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Bam! Boats to be banned in 'Bama?
Interesting situation that could set some dangerous precedents.
A judge in Alabama is deciding whether residents living around a lake can decide what sort of watercraft will be allowed to use the lake. ************* MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) - A state judge could decide in a little more than a month whether to uphold an Alabama law banning high-speed cigarette boats and large house boats from three popular Alabama lakes. Montgomery County Circuit Judge Johnny Hardwick heard the final testimony Monday in a lawsuit challenging the law. He gave attorneys for both sides 30 days to prepare proposed orders and said he would rule shortly after receiving them. In 2006, the Legislature passed - and the governor signed - legislation that banned some boats from three Alabama Power Co . lakes: Martin, Weiss and Harris, which is also known as Lake Wedowee. Banned were cigarette boats longer than 26 feet, 11 inches and rated for speeds more than 60 mph, and all new boats, including houseboats, longer than 30 feet, 6 inches. Houseboats already on the lake could remain, provided they had sanitation systems designed to prevent waste from getting into the lakes. Opponents of the law challenged it in court, and state Conservation Commissioner Barnett Lawley delayed enforcement pending a ruling. "We still feel that there's no reasonable basis to single out these law-abiding boaters," Montgomery attorney Frank Wilson told The Daily Home of Talladega. Wilson represents a Jasper boat dealer and several boat owners on Lake Martin. Montgomery attorney Bobby Segall, who represents four Lake Martin residents, said the law "reflects what 95 percent of the residences on Lake Martin want." He said the state has the right to set aside water for specific uses much like it does land. Alabama Power intervened in the case in support of the law, saying it has an interest in protecting property values and property uses because it is a significant landowner at the lakes. The push for the law began after Georgia developers expressed an interest in building a resort community on Lake Harris, provided boating restrictions were enacted. Information from: The Daily Home - Talladega, http://www.dailyhome.com |
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Bam! Boats to be banned in 'Bama?
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com... Interesting situation that could set some dangerous precedents. A judge in Alabama is deciding whether residents living around a lake can decide what sort of watercraft will be allowed to use the lake. ************* MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) - A state judge could decide in a little more than a month whether to uphold an Alabama law banning high-speed cigarette boats and large house boats from three popular Alabama lakes. Montgomery County Circuit Judge Johnny Hardwick heard the final testimony Monday in a lawsuit challenging the law. He gave attorneys for both sides 30 days to prepare proposed orders and said he would rule shortly after receiving them. In 2006, the Legislature passed - and the governor signed - legislation that banned some boats from three Alabama Power Co . lakes: Martin, Weiss and Harris, which is also known as Lake Wedowee. Banned were cigarette boats longer than 26 feet, 11 inches and rated for speeds more than 60 mph, and all new boats, including houseboats, longer than 30 feet, 6 inches. Houseboats already on the lake could remain, provided they had sanitation systems designed to prevent waste from getting into the lakes. Sounds like a law that's not quite focused. |
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Bam! Boats to be banned in 'Bama?
Chuck Gould wrote:
Interesting situation that could set some dangerous precedents. A judge in Alabama is deciding whether residents living around a lake can decide what sort of watercraft will be allowed to use the lake. ************* MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) - A state judge could decide in a little more than a month whether to uphold an Alabama law banning high-speed cigarette boats and large house boats from three popular Alabama lakes. Montgomery County Circuit Judge Johnny Hardwick heard the final testimony Monday in a lawsuit challenging the law. He gave attorneys for both sides 30 days to prepare proposed orders and said he would rule shortly after receiving them. In 2006, the Legislature passed - and the governor signed - legislation that banned some boats from three Alabama Power Co . lakes: Martin, Weiss and Harris, which is also known as Lake Wedowee. Banned were cigarette boats longer than 26 feet, 11 inches and rated for speeds more than 60 mph, and all new boats, including houseboats, longer than 30 feet, 6 inches. Houseboats already on the lake could remain, provided they had sanitation systems designed to prevent waste from getting into the lakes. Opponents of the law challenged it in court, and state Conservation Commissioner Barnett Lawley delayed enforcement pending a ruling. "We still feel that there's no reasonable basis to single out these law-abiding boaters," Montgomery attorney Frank Wilson told The Daily Home of Talladega. Wilson represents a Jasper boat dealer and several boat owners on Lake Martin. Montgomery attorney Bobby Segall, who represents four Lake Martin residents, said the law "reflects what 95 percent of the residences on Lake Martin want." He said the state has the right to set aside water for specific uses much like it does land. Alabama Power intervened in the case in support of the law, saying it has an interest in protecting property values and property uses because it is a significant landowner at the lakes. The push for the law began after Georgia developers expressed an interest in building a resort community on Lake Harris, provided boating restrictions were enacted. Information from: The Daily Home - Talladega, http://www.dailyhome.com Banning superfast boats on small lakes isn't necessarily a bad idea, nor is banning boats larger houseboats. |
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Bam! Boats to be banned in 'Bama?
"HK" wrote in message
... Chuck Gould wrote: Interesting situation that could set some dangerous precedents. A judge in Alabama is deciding whether residents living around a lake can decide what sort of watercraft will be allowed to use the lake. ************* MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) - A state judge could decide in a little more than a month whether to uphold an Alabama law banning high-speed cigarette boats and large house boats from three popular Alabama lakes. Montgomery County Circuit Judge Johnny Hardwick heard the final testimony Monday in a lawsuit challenging the law. He gave attorneys for both sides 30 days to prepare proposed orders and said he would rule shortly after receiving them. In 2006, the Legislature passed - and the governor signed - legislation that banned some boats from three Alabama Power Co . lakes: Martin, Weiss and Harris, which is also known as Lake Wedowee. Banned were cigarette boats longer than 26 feet, 11 inches and rated for speeds more than 60 mph, and all new boats, including houseboats, longer than 30 feet, 6 inches. Houseboats already on the lake could remain, provided they had sanitation systems designed to prevent waste from getting into the lakes. Opponents of the law challenged it in court, and state Conservation Commissioner Barnett Lawley delayed enforcement pending a ruling. "We still feel that there's no reasonable basis to single out these law-abiding boaters," Montgomery attorney Frank Wilson told The Daily Home of Talladega. Wilson represents a Jasper boat dealer and several boat owners on Lake Martin. Montgomery attorney Bobby Segall, who represents four Lake Martin residents, said the law "reflects what 95 percent of the residences on Lake Martin want." He said the state has the right to set aside water for specific uses much like it does land. Alabama Power intervened in the case in support of the law, saying it has an interest in protecting property values and property uses because it is a significant landowner at the lakes. The push for the law began after Georgia developers expressed an interest in building a resort community on Lake Harris, provided boating restrictions were enacted. Information from: The Daily Home - Talladega, http://www.dailyhome.com Banning superfast boats on small lakes isn't necessarily a bad idea, nor is banning boats larger houseboats. Why larger houseboats? Why not all boats larger than a certain size? This question is based on the assumption that the reporter's information is accurate. He mentions sanitation systems......can't other boats have issues with sanitation, or just houseboats? |
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Bam! Boats to be banned in 'Bama?
On Sep 24, 7:32 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Chuck Gould wrote: Interesting situation that could set some dangerous precedents. A judge in Alabama is deciding whether residents living around a lake can decide what sort of watercraft will be allowed to use the lake. ************* MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) - A state judge could decide in a little more than a month whether to uphold an Alabama law banning high-speed cigarette boats and large house boats from three popular Alabama lakes. Montgomery County Circuit Judge Johnny Hardwick heard the final testimony Monday in a lawsuit challenging the law. He gave attorneys for both sides 30 days to prepare proposed orders and said he would rule shortly after receiving them. In 2006, the Legislature passed - and the governor signed - legislation that banned some boats from three Alabama Power Co . lakes: Martin, Weiss and Harris, which is also known as Lake Wedowee. Banned were cigarette boats longer than 26 feet, 11 inches and rated for speeds more than 60 mph, and all new boats, including houseboats, longer than 30 feet, 6 inches. Houseboats already on the lake could remain, provided they had sanitation systems designed to prevent waste from getting into the lakes. Opponents of the law challenged it in court, and state Conservation Commissioner Barnett Lawley delayed enforcement pending a ruling. "We still feel that there's no reasonable basis to single out these law-abiding boaters," Montgomery attorney Frank Wilson told The Daily Home of Talladega. Wilson represents a Jasper boat dealer and several boat owners on Lake Martin. Montgomery attorney Bobby Segall, who represents four Lake Martin residents, said the law "reflects what 95 percent of the residences on Lake Martin want." He said the state has the right to set aside water for specific uses much like it does land. Alabama Power intervened in the case in support of the law, saying it has an interest in protecting property values and property uses because it is a significant landowner at the lakes. The push for the law began after Georgia developers expressed an interest in building a resort community on Lake Harris, provided boating restrictions were enacted. Information from: The Daily Home - Talladega,http://www.dailyhome.com Banning superfast boats on small lakes isn't necessarily a bad idea, nor is banning boats larger houseboats. Why larger houseboats? Why not all boats larger than a certain size? This question is based on the assumption that the reporter's information is accurate. He mentions sanitation systems......can't other boats have issues with sanitation, or just houseboats?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Remember, people live in anything down there, I have lived in Bama' some of the dwellings I saw would not be acceptable as sheds here in the NE.. This is probably more local than we know. These boats must be the ones stirring up problems, cigarette boats,the problems are obvious, with the houseboats, you could be having an influx of permanant residences being estalished on the lakes, the locals could be trying to slow this down... |
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Bam! Boats to be banned in 'Bama?
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Chuck Gould wrote: Interesting situation that could set some dangerous precedents. A judge in Alabama is deciding whether residents living around a lake can decide what sort of watercraft will be allowed to use the lake. ************* MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) - A state judge could decide in a little more than a month whether to uphold an Alabama law banning high-speed cigarette boats and large house boats from three popular Alabama lakes. Montgomery County Circuit Judge Johnny Hardwick heard the final testimony Monday in a lawsuit challenging the law. He gave attorneys for both sides 30 days to prepare proposed orders and said he would rule shortly after receiving them. In 2006, the Legislature passed - and the governor signed - legislation that banned some boats from three Alabama Power Co . lakes: Martin, Weiss and Harris, which is also known as Lake Wedowee. Banned were cigarette boats longer than 26 feet, 11 inches and rated for speeds more than 60 mph, and all new boats, including houseboats, longer than 30 feet, 6 inches. Houseboats already on the lake could remain, provided they had sanitation systems designed to prevent waste from getting into the lakes. Opponents of the law challenged it in court, and state Conservation Commissioner Barnett Lawley delayed enforcement pending a ruling. "We still feel that there's no reasonable basis to single out these law-abiding boaters," Montgomery attorney Frank Wilson told The Daily Home of Talladega. Wilson represents a Jasper boat dealer and several boat owners on Lake Martin. Montgomery attorney Bobby Segall, who represents four Lake Martin residents, said the law "reflects what 95 percent of the residences on Lake Martin want." He said the state has the right to set aside water for specific uses much like it does land. Alabama Power intervened in the case in support of the law, saying it has an interest in protecting property values and property uses because it is a significant landowner at the lakes. The push for the law began after Georgia developers expressed an interest in building a resort community on Lake Harris, provided boating restrictions were enacted. Information from: The Daily Home - Talladega, http://www.dailyhome.com Banning superfast boats on small lakes isn't necessarily a bad idea, nor is banning boats larger houseboats. Why larger houseboats? Why not all boats larger than a certain size? This question is based on the assumption that the reporter's information is accurate. He mentions sanitation systems......can't other boats have issues with sanitation, or just houseboats? Having never actually been to Alabama, I make my pronouncements on that state from the same position of knowledge and authority as some of our posters here who have never owned a boat. |
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Bam! Boats to be banned in 'Bama?
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... Interesting situation that could set some dangerous precedents. A judge in Alabama is deciding whether residents living around a lake can decide what sort of watercraft will be allowed to use the lake. ************* MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) - A state judge could decide in a little more than a month whether to uphold an Alabama law banning high-speed cigarette boats and large house boats from three popular Alabama lakes. Montgomery County Circuit Judge Johnny Hardwick heard the final testimony Monday in a lawsuit challenging the law. He gave attorneys for both sides 30 days to prepare proposed orders and said he would rule shortly after receiving them. In 2006, the Legislature passed - and the governor signed - legislation that banned some boats from three Alabama Power Co . lakes: Martin, Weiss and Harris, which is also known as Lake Wedowee. Banned were cigarette boats longer than 26 feet, 11 inches and rated for speeds more than 60 mph, and all new boats, including houseboats, longer than 30 feet, 6 inches. Houseboats already on the lake could remain, provided they had sanitation systems designed to prevent waste from getting into the lakes. Opponents of the law challenged it in court, and state Conservation Commissioner Barnett Lawley delayed enforcement pending a ruling. "We still feel that there's no reasonable basis to single out these law-abiding boaters," Montgomery attorney Frank Wilson told The Daily Home of Talladega. Wilson represents a Jasper boat dealer and several boat owners on Lake Martin. Montgomery attorney Bobby Segall, who represents four Lake Martin residents, said the law "reflects what 95 percent of the residences on Lake Martin want." He said the state has the right to set aside water for specific uses much like it does land. Alabama Power intervened in the case in support of the law, saying it has an interest in protecting property values and property uses because it is a significant landowner at the lakes. The push for the law began after Georgia developers expressed an interest in building a resort community on Lake Harris, provided boating restrictions were enacted. Information from: The Daily Home - Talladega, http://www.dailyhome.com Judge Johnny Hardwick is a black man, well respected, but I think from a disadvantaged background. Attorney Bobby Segall, representing the homwowners, is president of the state bar association and gradualted in the 70's at the very top of his law class. It will be an interesting case to follow. Whatever the ruling of the trial court, an appeal is a certainty. |
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Bam! Boats to be banned in 'Bama?
Remember, people live in anything down there, I have lived in Bama'
some of the dwellings I saw would not be acceptable as sheds here in the NE.. This is probably more local than we know. These boats must be the ones stirring up problems, cigarette boats,the problems are obvious, with the houseboats, you could be having an influx of permanant residences being estalished on the lakes, the locals could be trying to slow this down... It's obvious that you haven't seen the homes around these lakes in recent times. There are no "sheds" on the shores of any of these lakes. Far from it. |
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Bam! Boats to be banned in 'Bama?
William Bruce wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... Interesting situation that could set some dangerous precedents. A judge in Alabama is deciding whether residents living around a lake can decide what sort of watercraft will be allowed to use the lake. ************* MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) - A state judge could decide in a little more than a month whether to uphold an Alabama law banning high-speed cigarette boats and large house boats from three popular Alabama lakes. Montgomery County Circuit Judge Johnny Hardwick heard the final testimony Monday in a lawsuit challenging the law. He gave attorneys for both sides 30 days to prepare proposed orders and said he would rule shortly after receiving them. In 2006, the Legislature passed - and the governor signed - legislation that banned some boats from three Alabama Power Co . lakes: Martin, Weiss and Harris, which is also known as Lake Wedowee. Banned were cigarette boats longer than 26 feet, 11 inches and rated for speeds more than 60 mph, and all new boats, including houseboats, longer than 30 feet, 6 inches. Houseboats already on the lake could remain, provided they had sanitation systems designed to prevent waste from getting into the lakes. Opponents of the law challenged it in court, and state Conservation Commissioner Barnett Lawley delayed enforcement pending a ruling. "We still feel that there's no reasonable basis to single out these law-abiding boaters," Montgomery attorney Frank Wilson told The Daily Home of Talladega. Wilson represents a Jasper boat dealer and several boat owners on Lake Martin. Montgomery attorney Bobby Segall, who represents four Lake Martin residents, said the law "reflects what 95 percent of the residences on Lake Martin want." He said the state has the right to set aside water for specific uses much like it does land. Alabama Power intervened in the case in support of the law, saying it has an interest in protecting property values and property uses because it is a significant landowner at the lakes. The push for the law began after Georgia developers expressed an interest in building a resort community on Lake Harris, provided boating restrictions were enacted. Information from: The Daily Home - Talladega, http://www.dailyhome.com Judge Johnny Hardwick is a black man, well respected, but I think from a disadvantaged background. Attorney Bobby Segall, representing the homwowners, is president of the state bar association and gradualted in the 70's at the very top of his law class. It will be an interesting case to follow. Whatever the ruling of the trial court, an appeal is a certainty. Why is Judge Hardwick's skin color worth mentioning? Why is his "disadvantaged background" worth mentioning? Do you think his skin color and background mean he isn't going to be fair? |
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"HK" wrote in message
. .. William Bruce wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... Interesting situation that could set some dangerous precedents. A judge in Alabama is deciding whether residents living around a lake can decide what sort of watercraft will be allowed to use the lake. ************* MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) - A state judge could decide in a little more than a month whether to uphold an Alabama law banning high-speed cigarette boats and large house boats from three popular Alabama lakes. Montgomery County Circuit Judge Johnny Hardwick heard the final testimony Monday in a lawsuit challenging the law. He gave attorneys for both sides 30 days to prepare proposed orders and said he would rule shortly after receiving them. In 2006, the Legislature passed - and the governor signed - legislation that banned some boats from three Alabama Power Co . lakes: Martin, Weiss and Harris, which is also known as Lake Wedowee. Banned were cigarette boats longer than 26 feet, 11 inches and rated for speeds more than 60 mph, and all new boats, including houseboats, longer than 30 feet, 6 inches. Houseboats already on the lake could remain, provided they had sanitation systems designed to prevent waste from getting into the lakes. Opponents of the law challenged it in court, and state Conservation Commissioner Barnett Lawley delayed enforcement pending a ruling. "We still feel that there's no reasonable basis to single out these law-abiding boaters," Montgomery attorney Frank Wilson told The Daily Home of Talladega. Wilson represents a Jasper boat dealer and several boat owners on Lake Martin. Montgomery attorney Bobby Segall, who represents four Lake Martin residents, said the law "reflects what 95 percent of the residences on Lake Martin want." He said the state has the right to set aside water for specific uses much like it does land. Alabama Power intervened in the case in support of the law, saying it has an interest in protecting property values and property uses because it is a significant landowner at the lakes. The push for the law began after Georgia developers expressed an interest in building a resort community on Lake Harris, provided boating restrictions were enacted. Information from: The Daily Home - Talladega, http://www.dailyhome.com Judge Johnny Hardwick is a black man, well respected, but I think from a disadvantaged background. Attorney Bobby Segall, representing the homwowners, is president of the state bar association and gradualted in the 70's at the very top of his law class. It will be an interesting case to follow. Whatever the ruling of the trial court, an appeal is a certainty. Why is Judge Hardwick's skin color worth mentioning? Why is his "disadvantaged background" worth mentioning? Do you think his skin color and background mean he isn't going to be fair? Guess: Considering the location, it may mean there's an attitude toward him due to his skin color, in addition to whatever legal decisions he makes. Use your imagination. |
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