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"HK" wrote in message
... That's called "open carry." Very few states allow that, typically states out west, though I believe Virginia allows it. And lawd almighty it's a stupid idea..... |
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:48:45 -0400, HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:05:39 -0300, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 28, 12:48 pm, "Don White" wrote: Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home when travelling north of the border...http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html Hey, I worked in "Gunnersvull'. But why is the writer so interested in the church connection. Is there something there we are not getting, or is he just somehow trying to paint religeon/conservatives/guns etc into one picture? Why was the mans occupation even noted, and would the story have been written if he was say a barber? Just wondering, the writer seems to indicate this type of seizure is not unusual... hummmmm... Cultural thing I suppose. Up here, normal people wouldn't think of carrying a firearm...let alone a church official. No hunters or target shooters in Canada, huh? Wow, times have sure changed since my uncle took me hunting up there. "Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going hunting or target shooting. There may be others who carry a firearm, but hunters and target shooters also carry them. When I go to a pistol range, I carry the weapon. If I go hunting, I carry a firearm. Of course, I may not fit someone's definition of 'normal' ! "Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going hunting or target shooting and "carrying" your firearm with you. I think I know what you are talking about, and "carrying" might mean "packing heat" to some criminal elements, but I really don't think that is the way Don was using the term. "Carrying" typically means carrying on your person a concealed firearm for personal protection. In many states, you have to have a state-issued permit to carry a concealed weapon in states that recognizes your permit. I have such a permit. I think that highlights the "cultural" issue Don was talking about. If you don't have CCW permit, how does one bring the gun from the home to the range? I would assume you keep the gun unloaded, with the bullets in one place and the gun in another (seat in plan view and trunk), but I am just guessing. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message . .. The most common definition means a law abiding citizen carrying a legally owned handgun, probably concealed, with a permit where required. Let me make sure I understand this. In the west, it is common to see people with a guy in a holster, in plan sight. Wouldn't they be considered to be carrying? Since i don't own a guy, if you are going to the range or out to the woods for target practice, don't you carry it on the seat in plan view, or in the trunk of the car (I really don't know the legal way to bring a guy to the range)? Wouldn't that be considered "carrying" if a cop stopped you? I have always thought if I needed a weapon to protect myself while cruising, it would be a shotgun or a flare, not some tiny little 357. How old are you? The information will assist me in answering your questions. In my 50's. |
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John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:03:25 -0400, HK wrote: BTW, what model 4Runner do you have. I'm getting pretty serious about getting one in the next week or so. I'm thinking of the basic SR5 as the leather in the limited doesn't impress me, and neither does the fancy suspension of the Sport. I do want the V8 and the towing package! I've got the Sport V8 with the V8's part-time 4WD. It is the best "car" I have ever owned, in terms of "no problems," terrific ride for what it is (a truck frame based SUV), roominess in a reasonably sized "big" vehicle, and not bad mileage on the highway. I'm thinking of getting another. If there is a tire option, get a set of Michelins. |
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:48:45 -0400, HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:05:39 -0300, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 28, 12:48 pm, "Don White" wrote: Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home when travelling north of the border...http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html Hey, I worked in "Gunnersvull'. But why is the writer so interested in the church connection. Is there something there we are not getting, or is he just somehow trying to paint religeon/conservatives/guns etc into one picture? Why was the mans occupation even noted, and would the story have been written if he was say a barber? Just wondering, the writer seems to indicate this type of seizure is not unusual... hummmmm... Cultural thing I suppose. Up here, normal people wouldn't think of carrying a firearm...let alone a church official. No hunters or target shooters in Canada, huh? Wow, times have sure changed since my uncle took me hunting up there. "Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going hunting or target shooting. There may be others who carry a firearm, but hunters and target shooters also carry them. When I go to a pistol range, I carry the weapon. If I go hunting, I carry a firearm. Of course, I may not fit someone's definition of 'normal' ! "Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going hunting or target shooting and "carrying" your firearm with you. I think I know what you are talking about, and "carrying" might mean "packing heat" to some criminal elements, but I really don't think that is the way Don was using the term. "Carrying" typically means carrying on your person a concealed firearm for personal protection. In many states, you have to have a state-issued permit to carry a concealed weapon in states that recognizes your permit. I have such a permit. I think that highlights the "cultural" issue Don was talking about. If you don't have CCW permit, how does one bring the gun from the home to the range? I would assume you keep the gun unloaded, with the bullets in one place and the gun in another (seat in plan view and trunk), but I am just guessing. In your trunk, or in a locked box, with unloaded magazines. About as you described. Now, when I go out to the Shenandoah property, I wear my pistol in its holster, "unconcealed," but my concealed permit is recognized by Virginia. I wear the pistol open because of the reasonable chance of encountering packs of feral dogs. The pistol I typically carry out there is a SIG X5, with a capacity of 20 rounds. The gun is quite heavy for what it is, and mechanically very, very fast, so firing off a lot of rounds in a hurry, even one-handed if you have to, is not a considerable task. There's no real barrel flip. You need that ability with attacking dogs, or with any large animal that wants you for lunch. |
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John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:42:42 -0400, HK wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message . .. HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:48:45 -0400, HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:05:39 -0300, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 28, 12:48 pm, "Don White" wrote: Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home when travelling north of the border...http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html Hey, I worked in "Gunnersvull'. But why is the writer so interested in the church connection. Is there something there we are not getting, or is he just somehow trying to paint religeon/conservatives/guns etc into one picture? Why was the mans occupation even noted, and would the story have been written if he was say a barber? Just wondering, the writer seems to indicate this type of seizure is not unusual... hummmmm... Cultural thing I suppose. Up here, normal people wouldn't think of carrying a firearm...let alone a church official. No hunters or target shooters in Canada, huh? Wow, times have sure changed since my uncle took me hunting up there. "Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going hunting or target shooting. There may be others who carry a firearm, but hunters and target shooters also carry them. When I go to a pistol range, I carry the weapon. If I go hunting, I carry a firearm. Of course, I may not fit someone's definition of 'normal' ! "Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going hunting or target shooting and "carrying" your firearm with you. I think I know what you are talking about, and "carrying" might mean "packing heat" to some criminal elements, but I really don't think that is the way Don was using the term. The most common definition means a law abiding citizen carrying a legally owned handgun, probably concealed, with a permit where required. Let me make sure I understand this. In the west, it is common to see people with a guy in a holster, in plan sight. Wouldn't they be considered to be carrying? That's called "open carry." Very few states allow that, typically states out west, though I believe Virginia allows it. Virginia allows concealed, with a permit. If I'm carrying a pistol into a target range, or a gun shop, there's nothing illegal about it. I'm fairly certain Virginia also allows open carry, but I could be wrong. I was wrong once before, in 1983. :?} |
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"HK" wrote in message
. .. That's called "open carry." Very few states allow that, typically states out west, though I believe Virginia allows it. Virginia allows concealed, with a permit. If I'm carrying a pistol into a target range, or a gun shop, there's nothing illegal about it. I'm fairly certain Virginia also allows open carry, but I could be wrong. I was wrong once before, in 1983. :?} I'd like to meet someone who thinks open carry is a good idea, just to see how much they drool in any 30 second period of time. |
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"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message . .. The most common definition means a law abiding citizen carrying a legally owned handgun, probably concealed, with a permit where required. Let me make sure I understand this. In the west, it is common to see people with a guy in a holster, in plan sight. Wouldn't they be considered to be carrying? Since i don't own a guy, if you are going to the range or out to the woods for target practice, don't you carry it on the seat in plan view, or in the trunk of the car (I really don't know the legal way to bring a guy to the range)? Wouldn't that be considered "carrying" if a cop stopped you? I have always thought if I needed a weapon to protect myself while cruising, it would be a shotgun or a flare, not some tiny little 357. How old are you? The information will assist me in answering your questions. In my 50's. I was kidding. I was just curious. |
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"John H." wrote in message
... On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:35:16 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:28:13 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:48:45 -0400, HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:05:39 -0300, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 28, 12:48 pm, "Don White" wrote: Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home when travelling north of the border...http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html Hey, I worked in "Gunnersvull'. But why is the writer so interested in the church connection. Is there something there we are not getting, or is he just somehow trying to paint religeon/conservatives/guns etc into one picture? Why was the mans occupation even noted, and would the story have been written if he was say a barber? Just wondering, the writer seems to indicate this type of seizure is not unusual... hummmmm... Cultural thing I suppose. Up here, normal people wouldn't think of carrying a firearm...let alone a church official. No hunters or target shooters in Canada, huh? Wow, times have sure changed since my uncle took me hunting up there. "Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going hunting or target shooting. There may be others who carry a firearm, but hunters and target shooters also carry them. When I go to a pistol range, I carry the weapon. If I go hunting, I carry a firearm. Of course, I may not fit someone's definition of 'normal' ! "Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going hunting or target shooting and "carrying" your firearm with you. I think I know what you are talking about, and "carrying" might mean "packing heat" to some criminal elements, but I really don't think that is the way Don was using the term. Speaking of fortuitous...how nice that you should mention Tilley hats as I was in the market for a hat. And, at the same time, the closest store carrying Tilley's was having a 20% off sale. Now we are both proud owners of a Tilley. They are a very comfortable hat! They are great hats. But, are they still claiming that they float? If so, don't believe it for a moment. I lost one a couple of years ago when some serious wind blew it off my head. It landed 10 feet away in the water, and sank instantly. They say: Like the Titanic, it Floats. It Can Also Sink. One reason your Hat floats is because of the air trapped inside the water-repellent fibres. The main reason, however, is the layer of closed-cell polyethylene foam in the crown of the Hat that also protects your noggin from blunt objects. (People have told us this feature has actually saved their lives!) Certain types of wave action can sink your Hat - and you. You will find that your Tilley will neither sink - nor fly overboard - as long as you are wearing the cord behind your head and under your chin. Lies! All lies! But still, it's a great hat. I've got the huge one - the T2, if I recall. It's kept me dry even after 2 hours in the rain. It's a hands-free umbrella. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. That's called "open carry." Very few states allow that, typically states out west, though I believe Virginia allows it. Virginia allows concealed, with a permit. If I'm carrying a pistol into a target range, or a gun shop, there's nothing illegal about it. I'm fairly certain Virginia also allows open carry, but I could be wrong. I was wrong once before, in 1983. :?} I'd like to meet someone who thinks open carry is a good idea, just to see how much they drool in any 30 second period of time. I've read posters on gun boards talking about their "open carry" around the state. I only "open carry" out in the country, hiking along forest trails on the mountain ranges or accesses to them, or on the property. There are feral dogs and bears around for sure, and there have been mountain lion sightings. |
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