Because the thermometer record from ground stations is contaminated by
poor station locations, we need good temperature proxies as a function
of year to "investigate" global warming. So, I suggest the following:

1. The per capita consumption of "Big Gulp" sodas at convenience
stores.
2. The per capita amount spent on air conditioning.
3. The number of visits to municipal pools
4. The per capita amount spent on water toys
5 The ratio of money spent in the AC comfort of enclosed malls to
that spent in isolated mom and pop stores.
6. The number of movies about penguins (desire for cold weather).
7. The fraction of cars with AC
8. Rising cost of a lift ticket at a ski resort (this relates to the
scarcity of snow)
9. Number of retirees who die of heatstroke in AZ retirement cities.
10. Popularity of Starbucks frozen lattes
11. Reduced fatal car accident rates in snow

It is really alarming that ALL of these proxies show massive amounts
of warming in recent years. Because good Global Warming Science
depends on use of proxies, I ask other people for their ideas of such
proxies.

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:15:40 -0700, Frogwatch
wrote:

Because the thermometer record from ground stations is contaminated by
poor station locations, we need good temperature proxies as a function
of year to "investigate" global warming. So, I suggest the following:

1. The per capita consumption of "Big Gulp" sodas at convenience
stores.
2. The per capita amount spent on air conditioning.
3. The number of visits to municipal pools
4. The per capita amount spent on water toys
5 The ratio of money spent in the AC comfort of enclosed malls to
that spent in isolated mom and pop stores.
6. The number of movies about penguins (desire for cold weather).
7. The fraction of cars with AC
8. Rising cost of a lift ticket at a ski resort (this relates to the
scarcity of snow)
9. Number of retirees who die of heatstroke in AZ retirement cities.
10. Popularity of Starbucks frozen lattes
11. Reduced fatal car accident rates in snow

It is really alarming that ALL of these proxies show massive amounts
of warming in recent years. Because good Global Warming Science
depends on use of proxies, I ask other people for their ideas of such
proxies.

The number of homes in Florida that get reclassified to "waterfront."

--Vic

Frogwatch wrote:

Because the thermometer record from ground stations is contaminated by
poor station locations, we need good temperature proxies as a function
of year to "investigate" global warming. So, I suggest the following:

You're an ignorant American fascist. That's what the evidence suggests.

Genocide, secret prisons, torture, domestic surveillance ...

Got any other good ones?

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"kT" wrote in message
...
Frogwatch wrote:

Because the thermometer record from ground stations is contaminated by
poor station locations, we need good temperature proxies as a function
of year to "investigate" global warming. So, I suggest the following:

You're an ignorant American fascist. That's what the evidence suggests.

Genocide, secret prisons, torture, domestic surveillance ...

Got any other good ones?

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http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/orbit.html

Yup, the Frogs who treated Algeria as a slave colony, Indo-chin as a slave
colony. Watch those frogs.

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:15:40 -0700, Frogwatch
wrote:

It is really alarming that ALL of these proxies show massive amounts
of warming in recent years. Because good Global Warming Science
depends on use of proxies, I ask other people for their ideas of such
proxies.

Low Transom boats.

On Aug 30, 9:25 am, kT wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
Because the thermometer record from ground stations is contaminated by
poor station locations, we need good temperature proxies as a function
of year to "investigate" global warming. So, I suggest the following:

You're an ignorant American fascist. That's what the evidence suggests.

Genocide, secret prisons, torture, domestic surveillance ...

Yeah, and that's just Hillarys side of the family


Got any other good ones?

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Speaking of women that can kill without remorse, I heard an
interesting tidbit yesterday. Dr. Ruth, yes that Dr. Ruth, once served
as a sniper in the IDF (Isreal Defence Force). Maybe that's where she
learned how to handle a gun

On Aug 30, 5:25 pm, wrote:
On Aug 30, 9:25 am, kT wrote:

Frogwatch wrote:
Because the thermometer record from ground stations is contaminated by
poor station locations, we need good temperature proxies as a function
of year to "investigate" global warming. So, I suggest the following:

You're an ignorant American fascist. That's what the evidence suggests.

Genocide, secret prisons, torture, domestic surveillance ...

Yeah, and that's just Hillarys side of the family



Got any other good ones?

--
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Speaking of women that can kill without remorse, I heard an
interesting tidbit yesterday. Dr. Ruth, yes that Dr. Ruth, once served
as a sniper in the IDF (Isreal Defence Force). Maybe that's where she
learned how to handle a gun

This is OT but I read somewhere that the Dems want to outlaw SUVs but
some Repubs want everyone to get a hummer.........

"Calif Bill" wrote
Watch those frogs.

And it's even easier now that transparent frogs have been bred by the
Japanese.

"Frogwatch" wrote
Because the thermometer record from ground stations is contaminated by
poor station locations, we need good temperature proxies as a function
of year to "investigate" global warming. So, I suggest the following:

1. The per capita consumption of "Big Gulp" sodas at convenience
stores.

While proxies are helpful - especially for long term temperature records,
we also have direct measurements of surface warming from satellites, weather
baloons, boreholes, and sonar.

All show warming.

How sad for you that Science is never on your side.

How sad that you live in a little KKKonservative bubble of self delusion
and self imposed ignorance.

On Oct 10, 8:08 pm, "HangEveryRepubliKKKan"

How sad for you that Science is never on your side.

How sad that you live in a little KKKonservative bubble of self delusion
and self imposed ignorance.

And this is on yours?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2IlHgbOWj4o