"HK" wrote in message
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That's called "open carry." Very few states allow that, typically states
out west, though I believe Virginia allows it.

And lawd almighty it's a stupid idea.....

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:48:45 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:05:39 -0300, "Don White"

wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 28, 12:48 pm, "Don White" wrote:
Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at
home when
travelling north of the
border...http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html
Hey, I worked in "Gunnersvull'. But why is the writer so
interested in
the church connection. Is there something there we are not
getting, or
is he just somehow trying to paint religeon/conservatives/guns etc
into one picture? Why was the mans occupation even noted, and would
the story have been written if he was say a barber? Just wondering,
the writer seems to indicate this type of seizure is not unusual...
hummmmm...

Cultural thing I suppose. Up here, normal people wouldn't think
of carrying a firearm...let alone a church official.
No hunters or target shooters in Canada, huh? Wow, times have sure
changed
since my uncle took me hunting up there.

"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going
hunting or target shooting.

There may be others who carry a firearm, but hunters and target
shooters
also carry them. When I go to a pistol range, I carry the weapon. If
I go
hunting, I carry a firearm.
Of course, I may not fit someone's definition of 'normal' !


"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going hunting
or target shooting and "carrying" your firearm with you.


I think I know what you are talking about, and "carrying" might mean
"packing heat" to some criminal elements, but I really don't think
that is the way Don was using the term.


"Carrying" typically means carrying on your person a concealed firearm
for personal protection. In many states, you have to have a state-issued
permit to carry a concealed weapon in states that recognizes your
permit. I have such a permit.

I think that highlights the "cultural" issue Don was talking about. If
you don't have CCW permit, how does one bring the gun from the home to
the range? I would assume you keep the gun unloaded, with the bullets
in one place and the gun in another (seat in plan view and trunk), but I
am just guessing.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..

The most common definition means a law abiding citizen carrying a legally
owned handgun, probably concealed, with a permit where required.
Let me make sure I understand this. In the west, it is common to see
people with a guy in a holster, in plan sight. Wouldn't they be
considered to be carrying?

Since i don't own a guy, if you are going to the range or out to the woods
for target practice, don't you carry it on the seat in plan view, or in
the trunk of the car (I really don't know the legal way to bring a guy to
the range)?

Wouldn't that be considered "carrying" if a cop stopped you?

I have always thought if I needed a weapon to protect myself while
cruising, it would be a shotgun or a flare, not some tiny little 357.


How old are you? The information will assist me in answering your questions.



In my 50's.

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:03:25 -0400, HK wrote:

BTW, what model 4Runner do you have. I'm getting pretty serious about
getting one in the next week or so. I'm thinking of the basic SR5 as the
leather in the limited doesn't impress me, and neither does the fancy
suspension of the Sport.

I do want the V8 and the towing package!


I've got the Sport V8 with the V8's part-time 4WD. It is the best "car"
I have ever owned, in terms of "no problems," terrific ride for what it
is (a truck frame based SUV), roominess in a reasonably sized "big"
vehicle, and not bad mileage on the highway.

I'm thinking of getting another.

If there is a tire option, get a set of Michelins.

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:48:45 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:05:39 -0300, "Don White"

wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 28, 12:48 pm, "Don White" wrote:
Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at
home when
travelling north of the
border...http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html
Hey, I worked in "Gunnersvull'. But why is the writer so
interested in
the church connection. Is there something there we are not
getting, or
is he just somehow trying to paint religeon/conservatives/guns etc
into one picture? Why was the mans occupation even noted, and
would
the story have been written if he was say a barber? Just
wondering,
the writer seems to indicate this type of seizure is not
unusual...
hummmmm...

Cultural thing I suppose. Up here, normal people wouldn't think
of carrying a firearm...let alone a church official.
No hunters or target shooters in Canada, huh? Wow, times have
sure changed
since my uncle took me hunting up there.

"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going
hunting or target shooting.

There may be others who carry a firearm, but hunters and target
shooters
also carry them. When I go to a pistol range, I carry the weapon.
If I go
hunting, I carry a firearm.
Of course, I may not fit someone's definition of 'normal' !


"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going
hunting or target shooting and "carrying" your firearm with you.


I think I know what you are talking about, and "carrying" might mean
"packing heat" to some criminal elements, but I really don't think
that is the way Don was using the term.


"Carrying" typically means carrying on your person a concealed firearm
for personal protection. In many states, you have to have a
state-issued permit to carry a concealed weapon in states that
recognizes your permit. I have such a permit.

I think that highlights the "cultural" issue Don was talking about. If
you don't have CCW permit, how does one bring the gun from the home to
the range? I would assume you keep the gun unloaded, with the bullets
in one place and the gun in another (seat in plan view and trunk), but I
am just guessing.







In your trunk, or in a locked box, with unloaded magazines. About as you
described.

Now, when I go out to the Shenandoah property, I wear my pistol in its
holster, "unconcealed," but my concealed permit is recognized by
Virginia. I wear the pistol open because of the reasonable chance of
encountering packs of feral dogs.

The pistol I typically carry out there is a SIG X5, with a capacity of
20 rounds. The gun is quite heavy for what it is, and mechanically very,
very fast, so firing off a lot of rounds in a hurry, even one-handed if
you have to, is not a considerable task. There's no real barrel flip.
You need that ability with attacking dogs, or with any large animal that
wants you for lunch.

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:42:42 -0400, HK wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in
message . ..
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:48:45 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:05:39 -0300, "Don White"

wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 28, 12:48 pm, "Don White" wrote:
Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at
home when
travelling north of the
border...http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html
Hey, I worked in "Gunnersvull'. But why is the writer so
interested in
the church connection. Is there something there we are not
getting, or
is he just somehow trying to paint religeon/conservatives/guns etc
into one picture? Why was the mans occupation even noted, and
would
the story have been written if he was say a barber? Just
wondering,
the writer seems to indicate this type of seizure is not
unusual...
hummmmm...
Cultural thing I suppose. Up here, normal people wouldn't think
of carrying a firearm...let alone a church official.
No hunters or target shooters in Canada, huh? Wow, times have
sure changed
since my uncle took me hunting up there.
"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going
hunting or target shooting.
There may be others who carry a firearm, but hunters and target
shooters
also carry them. When I go to a pistol range, I carry the weapon.
If I go
hunting, I carry a firearm.
Of course, I may not fit someone's definition of 'normal' !
"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going
hunting or target shooting and "carrying" your firearm with you.

I think I know what you are talking about, and "carrying" might mean
"packing heat" to some criminal elements, but I really don't think
that is the way Don was using the term.

The most common definition means a law abiding citizen carrying a
legally owned handgun, probably concealed, with a permit where required.

Let me make sure I understand this. In the west, it is common to see
people with a guy in a holster, in plan sight. Wouldn't they be
considered to be carrying?

That's called "open carry." Very few states allow that, typically states
out west, though I believe Virginia allows it.

Virginia allows concealed, with a permit. If I'm carrying a pistol into a
target range, or a gun shop, there's nothing illegal about it.


I'm fairly certain Virginia also allows open carry, but I could be
wrong. I was wrong once before, in 1983. :?}

"HK" wrote in message
. ..


That's called "open carry." Very few states allow that, typically states
out west, though I believe Virginia allows it.

Virginia allows concealed, with a permit. If I'm carrying a pistol into a
target range, or a gun shop, there's nothing illegal about it.


I'm fairly certain Virginia also allows open carry, but I could be wrong.
I was wrong once before, in 1983. :?}

I'd like to meet someone who thinks open carry is a good idea, just to see
how much they drool in any 30 second period of time.

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..

The most common definition means a law abiding citizen carrying a
legally owned handgun, probably concealed, with a permit where
required.
Let me make sure I understand this. In the west, it is common to see
people with a guy in a holster, in plan sight. Wouldn't they be
considered to be carrying?

Since i don't own a guy, if you are going to the range or out to the
woods for target practice, don't you carry it on the seat in plan view,
or in the trunk of the car (I really don't know the legal way to bring a
guy to the range)?

Wouldn't that be considered "carrying" if a cop stopped you?

I have always thought if I needed a weapon to protect myself while
cruising, it would be a shotgun or a flare, not some tiny little 357.


How old are you? The information will assist me in answering your
questions.

In my 50's.


I was kidding. I was just curious.

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:35:16 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:28:13 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:48:45 -0400, HK
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:05:39 -0300, "Don White"

wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 28, 12:48 pm, "Don White" wrote:
Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home
when
travelling north of the
border...http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html
Hey, I worked in "Gunnersvull'. But why is the writer so
interested in
the church connection. Is there something there we are not
getting, or
is he just somehow trying to paint religeon/conservatives/guns
etc
into one picture? Why was the mans occupation even noted, and
would
the story have been written if he was say a barber? Just
wondering,
the writer seems to indicate this type of seizure is not
unusual...
hummmmm...

Cultural thing I suppose. Up here, normal people wouldn't think
of
carrying a firearm...let alone a church official.
No hunters or target shooters in Canada, huh? Wow, times have sure
changed
since my uncle took me hunting up there.

"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going
hunting
or target shooting.

There may be others who carry a firearm, but hunters and target
shooters
also carry them. When I go to a pistol range, I carry the weapon. If
I
go
hunting, I carry a firearm.
Of course, I may not fit someone's definition of 'normal' !


"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going hunting
or
target shooting and "carrying" your firearm with you.


I think I know what you are talking about, and "carrying" might mean
"packing heat" to some criminal elements, but I really don't think that
is the way Don was using the term.

Speaking of fortuitous...how nice that you should mention Tilley hats as
I
was in the market for a hat. And, at the same time, the closest store
carrying Tilley's was having a 20% off sale. Now we are both proud
owners
of a Tilley. They are a very comfortable hat!

They are great hats. But, are they still claiming that they float? If so,
don't believe it for a moment. I lost one a couple of years ago when some
serious wind blew it off my head. It landed 10 feet away in the water, and
sank instantly.

They say:

Like the Titanic, it Floats.

It Can Also Sink.
One reason your Hat floats is because of the air trapped inside the
water-repellent fibres. The main reason, however, is the layer of
closed-cell polyethylene foam in the crown of the Hat that also protects
your noggin from blunt objects. (People have told us this feature has
actually saved their lives!)

Certain types of wave action can sink your Hat - and you. You will find
that your Tilley will neither sink - nor fly overboard - as long as you
are
wearing the cord behind your head and under your chin.


Lies! All lies! But still, it's a great hat. I've got the huge one - the
T2, if I recall. It's kept me dry even after 2 hours in the rain. It's a
hands-free umbrella.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..

That's called "open carry." Very few states allow that, typically states
out west, though I believe Virginia allows it.
Virginia allows concealed, with a permit. If I'm carrying a pistol into a
target range, or a gun shop, there's nothing illegal about it.

I'm fairly certain Virginia also allows open carry, but I could be wrong.
I was wrong once before, in 1983. :?}

I'd like to meet someone who thinks open carry is a good idea, just to see
how much they drool in any 30 second period of time.




I've read posters on gun boards talking about their "open carry" around
the state. I only "open carry" out in the country, hiking along forest
trails on the mountain ranges or accesses to them, or on the property.
There are feral dogs and bears around for sure, and there have been
mountain lion sightings.