On Aug 29, 7:02 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
He plead to disorderly conduct for tapping his foot. The cop busted
him based on his own needs. The cops have been criticized for a long
time about this bathroom, they needed to make a statement, the guy
happened to go take a **** during the scam.

Right...Craig was arrested for tapping his foot. That's it.

That and the fantasies or the thought police, read the court papers...

On Aug 29, 7:02 am, HK wrote:


The only thing about this case that is significant to me is that Craig
is yet another example of right-wing Republican hypocrisy,

Maybe it would be if anything had happened, but your party is just
making it up as they go along...

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 07:02:59 -0400, HK wrote:



The only thing about this case that is significant to me is that Craig
is yet another example of right-wing Republican hypocrisy, an outed gay
man who for years has fought against gay issues and who is the darling
of right-wing nutcase organizations like the anti-Family Research Council.

I saw a doctor who knows of these matters on TV yesterday, and he said
that regardless of the truth of what happened in that head (keeping
this boating-related) that is no proof that Craig is "gay."
According to this doctor such conduct, even if it happened, does not
necessarily make Craig "gay."
Given that, your argument that Craig is a hypocrite doesn't hold
water. As far as I know, Craig has never taken a public stand on
foot-tapping and the other activities he stands accused of.
If I have offended any of the true "gays" here, I apologize in
advance, as that is not my intent.

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 07:02:59 -0400, HK wrote:



The only thing about this case that is significant to me is that Craig
is yet another example of right-wing Republican hypocrisy, an outed gay
man who for years has fought against gay issues and who is the darling
of right-wing nutcase organizations like the anti-Family Research Council.

I saw a doctor who knows of these matters on TV yesterday, and he said
that regardless of the truth of what happened in that head (keeping
this boating-related) that is no proof that Craig is "gay."
According to this doctor such conduct, even if it happened, does not
necessarily make Craig "gay."
Given that, your argument that Craig is a hypocrite doesn't hold
water. As far as I know, Craig has never taken a public stand on
foot-tapping and the other activities he stands accused of.
If I have offended any of the true "gays" here, I apologize in
advance, as that is not my intent.

--Vic

I know little about this case..other than what I read here and snippets on
CNN.
My only question about this Craig character...why did he plead guilty to
anything if he's completely innocent.
Just doesn't make sense to me.....

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:06:23 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 07:02:59 -0400, HK wrote:



The only thing about this case that is significant to me is that Craig
is yet another example of right-wing Republican hypocrisy, an outed gay
man who for years has fought against gay issues and who is the darling
of right-wing nutcase organizations like the anti-Family Research Council.

I saw a doctor who knows of these matters on TV yesterday, and he said
that regardless of the truth of what happened in that head (keeping
this boating-related) that is no proof that Craig is "gay."
According to this doctor such conduct, even if it happened, does not
necessarily make Craig "gay."
Given that, your argument that Craig is a hypocrite doesn't hold
water. As far as I know, Craig has never taken a public stand on
foot-tapping and the other activities he stands accused of.
If I have offended any of the true "gays" here, I apologize in
advance, as that is not my intent.

--Vic

I know little about this case..other than what I read here and snippets on
CNN.
My only question about this Craig character...why did he plead guilty to
anything if he's completely innocent.
Just doesn't make sense to me.....

Assuming his actions were truly "misconstrued," he figured copping to
the disorderly plea would avoid the embarrassment of a trial.
IOW, it would "just go away." I think he said that.
But the press got wind of it, so that didn't work, and he's catching
now what he would have caught then.
It was a calculated risk that didn't add up right.

--Vic

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On Aug 29, 6:35 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:38:33 -0700, Chuck Gould

wrote:

On Aug 28, 4:47?pm, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:40:57 -0700, Chuck Gould

wrote:

On Aug 28, 4:28?pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 4:20 pm, HK wrote:
. At first, Craig objected to the man's anonymity, but
agreed to listen. The man's voice was disguised.
Craig said the man is an activist. "The gay movement, we know it
for
what it is. It's now aggressive and it's liberal and it's ...
read more
There is nothing here but a guy who taps his foot while taking a
****,
an actiist cop running a sting, and a bunch of political activists
making up stories, Not one shred of evedince, anywhere, at all,
period. And the guy pled guilty to "disorderly conduct" for tapping
his foot, no lewd conduct, just tapping while taking a ****, that's
all folks, time to go home now.
But I am guessing you don't want to talk about Harold Ford's
conviction today for taking a $50.000 bribe, forbid we try to stop
the
dems from selling us out...
Harry is so blinded by partisanship that he fails to see the most
frightening thing about this entire incident.
The Senator was arrested for tapping his foot while sitting on a
public toilet. Is sitting on the toilet a crime? We better all hope
not. How about tapping your foot?
The readily available information, including the arrest report makes
your
"interpretation" laughable.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
So you say..........but yet you supply none of the details you rely
upon.
Pretty cheap argument.

Sorry, I thought you were better informed and could find news stories
and facts
on the internet at least at the level of a 5 year old. Spoon feeding it
is,
then...

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0828071craig1.html

Jesus. Craig pleaded guilty in relation to inappropriate behavior in
public men's room. Chuck must think Craig was passing gas.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

He plead to disorderly conduct for tapping his foot. The cop busted
him based on his own needs. The cops have been criticized for a long
time about this bathroom, they needed to make a statement, the guy
happened to go take a **** during the scam. Same thing around here.
Every two years right before the elections the cops go out and bust a
bunch of HS kids smoking pot to "prove" they are doing their job. Most
if not all of the charges go away soon after the elections.



Jeeeeeeeeezus.

The guy plead guilty- game over.
He should resign immediately.

On Aug 29, 1:38 pm, "Rom" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...





On Aug 29, 6:35 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:38:33 -0700, Chuck Gould

wrote:

On Aug 28, 4:47?pm, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:40:57 -0700, Chuck Gould

wrote:

On Aug 28, 4:28?pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 4:20 pm, HK wrote:
. At first, Craig objected to the man's anonymity, but
agreed to listen. The man's voice was disguised.
Craig said the man is an activist. "The gay movement, we know it
for
what it is. It's now aggressive and it's liberal and it's ...
read more
There is nothing here but a guy who taps his foot while taking a
****,
an actiist cop running a sting, and a bunch of political activists
making up stories, Not one shred of evedince, anywhere, at all,
period. And the guy pled guilty to "disorderly conduct" for tapping
his foot, no lewd conduct, just tapping while taking a ****, that's
all folks, time to go home now.
But I am guessing you don't want to talk about Harold Ford's
conviction today for taking a $50.000 bribe, forbid we try to stop
the
dems from selling us out...
Harry is so blinded by partisanship that he fails to see the most
frightening thing about this entire incident.
The Senator was arrested for tapping his foot while sitting on a
public toilet. Is sitting on the toilet a crime? We better all hope
not. How about tapping your foot?
The readily available information, including the arrest report makes
your
"interpretation" laughable.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
So you say..........but yet you supply none of the details you rely
upon.
Pretty cheap argument.

Sorry, I thought you were better informed and could find news stories
and facts
on the internet at least at the level of a 5 year old. Spoon feeding it
is,
then...

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0828071craig1.html

Jesus. Craig pleaded guilty in relation to inappropriate behavior in
public men's room. Chuck must think Craig was passing gas.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

He plead to disorderly conduct for tapping his foot. The cop busted
him based on his own needs. The cops have been criticized for a long
time about this bathroom, they needed to make a statement, the guy
happened to go take a **** during the scam. Same thing around here.
Every two years right before the elections the cops go out and bust a
bunch of HS kids smoking pot to "prove" they are doing their job. Most
if not all of the charges go away soon after the elections.

Jeeeeeeeeezus.

The guy plead guilty- game over.
He should resign immediately.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Jeeeeeeeeeze. Disorderly conduct, maybe Bush should just kill himself,
yeah, that's it, and, and, maybe they should all resign so Nancy can
take her rightful place! Yeah, did you hear he also beat some cats,
man, everybody in red states should be forced to pay a tax!

Double standard, period. Guess he should have just been caught being
bribed, or smoking crack with hookers. Or would that be different
cause he is still a repub, well of course it would