On Sep 6, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote:

Really, does EVERYBODY want power windows?

Get used to the coming attractions. No auto mfj. is going to offer
crank windows as of this year, from what I gather. The cheap little
electric motors are easier for the factory to install.

Doesnt anybody else hate
those damned interior lights that dont turn off for 5 minutes?

I'm not a fan of them.

Does ANYBODY care about a "CHECK ENGINE" light that doesnt tell you
****?

No problem there. the light is easily covered with a strip of black
electrical tape (or stuff a pic of your wife,girlfriend grandkids in
front of it)!

On Sep 6, 10:58 pm, Jack Redington wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:16:34 -0700, Frogwatch wrote:

For awhile I was obsessed with a 1939 Chevy 2 ton dually truck with a
flat bed. It was as simple as it could be. However, even I admit
there have been a few good advances in automotive tech, like
electronic ignition. I can still set the timing on a vehicle with
points and condensor but doing it every few thou miles gets old. I
love modern tires compared to the old ones.

Those old GM's had a 216 inch straight 6 that didn't even feature an oil pump!
It was known as "splash lubrication". There were these little scoops bolted to
the bottoms of the con rods that splashed the oil around.

Yep and they ran great. No oil filter either and a oil-bath air cleaner
that had a wire/hardware cloth type mesh. My first car was a 1939 Master
85 four door sedan. The biggest draw back was the vacume driven
windshild wipers. When you hit the brakes they would sssloooowwww down -
sometimes to a crawl.

I had a thing for old cars in my teens and thats what I bought.

Capt Jack R..

My current truck is a 4 cyl Nissan 4wd but I have an old Dodge Ram to
tow the Tolman. Neither truck will last much longer. I keep the old
Nissan running just out of stubborness and because it makes my
employees feel bad that they drive new trucks while the boss drives a
beater.
Re-did the front brakes today. Noticed the front right 4wd driveaxle
rubber boot is shredded. It doesnt turn until I engage 4WD AND get
out and lock in the manual hubs so it may be OK since I have not used
it this year. SO, instead of buying a new 4wd front driveaxle, I
just cleaned it out, wrapped an old inner tube round it, greased it
real good and held it in place with cable ties. I bet I get another
year of use out of it. Center support bearing on the driveshaft goes
out every 75,000 miles and has gone agin so I took it off, I'll bite
the bullet and pay someone to press it off and put on a new one. Now
that summer is nearly over, here in humid N. FL, I have decided I want
to get my blower motor to work for ventilation but just about gave up
geting it out of the dash. Ventilation is for WIMPS. I really dont
want to fix the broken key switch cuz the way it is keeps my wife from
driving it. Tried to fix the door handles because I get tired of
rolling down the windows to open the door from the outside but found
all the little plastic bushings are gone so nothing in the doors
works. Maybe I'll get rid of the door handles and just keep em closed
with bungee cords.......

70-75 F250.
JR

Frogwatch wrote:

I b'leve my old Nissan is gonna soon go to old truck paradise but i'll
get another 25K miles outta her (it'll read 333,333 then) first. So,
what then? I need a tow vehicle for my boat and as you see I like to
keep my trucks waaaaay past any reasonable retirement age. However, I
loathe gadgets and power crap and ANYTHING that can get broke. Simple
is best, no power seats, no fu**&*g lights that dont turn off till I
go back to make sure the door isnt open, no built in GPS, no damned
radio, just SIMPLE transportation. Reliability and ease of fixing is a
major issue as is longevity. So, what is there?

A hi tek luddite



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On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:30:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

I'm thinking of a Toyota 4 Runner. The V8 will pull 7000lbs according to
the local salesman. Haven't checked any further than that as I'm thinking
of pulling something in the neighborhood of 3500.

If you do much towing you'll be happier with a longer wheelbase. It
helps to stabilize the trailer from swaying and bouncing.

Tim wrote:
On Sep 6, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote:

Really, does EVERYBODY want power windows?

Get used to the coming attractions. No auto mfj. is going to offer
crank windows as of this year, from what I gather. The cheap little
electric motors are easier for the factory to install.

Doesnt anybody else hate
those damned interior lights that dont turn off for 5 minutes?

I'm not a fan of them.

Does ANYBODY care about a "CHECK ENGINE" light that doesnt tell you
****?

No problem there. the light is easily covered with a strip of black
electrical tape (or stuff a pic of your wife,girlfriend grandkids in
front of it)!



The Check Engine light is also part of the pollution control system.
Every time I had the light go on, it was due to excess emissions,
because I did not tighten the gas cap tight enough.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:30:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

I'm thinking of a Toyota 4 Runner. The V8 will pull 7000lbs according to
the local salesman. Haven't checked any further than that as I'm thinking
of pulling something in the neighborhood of 3500.

If you do much towing you'll be happier with a longer wheelbase. It
helps to stabilize the trailer from swaying and bouncing.



Jeeez...ever towed a boat with a V8 4 Runner, Wayne? No? I didn't think
so. I have. I've towed a boat and trailer *over* the 4 Runner's capacity
without having the rig sway and bounce. The V8 4 Runner is a very, very
capable tow vehicle for reasonably sized boats. Even the V6 4 Runner
will handle a 3500 pound boat and trailer with aplomb. The V8 also has
part-time four-wheel drive you can turn on at a slippery ramp.

4 Runners are the most popular SUV at the boat ramps. It's a great
vehicle. I believe I read that 2008 is a "redesign" year for 4 Runner. I
hope they keep the truck ladder frame, because I'll be in the market for
a new one in a year or so.

I hate to pass along useful information to someone like Herring, but if
he is looking at a 4 Runner as a new car and tow vehicle, he's looking
in the right place.

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 06:52:39 -0400, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:30:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

I'm thinking of a Toyota 4 Runner. The V8 will pull 7000lbs according to
the local salesman. Haven't checked any further than that as I'm thinking
of pulling something in the neighborhood of 3500.
If you do much towing you'll be happier with a longer wheelbase. It
helps to stabilize the trailer from swaying and bouncing.


Jeeez...ever towed a boat with a V8 4 Runner, Wayne? No? I didn't think
so. I have. I've towed a boat and trailer *over* the 4 Runner's capacity
without having the rig sway and bounce. The V8 4 Runner is a very, very
capable tow vehicle for reasonably sized boats. Even the V6 4 Runner
will handle a 3500 pound boat and trailer with aplomb. The V8 also has
part-time four-wheel drive you can turn on at a slippery ramp.

Harry,
You have stated many times (possible hundreds of times) that you do not
like to tow a boat and have never towed a boat more than a few miles to
the local boat ramp. Your position has always been that you would
rather rent a boat at the location, than tow a boat. Is it possible
that Wayne was talking about towing a boat more than a few miles? Is it
possible that towing a boat at high speeds would impact in how much a
boat and trailer? Is it possible that passing or being passed by a high
speed semi-truck would impact on the amount of sway the boat/trailer
would have? You probably didn't notice Wayne's comment about "if you do
much towing you'll be happier with a longer wheelbase".

Since you do not do much towing, his comment was not inapplicable to you.


4 Runners are the most popular SUV at the boat ramps. It's a great
vehicle. I believe I read that 2008 is a "redesign" year for 4 Runner. I
hope they keep the truck ladder frame, because I'll be in the market for
a new one in a year or so.

I hate to pass along useful information to someone like Herring, but if
he is looking at a 4 Runner as a new car and tow vehicle, he's looking
in the right place.

Harry, you are so knowledgeable! Your advice is always most welcome and
appreciated!

Sorry to say that 2008 is the redesign year for the Highlander, but not the
4 Runner. However, I'll tell them your belief, and I'm sure they'll change
their planning!

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 06:52:39 -0400, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:30:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

I'm thinking of a Toyota 4 Runner. The V8 will pull 7000lbs
according to
the local salesman. Haven't checked any further than that as I'm
thinking
of pulling something in the neighborhood of 3500.
If you do much towing you'll be happier with a longer wheelbase. It
helps to stabilize the trailer from swaying and bouncing.


Jeeez...ever towed a boat with a V8 4 Runner, Wayne? No? I didn't
think so. I have. I've towed a boat and trailer *over* the 4 Runner's
capacity without having the rig sway and bounce. The V8 4 Runner is a
very, very capable tow vehicle for reasonably sized boats. Even the
V6 4 Runner will handle a 3500 pound boat and trailer with aplomb.
The V8 also has part-time four-wheel drive you can turn on at a
slippery ramp.

Damn I hate to edit a post when I am on the phone. Here is the correct
edit.

Harry,
You have stated many times (possible hundreds of times) that you do not
like to tow a boat and have never towed a boat more than a few miles to
the local boat ramp. Your position has always been that you would
rather rent a boat at the location, than tow a boat. Is it possible
that Wayne was talking about towing a boat more than a few miles? Is it
possible that towing a boat at high speeds would impact in how much a
boat and trailer swayed and bounced? Is it possible that passing or being passed by a high
speed semi-truck would impact on the amount of sway the boat/trailer
would have? You probably didn't notice Wayne's comment about "if you do
much towing you'll be happier with a longer wheelbase".

Since you do not do much towing, his comment was not inapplicable to you.

On Sep 7, 7:20 am, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:42:00 -0700, Tim wrote:
On Sep 6, 6:39 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
I b'leve my old Nissan is gonna soon go to old truck paradise but i'll
get another 25K miles outta her (it'll read 333,333 then) first. So,
what then? I need a tow vehicle for my boat and as you see I like to
keep my trucks waaaaay past any reasonable retirement age. However, I
loathe gadgets and power crap and ANYTHING that can get broke. Simple
is best, no power seats, no fu**&*g lights that dont turn off till I
go back to make sure the door isnt open, no built in GPS, no damned
radio, just SIMPLE transportation. Reliability and ease of fixing is a
major issue as is longevity. So, what is there?

A hi tek luddite

Just what the Dotcor orderd.

a Kaiser/Willys M-715

http://www.steelsoldiers.com/index.p...r&type=file&fu...

http://www.olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_m715.php3

ask JohnH or Tom Shortwave for details.....

Well, not that one exactly, but my first job in the Army was in an
Artillery Battalion in Fort Devins, Mass. I was chief of the Fire Direction
Control (FDC) section for a 105mm Howitzer Battery. The FDC section had the
M37, 3/4 ton as its primary mover. The thing had the most underpowered
straight six ever made!

http://www.olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_m37.php3


Oh I know, John, thats why I sugggested the m-715 The 37 was a bull
of a truck, just no power.

Thanks for the post. Brought back some good memories, like the time we
almost shelled Ayer, Mass.- Hide quoted text -



Now THAT would have been interesting.

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:42:00 -0700, Tim wrote:

On Sep 6, 6:39 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
I b'leve my old Nissan is gonna soon go to old truck paradise but i'll
get another 25K miles outta her (it'll read 333,333 then) first. So,
what then? I need a tow vehicle for my boat and as you see I like to
keep my trucks waaaaay past any reasonable retirement age. However, I
loathe gadgets and power crap and ANYTHING that can get broke. Simple
is best, no power seats, no fu**&*g lights that dont turn off till I
go back to make sure the door isnt open, no built in GPS, no damned
radio, just SIMPLE transportation. Reliability and ease of fixing is a
major issue as is longevity. So, what is there?

A hi tek luddite

Just what the Dotcor orderd.

a Kaiser/Willys M-715

http://www.steelsoldiers.com/index.p...fid=pic1&pid=7

http://www.olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_m715.php3


ask JohnH or Tom Shortwave for details.....

Well, not that one exactly, but my first job in the Army was in an
Artillery Battalion in Fort Devins, Mass. I was chief of the Fire Direction
Control (FDC) section for a 105mm Howitzer Battery. The FDC section had the
M37, 3/4 ton as its primary mover. The thing had the most underpowered
straight six ever made!

http://www.olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_m37.php3

Thanks for the post. Brought back some good memories, like the time we
almost shelled Ayer, Mass.