national debt to China and cut other Americans out of the
potential for earning some part of that purchase price.

I am really confused by people considering themselves "conservatives"
that stand up for Communist China and their trading partners in the
US.

Perhaps you could show me an example of 'standing up for Communist China'.
You have made derogatory comments about Wal Mart. Your rationale applies to
most of the stores in the US. Why not just indict them all? I don't 'like'
Wal Mart any better than any of the stores I mentioned earlier. It's close
to me, so I go there when I want something they have.

On Thu, 31 May 2007 15:19:32 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 31 May 2007 10:14:01 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:05:08 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 08:32:39 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:10:36 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:



Gene,

Most economist would tell you that the selfish respect for their own
pocketbook is actually the best thing for the American Worker, the
American Consumer and the American Economy.

I guess my response, then, is that we have yet another group of
advisors that are educated far beyond their intelligence.

Walmart abandoned the "Made in America" philosophy when Sam Walton
died... and as far as I am concerned walmart died with him.

There is no way that sending thousands of jobs overseas and billions
of dollars overseas is good for America or Americans. I can't, for the
life of me, understand the change in the American spirit..... when we
proudly bought the best goods available.... and were able to own and
maintain those tools for many years. We now buy cheap, crappy, made in
China junk that is quickly used up and fills our landfills. The net
result of this is a 20 BILLIION dollar PER MONTH balance of trade
deficit with China which they have turned around to be holders of
about 25% (last I heard) of the US's total debt.

Every time you shop at walmart, just know that you are increasing the
national debt to China and cutting another American out of the
potential for earning some part of that purchase price.

This is not a closed economy. A selfish respect for one's own
pocketbook does not mean that you are doing the right thing by your
country or your countrymen. This isn't news.... it is just a shoe on
the other foot. We ought to be smart enough not to fall victim to the
practices and policies that filled the American coffers out of other
countries poor business deals. Apparently, we are not.

Well, you'd have to say the same for Penny's, Macy's, Sears, and the
Dollar
Store. Maybe you'd change the country, but the principle would remain.
Yet,
I see no liberals raising hell about Penny's!

I don't think it has anything with being "liberal" or not.... I don't
consider myself a "liberal." I think is has to do with walmart being
the worst of the worst.

I don't shop at any of the stores above. I used to proudly shop at
Sears and buy the "best" item, knowing that I could probably keep it
for many years. Long before I knew of walmart... somewhere in the 80's
I guess, Sears started buying foreign made junk and I stopped trading
with them.

I still think it is the wrong thing to do to trade with companies that
increase the national debt to China and cut other Americans out of the
potential for earning some part of that purchase price.

I am really confused by people considering themselves "conservatives"
that stand up for Communist China and their trading partners in the
US.

Perhaps you could show me an example of 'standing up for Communist China'.


Su Buying from them. Very simple.


I would love to hear you say you buy nothing made in China, including
components.

On Thu, 31 May 2007 11:27:33 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On 31 May 2007 15:09:51 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute"
wrote:

In message , Gene Kearns
sprach forth the following:

I still think it is the wrong thing to do to trade with companies that
increase the national debt to China and cut other Americans out of the
potential for earning some part of that purchase price.

Not everyone can afford a $3,000 Viking fridge.

Maybe if we didn't have an influx of cheap crap, greater volume
manufacturing of the Viking would make it a lot more affordable. I
think you'll have to admit that it is a better quality American Made
product than any crap walmart sells.

....or Sears, Penny's, Macy's, Dollar Store, K-Mart, etc.

On Thu, 31 May 2007 15:36:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .


Perhaps you could show me an example of 'standing up for Communist
China'.


Su Buying from them. Very simple.


I would love to hear you say you buy nothing made in China, including
components.


Assuming I have a choice, and I'm aware of where something's made, I buy as
little as possible from China. You probably find that odd, the idea of
reading labels.


No, as a matter of fact, I feel the same way. I'd much rather buy well-made
American products. That's why I'm still running my GMC pickup with 133,000
miles on it.

But, I did buy the wife a Toyota Highlander, which she dearly loves.

On Thu, 31 May 2007 11:41:35 -0400, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...

Perhaps you could show me an example of 'standing up for Communist
China'.

Su Buying from them. Very simple.

I would love to hear you say you buy nothing made in China, including
components.


Assuming I have a choice, and I'm aware of where something's made, I buy as
little as possible from China. You probably find that odd, the idea of
reading labels.




I don't knowingly buy anything made in the PRC. Sometimes you can't
avoid it, or you find out about it after the sale.

Doug would tell you to read the label, if you could.

On Thu, 31 May 2007 11:52:19 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 11:43:49 -0500, John H.
wrote:



No, as a matter of fact, I feel the same way. I'd much rather buy well-made
American products. That's why I'm still running my GMC pickup with 133,000
miles on it.

But, I did buy the wife a Toyota Highlander, which she dearly loves.

I guess love makes us make bad decisions.

One of my coworkers that damn near went down with the USS Lexington,
reluctantly bought his wife the Mitsubishi SUV that she liked, in
spite of the fact that he declares that, "the *******s tried to kill
me in WWII."

LOL! Well, if Toyotas were made in North Vietnam, I might have had second
thoughts. But, Consumer Reports consistently ranks the Highlander at the
top of the SUV heap.

"HK" wrote in message
. ..


It's not isolationism. I'm probably the only poster here who actually
spent a considerable amount of time in the PRC.

I spent a week in Wuxi. Longest week of my life.


Eisboch

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 31 May 2007 10:26:27 -0400, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
y.

None of these characters ever attacks the outrageous wages/bonuses paid
to
the corporate elite...even when they don't perform and lead the
companies on
the downward spiral.




It's part of being self-satisfied, smug conservatrash. (c.f., Herring,
Smithers, and the rest of the assholes here)

Don, don't you find Harrie's comments especially rewarding? *He is such a
neat guy*. I can see why you've got him on a pedestal. He deserves it!

He sounds like a smug, self-satisfied liberal, wouldn't you say?

I wouldn't! Sounds like *you* have Harry on the pedestal...you're always
praising him..calling him "such a
neat guy" etc.