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"HK" wrote in message
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Aren't you retired? What's your hurry? Can't wait to get back to your
slow-moving floating RV?


I was all ready to move our slow-moving, floating RV from Scituate back to
the homeport on the Cape this morning. Although a bit foggy, visibility was
still enough for my single-handed voyage. Got the engine going, secured all
the cabin "stuff", then realized I couldn't see across the harbor anymore.

Decided to wait for another day. A bit too foggy to do it by myself.

A comment on the Florida driving discussion.....

Having lived in Jupiter for 3-1/2 winters, I have the following Florida
highway travel memories:

If traveling south on I-95 from Jupiter towards West Palm or Lauderdale, any
speed less then 70-75 mph in this congested highway section is dangerous to
your health. Florida drivers seem to subscribe to the Italian school of
driving, meaning you are responsible only for what you can see looking
forward, with diminishing responsibility to the extent of your peripheral
vision.

If you are traveling north on I-95 ... towards Stewart for example ....
where the traffic is much less congested, it is safe to slow down to the
speed limit.

Eisboch

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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Aren't you retired? What's your hurry? Can't wait to get back to your
slow-moving floating RV?


I was all ready to move our slow-moving, floating RV from Scituate back to
the homeport on the Cape this morning. Although a bit foggy, visibility was
still enough for my single-handed voyage. Got the engine going, secured all
the cabin "stuff", then realized I couldn't see across the harbor anymore.

Decided to wait for another day. A bit too foggy to do it by myself.

A comment on the Florida driving discussion.....

Having lived in Jupiter for 3-1/2 winters, I have the following Florida
highway travel memories:

If traveling south on I-95 from Jupiter towards West Palm or Lauderdale, any
speed less then 70-75 mph in this congested highway section is dangerous to
your health. Florida drivers seem to subscribe to the Italian school of
driving, meaning you are responsible only for what you can see looking
forward, with diminishing responsibility to the extent of your peripheral
vision.

If you are traveling north on I-95 ... towards Stewart for example ....
where the traffic is much less congested, it is safe to slow down to the
speed limit.

Eisboch




I sometimes drive from Jax to Miami, but I stay within the speed limit.
It pleasures me to see so many drivers who have passed me pulled over by
a state or county mountie. I have on occasion even called 911 while on
the highway to report the tag number and vehicle description of a yahoo
driving too fast or dangerously or both, though I mostly do that up
here, on the stretch of a Maryland state road between Deale and Annapolis.


Oh...we had a bit of fog on the fields this morning.

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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:31:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Really? I visit Florida several times a year and almost always rent a
car and drive on the interstates there. I rarely drive faster than 65mph
- 67 no matter what the speed limit allows that is higher, and I've
noticed that many other drivers don't, either. Why waste the gas?

I do enjoy seeing the 75 mph and over boys being pulled over for
tickets. What could be nicer?

I'd say you need new glasses - or have your vision and/or spedometer
checked. :)

If the general traffic is traveling 75, troopers aren't going to
bother picking anybody out to pull over. 80/85 yes - 75, no way.

Hey, it's okay with me if you kill yourself with high-speed driving, but
you're also putting others at risk. That is not ok.

When I did a ride-along with my son's FTO, I learned a lot about
traffic and traffic stops.

In general, troopers will pay more attention to a car moving 65 when
the general traffic is moving 75. The reason is that the car moving
65 is actually impeding traffic creating a potential problem. Mass
tried a "rolling traffic control" experiment about 10 years ago. The
program involved putting a patrol car on the road traveling at the
speed limit. They abandoned the program after a month when data
produced an interesting result - the backups created by having a car
at 65 created more accidents BEHIND the car than if the car hadn't
been there.

Another reason not to pull cars over at 75 is that is creates a
situation where people slow down to look which creates one of those
"phantom" traffic jams you see every once in a while on the
interstates.

A third issue is time management - you want to save your efforts for
the serious violations - not something that potentially impeds the
flow of traffic.

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Tom Francis wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:31:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Really? I visit Florida several times a year and almost always rent a
car and drive on the interstates there. I rarely drive faster than 65mph
- 67 no matter what the speed limit allows that is higher, and I've
noticed that many other drivers don't, either. Why waste the gas?

I do enjoy seeing the 75 mph and over boys being pulled over for
tickets. What could be nicer?

I'd say you need new glasses - or have your vision and/or spedometer
checked. :)

If the general traffic is traveling 75, troopers aren't going to
bother picking anybody out to pull over. 80/85 yes - 75, no way.

Hey, it's okay with me if you kill yourself with high-speed driving, but
you're also putting others at risk. That is not ok.

When I did a ride-along with my son's FTO, I learned a lot about
traffic and traffic stops.

In general, troopers will pay more attention to a car moving 65 when
the general traffic is moving 75. The reason is that the car moving
65 is actually impeding traffic creating a potential problem. Mass
tried a "rolling traffic control" experiment about 10 years ago. The
program involved putting a patrol car on the road traveling at the
speed limit. They abandoned the program after a month when data
produced an interesting result - the backups created by having a car
at 65 created more accidents BEHIND the car than if the car hadn't
been there.

Another reason not to pull cars over at 75 is that is creates a
situation where people slow down to look which creates one of those
"phantom" traffic jams you see every once in a while on the
interstates.

A third issue is time management - you want to save your efforts for
the serious violations - not something that potentially impeds the
flow of traffic.


Yes, well, I am sure there are a millions ways to justify speeding.
I drive no faster than the posted speed limit when conditions are
appropriate, and slower when I tow. I doubt any trooper is going to
ticket me for obeying the law.

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HK wrote:
Tom Francis wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:31:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Really? I visit Florida several times a year and almost always rent a
car and drive on the interstates there. I rarely drive faster than
65mph - 67 no matter what the speed limit allows that is higher, and
I've noticed that many other drivers don't, either. Why waste the gas?

I do enjoy seeing the 75 mph and over boys being pulled over for
tickets. What could be nicer?

I'd say you need new glasses - or have your vision and/or spedometer
checked. :)

If the general traffic is traveling 75, troopers aren't going to
bother picking anybody out to pull over. 80/85 yes - 75, no way.

Hey, it's okay with me if you kill yourself with high-speed driving,
but you're also putting others at risk. That is not ok.

When I did a ride-along with my son's FTO, I learned a lot about
traffic and traffic stops.

In general, troopers will pay more attention to a car moving 65 when
the general traffic is moving 75. The reason is that the car moving
65 is actually impeding traffic creating a potential problem. Mass
tried a "rolling traffic control" experiment about 10 years ago. The
program involved putting a patrol car on the road traveling at the
speed limit. They abandoned the program after a month when data
produced an interesting result - the backups created by having a car
at 65 created more accidents BEHIND the car than if the car hadn't
been there.

Another reason not to pull cars over at 75 is that is creates a
situation where people slow down to look which creates one of those
"phantom" traffic jams you see every once in a while on the
interstates.

A third issue is time management - you want to save your efforts for
the serious violations - not something that potentially impeds the
flow of traffic.


Yes, well, I am sure there are a millions ways to justify speeding.
I drive no faster than the posted speed limit when conditions are
appropriate, and slower when I tow. I doubt any trooper is going to
ticket me for obeying the law.


And sometimes on long trips I drive slower than the posted speed limit
even if I am not towing. At a certain highway speed, my 4Runner produces
a bit more than 24 mpg. That pleases me.

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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:40:17 -0400, HK wrote:

Yes, well, I am sure there are a millions ways to justify speeding.
I drive no faster than the posted speed limit when conditions are
appropriate, and slower when I tow. I doubt any trooper is going to
ticket me for obeying the law.

You are never wrong are you Harry?

Must be nice.

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Tom Francis wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:40:17 -0400, HK wrote:

Yes, well, I am sure there are a millions ways to justify speeding.
I drive no faster than the posted speed limit when conditions are
appropriate, and slower when I tow. I doubt any trooper is going to
ticket me for obeying the law.

You are never wrong are you Harry?

Must be nice.


What? When did I claim to be Chuck or Wayne? Hey, if you drive
differently, that's your business. And when you get pulled over for
speeding, that's also your business. I don't get speeding tickets, and
am not likely to. Do you think my claim that a trooper is not likely to
pull me over for not speeding is incorrect?

If the sign says 70, then that is as fast as I will drive, maybe a mile
an hour over that. No faster. When you go faster, you're breaking the law.

And if you don't like the fact that I am towing my boat no faster than
60 mph, why, you are perfectly free to pull into the passing lane and go
around me...so you can fall in behind the RV a mile down the road going
61 mph.

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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:40:17 -0400, HK wrote:



Yes, well, I am sure there are a millions ways to justify speeding.
I drive no faster than the posted speed limit when conditions are
appropriate, and slower when I tow. I doubt any trooper is going to
ticket me for obeying the law.

That a cop would ticket somebody for doing the limit and "impeding
trafiic" is laughable.
OTOH there was cop on I-88 around here that ticketed a couple cars for
going 56 in a 55! That stopped right quick.
I relax when driving, all my habits geared to staying safe and staying
out of the packs of speeding tailgaters.
I can't count the times I've seen 3-5 cars on the shoulder waiting for
the cops to file the accident report about them hitting each other.
That's 3-5 dip****s, plain and simple.
On the interstate I usually tuck in about 50 yards behind a steady
truck, sometimes for 100 miles or more.
There's a lot to learn about traffic flow dynamics, but experience
tells me the most important thing to know is that most speeders and
*all* tailgaters are just plain dumbasses. Fortunately, they are
entirely predictable if not drunk, and easily avoided.
The "behind the truck" works because the bulk of drivers can't resist
passing it, I suppose "because it's a truck." The truck may be doing
80. Don't matter. It's a truck. Speeders/tailgaters aren't known
for deep thought, or even knowing how fast they are actually moving.
Of course mountains, congestion, on/off ramps, etc all dictate
different tactics.
My bottom line is no tickets, no endangering other cars, and keep them
from endangering me.
I've given up waving the brick I used to keep under my seat at
tailgaters, and I no longer have to waste car cups on the windshields
of tailgaters. It's much easier and safer to understand their simple
ratlike mentality and guide them away. Mellow is better.
BTW, I'm often speeding, usually about 7-10 over because that's what
is often the safest speed to keep the most cars away from me.
If somebody isn't going faster than you, you are a radar target.
The fastest traffic I ever see is going through Atlanta, where a
couple times the flow in the left 2 lanes was 90mph, me in it.
That felt safer than the other lanes, and had the added benefit of
getting me out of there quick.
It's the height of arrogance to tell somebody who is within the law
they are going "too slow." And I'll leave it to the cops and
darwinism to take care of the speeders.

--Vic

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:40:17 -0400, HK wrote:


Yes, well, I am sure there are a millions ways to justify speeding.
I drive no faster than the posted speed limit when conditions are
appropriate, and slower when I tow. I doubt any trooper is going to
ticket me for obeying the law.

That a cop would ticket somebody for doing the limit and "impeding
trafiic" is laughable.
OTOH there was cop on I-88 around here that ticketed a couple cars for
going 56 in a 55! That stopped right quick.
I relax when driving, all my habits geared to staying safe and staying
out of the packs of speeding tailgaters.
I can't count the times I've seen 3-5 cars on the shoulder waiting for
the cops to file the accident report about them hitting each other.
That's 3-5 dip****s, plain and simple.
On the interstate I usually tuck in about 50 yards behind a steady
truck, sometimes for 100 miles or more.
There's a lot to learn about traffic flow dynamics, but experience
tells me the most important thing to know is that most speeders and
*all* tailgaters are just plain dumbasses. Fortunately, they are
entirely predictable if not drunk, and easily avoided.
The "behind the truck" works because the bulk of drivers can't resist
passing it, I suppose "because it's a truck." The truck may be doing
80. Don't matter. It's a truck. Speeders/tailgaters aren't known
for deep thought, or even knowing how fast they are actually moving.
Of course mountains, congestion, on/off ramps, etc all dictate
different tactics.
My bottom line is no tickets, no endangering other cars, and keep them
from endangering me.
I've given up waving the brick I used to keep under my seat at
tailgaters, and I no longer have to waste car cups on the windshields
of tailgaters. It's much easier and safer to understand their simple
ratlike mentality and guide them away. Mellow is better.
BTW, I'm often speeding, usually about 7-10 over because that's what
is often the safest speed to keep the most cars away from me.
If somebody isn't going faster than you, you are a radar target.
The fastest traffic I ever see is going through Atlanta, where a
couple times the flow in the left 2 lanes was 90mph, me in it.
That felt safer than the other lanes, and had the added benefit of
getting me out of there quick.
It's the height of arrogance to tell somebody who is within the law
they are going "too slow." And I'll leave it to the cops and
darwinism to take care of the speeders.

--Vic

If you are driving the speed limit on I95 or I75, the police will think
you are a drug dealer and look for a reason to pull you over. ;)

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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:59:16 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:



If you are driving the speed limit on I95 or I75, the police will think
you are a drug dealer and look for a reason to pull you over. ;)

heh heh. That's why it's best to drive Impalas and Crown Vics with a
spot, and try to look like a cop on vacation with the wife.
But really, I've read and seen videos of plenty of speeders being
radared, pulled over, and found with a driver's seat and the trunk
full of dope.
Next time I haul a couple hundred keys of smack to Chicago,
I'll try not to speed. I just hope the slowpokes doing 7 over don't
activate my rat instincts forcing me to pass them - just because I
can.

--Vic