On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:34:51 GMT, Tom Francis
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:31:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Really? I visit Florida several times a year and almost always rent a
car and drive on the interstates there. I rarely drive faster than 65mph
- 67 no matter what the speed limit allows that is higher, and I've
noticed that many other drivers don't, either. Why waste the gas?

I do enjoy seeing the 75 mph and over boys being pulled over for
tickets. What could be nicer?

I'd say you need new glasses - or have your vision and/or spedometer
checked. :)

If the general traffic is traveling 75, troopers aren't going to
bother picking anybody out to pull over. 80/85 yes - 75, no way.

Hey, it's okay with me if you kill yourself with high-speed driving, but
you're also putting others at risk. That is not ok.

When I did a ride-along with my son's FTO, I learned a lot about
traffic and traffic stops.

In general, troopers will pay more attention to a car moving 65 when
the general traffic is moving 75. The reason is that the car moving
65 is actually impeding traffic creating a potential problem. Mass
tried a "rolling traffic control" experiment about 10 years ago. The
program involved putting a patrol car on the road traveling at the
speed limit. They abandoned the program after a month when data
produced an interesting result - the backups created by having a car
at 65 created more accidents BEHIND the car than if the car hadn't
been there.

Another reason not to pull cars over at 75 is that is creates a
situation where people slow down to look which creates one of those
"phantom" traffic jams you see every once in a while on the
interstates.

A third issue is time management - you want to save your efforts for
the serious violations - not something that potentially impeds the
flow of traffic.

==================================

Absolutely right on all counts, and well stated.

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:25:00 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

That's why it's best to drive Impalas and Crown Vics with a
spot, and try to look like a cop on vacation with the wife.

The troopers have caught on to that trick and are now targeting the
wannabees for special treatment in drug transit areas.

I agree with your strategy of blending in with the traffic flow. In
my experience that's the best way to fly under the radar. I also
agree with the trooper strategy of targeting people driving under the
speed limit when everyone else is at the limit or slightly over.
There's a good chance they are impaired, unlicensed, hiding something
or in an unsafe vehicle.

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:34:07 -0400, HK wrote:

The world was not created for you and yours. If you can't drive safely,
at a reasonable speed, and accommodate other drivers on the road who
might be driving a bit slower, well, your driver's license ought to be
revoked.


Slow drivers are a menace and cause a lot of accidents and traffic jam
ups.

Aren't you retired? What's your hurry? Can't wait to get back to your
slow-moving floating RV?

I like fast boats as much as anyone, it's just not practical or energy
efficient when you get to a size suitable for living aboard and doing
serious long range cruising, not on my budget anyway. The good news
is that we don't slow down anyone else like the real RVs do. On I-75,
west coast of Florida, the annual north/south migration of RVs causes
traffic backups that are miles long.

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:11:38 -0400, HK wrote:

we had a bit of fog on the fields this morning.

Same here but we had no problem boating across Long Island Sound, just
a little extra attention to the radar. Running in fog is really not
that different from running at night.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:11:38 -0400, HK wrote:

we had a bit of fog on the fields this morning.

Same here but we had no problem boating across Long Island Sound, just
a little extra attention to the radar. Running in fog is really not
that different from running at night.


Depends on where you are. Last time I really had to depend on radar, it
was entering Baltimore Harbor at 11 pm. It was pretty scary. Not every
target showed up on the radar...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:11:38 -0400, HK wrote:

we had a bit of fog on the fields this morning.

Same here but we had no problem boating across Long Island Sound, just
a little extra attention to the radar. Running in fog is really not
that different from running at night.

I guess it's a matter of how much experience you have with radar to feel
comfortable. I don't mind running at night, but try to avoid heavy fog.
At night you still have the visual inputs of shoreline landmarks, boat/ship
lights, stars, moonshine, etc. For me, heavy fog (meaning less than a
quarter mile visibility) deletes all lights and distorts the origin of
sound. Although the radar works, I still get a bit uncomfortable in it.
I know other people aren't bothered at all, but it's still something I can't
get used to and feel 100 percent confident in.

Eisboch

HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:13:45 -0000, thunder
wrote:

However, some states set a maximum towing speed that is sometimes
below the posted limit. 55 max isn't uncommon.

http://www.towingworld.com/articles/TowingLaws.htm

Agreed that there are a few but not too many. Looking at your site I
was surprised at how many allow 75.

In Florida we regard 75 mph as the "run over" speed on the
interstates, i.e., if you are not going at least that fast you will be
run over, posted speed limit notwithstanding.

Really? I visit Florida several times a year and almost always rent a
car and drive on the interstates there. I rarely drive faster than 65mph
- 67 no matter what the speed limit allows that is higher, and I've
noticed that many other drivers don't, either. Why waste the gas?

I do enjoy seeing the 75 mph and over boys being pulled over for
tickets. What could be nicer?

Hey, it's okay with me if you kill yourself with high-speed driving, but
you're also putting others at risk. That is not ok.



What part of Florida is that? Not where I drive.

Driving too slow can be equally as hazardous as driving too fast. Some
states have minimum highway speeds for that reason.

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:20:05 -0400, Dan intrceptor@gmaildotcom
wrote:

HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:13:45 -0000, thunder
wrote:

However, some states set a maximum towing speed that is sometimes
below the posted limit. 55 max isn't uncommon.

http://www.towingworld.com/articles/TowingLaws.htm

Agreed that there are a few but not too many. Looking at your site I
was surprised at how many allow 75.

In Florida we regard 75 mph as the "run over" speed on the
interstates, i.e., if you are not going at least that fast you will be
run over, posted speed limit notwithstanding.

Really? I visit Florida several times a year and almost always rent a
car and drive on the interstates there. I rarely drive faster than 65mph
- 67 no matter what the speed limit allows that is higher, and I've
noticed that many other drivers don't, either. Why waste the gas?

I do enjoy seeing the 75 mph and over boys being pulled over for
tickets. What could be nicer?

Hey, it's okay with me if you kill yourself with high-speed driving, but
you're also putting others at risk. That is not ok.



What part of Florida is that? Not where I drive.

Driving too slow can be equally as hazardous as driving too fast. Some
states have minimum highway speeds for that reason.

I drive down I-75 from Chattanooga to Punta Gorda every year,
and see plenty of cars/trucks doing about 65 all the way.
Sometimes I'm behind them, sometimes passing them. Depends.
(he he, I said Depends)
The low limit I recall seeing is 45. Oh oh. Not good.

--Vic

HK wrote:
HK wrote:
Tom Francis wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:31:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Really? I visit Florida several times a year and almost always rent
a car and drive on the interstates there. I rarely drive faster than
65mph - 67 no matter what the speed limit allows that is higher, and
I've noticed that many other drivers don't, either. Why waste the gas?

I do enjoy seeing the 75 mph and over boys being pulled over for
tickets. What could be nicer?

I'd say you need new glasses - or have your vision and/or spedometer
checked. :)

If the general traffic is traveling 75, troopers aren't going to
bother picking anybody out to pull over. 80/85 yes - 75, no way.

Hey, it's okay with me if you kill yourself with high-speed driving,
but you're also putting others at risk. That is not ok.

When I did a ride-along with my son's FTO, I learned a lot about
traffic and traffic stops.

In general, troopers will pay more attention to a car moving 65 when
the general traffic is moving 75. The reason is that the car moving
65 is actually impeding traffic creating a potential problem. Mass
tried a "rolling traffic control" experiment about 10 years ago. The
program involved putting a patrol car on the road traveling at the
speed limit. They abandoned the program after a month when data
produced an interesting result - the backups created by having a car
at 65 created more accidents BEHIND the car than if the car hadn't
been there.

Another reason not to pull cars over at 75 is that is creates a
situation where people slow down to look which creates one of those
"phantom" traffic jams you see every once in a while on the
interstates.

A third issue is time management - you want to save your efforts for
the serious violations - not something that potentially impeds the
flow of traffic.


Yes, well, I am sure there are a millions ways to justify speeding.
I drive no faster than the posted speed limit when conditions are
appropriate, and slower when I tow. I doubt any trooper is going to
ticket me for obeying the law.


And sometimes on long trips I drive slower than the posted speed limit
even if I am not towing. At a certain highway speed, my 4Runner produces
a bit more than 24 mpg. That pleases me.

Good for you.

HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:11:38 -0400, HK wrote:

we had a bit of fog on the fields this morning.

Same here but we had no problem boating across Long Island Sound, just
a little extra attention to the radar. Running in fog is really not
that different from running at night.


Depends on where you are. Last time I really had to depend on radar, it
was entering Baltimore Harbor at 11 pm. It was pretty scary. Not every
target showed up on the radar...

Keep telling yourself that, Harry.