Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 10, 1:05?pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:49:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Chuck Gould wrote:
Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)
Indeed, Chuck. After a four year war "for oil" that continues, $3+ prices
at the pump, and the hard right working harder than ever to deny the
impact of global warming, it just seems "smarter" to downsize one's energy
consuming toys. I wouldn't mind seeing a substantial luxury tax or energy
surtax on oversized pleasure vehicles, luxury yachts, private planes, et
cetera.
The surtax should be on the cost of the fuel in excess of X amount of
gallons used per month, not the item the fuel is used in.
Eisboch
Harry, if you're still reading - many of those trawlers are powered with
small diesels, burning almost nothing. Do you consider Wayne's or Chuck's
boats 'luxury yachts'?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I realize over 4 nmpg. I'd be surprised to learn that Harry's boat is
more economical than that.


Some small tests I've run on Son of Yo Ho indicate about 3.5 mpg at 26
mph. At your boat's speeds, my mileage goes down. 10 miles an hour
equals about 2 mpg.

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:49:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...

Chuck Gould wrote:

Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)



Indeed, Chuck. After a four year war "for oil" that continues, $3+ prices
at the pump, and the hard right working harder than ever to deny the
impact of global warming, it just seems "smarter" to downsize one's energy
consuming toys. I wouldn't mind seeing a substantial luxury tax or energy
surtax on oversized pleasure vehicles, luxury yachts, private planes, et
cetera.


The surtax should be on the cost of the fuel in excess of X amount of
gallons used per month, not the item the fuel is used in.

Eisboch


Harry, if you're still reading - many of those trawlers are powered with
small diesels, burning almost nothing. Do you consider Wayne's or Chuck's
boats 'luxury yachts'?

Glad they were rescued, but sorry they lost a beautiful craft...


HK wrote:
Off Solomons Island. Hope it's not the boat of anyone we know:


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../rvboat1-1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../rvboat2-1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ng/rvboat3.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ng/rvboat4.jpg


Occupants rescued.

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:59:50 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...

Eisboch wrote:


The surtax should be on the cost of the fuel in excess of X amount of
gallons used per month, not the item the fuel is used in.

Eisboch




No. Some people have to drive long distances to get to their jobs or in
connection with their jobs.

When we lived in Italy, we were rationed 400 liters of gas for our cars a
month.
If we wanted or needed more, we paid through the nose.

It worked.

Eisboch


The big advantage of having a wife who worked for the government and had a
car registered in her name. We got 800 liters! Didn't use it because most
of our travel was by motorcycle.

HK wrote:

- Show quoted text -

Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)



Indeed, Chuck. After a four year war "for oil" that continues, $3+
prices at the pump, and the hard right working harder than ever to deny
the impact of global warming, it just seems "smarter" to downsize one's
energy consuming toys. I wouldn't mind seeing a substantial luxury tax
or energy surtax on oversized pleasure vehicles, luxury yachts, private
planes, et cetera.

Harry,
Wouldn't a 36' Lobster Boat be considered on of those over sized
pleasure vehicle?

HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 10, 1:05?pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:49:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Chuck Gould wrote:
Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)
Indeed, Chuck. After a four year war "for oil" that continues, $3+
prices
at the pump, and the hard right working harder than ever to deny the
impact of global warming, it just seems "smarter" to downsize one's
energy
consuming toys. I wouldn't mind seeing a substantial luxury tax or
energy
surtax on oversized pleasure vehicles, luxury yachts, private
planes, et
cetera.
The surtax should be on the cost of the fuel in excess of X amount of
gallons used per month, not the item the fuel is used in.
Eisboch
Harry, if you're still reading - many of those trawlers are powered with
small diesels, burning almost nothing. Do you consider Wayne's or
Chuck's
boats 'luxury yachts'?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I realize over 4 nmpg. I'd be surprised to learn that Harry's boat is
more economical than that.


Some small tests I've run on Son of Yo Ho indicate about 3.5 mpg at 26
mph. At your boat's speeds, my mileage goes down. 10 miles an hour
equals about 2 mpg.

Since you were talking about your lobster boat yesterday, what kind of
mpg and gph does your lobster boat get?

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:

- Show quoted text -

Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)



Indeed, Chuck. After a four year war "for oil" that continues, $3+
prices at the pump, and the hard right working harder than ever to
deny the impact of global warming, it just seems "smarter" to downsize
one's energy consuming toys. I wouldn't mind seeing a substantial
luxury tax or energy surtax on oversized pleasure vehicles, luxury
yachts, private planes, et cetera.

Harry,
Wouldn't a 36' Lobster Boat be considered on of those over sized
pleasure vehicle?




http://tinyurl.com/3dg

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 10, 1:05?pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:49:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Chuck Gould wrote:
Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)
Indeed, Chuck. After a four year war "for oil" that continues, $3+
prices
at the pump, and the hard right working harder than ever to deny the
impact of global warming, it just seems "smarter" to downsize
one's energy
consuming toys. I wouldn't mind seeing a substantial luxury tax or
energy
surtax on oversized pleasure vehicles, luxury yachts, private
planes, et
cetera.
The surtax should be on the cost of the fuel in excess of X amount of
gallons used per month, not the item the fuel is used in.
Eisboch
Harry, if you're still reading - many of those trawlers are powered
with
small diesels, burning almost nothing. Do you consider Wayne's or
Chuck's
boats 'luxury yachts'?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I realize over 4 nmpg. I'd be surprised to learn that Harry's boat is
more economical than that.


Some small tests I've run on Son of Yo Ho indicate about 3.5 mpg at 26
mph. At your boat's speeds, my mileage goes down. 10 miles an hour
equals about 2 mpg.

Since you were talking about your lobster boat yesterday, what kind of
mpg and gph does your lobster boat get?


http://tinyurl.com/3dg

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 10, 1:05?pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:49:07 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Chuck Gould wrote:
Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you
proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)
Indeed, Chuck. After a four year war "for oil" that continues,
$3+ prices
at the pump, and the hard right working harder than ever to deny the
impact of global warming, it just seems "smarter" to downsize
one's energy
consuming toys. I wouldn't mind seeing a substantial luxury tax
or energy
surtax on oversized pleasure vehicles, luxury yachts, private
planes, et
cetera.
The surtax should be on the cost of the fuel in excess of X amount of
gallons used per month, not the item the fuel is used in.
Eisboch
Harry, if you're still reading - many of those trawlers are powered
with
small diesels, burning almost nothing. Do you consider Wayne's or
Chuck's
boats 'luxury yachts'?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I realize over 4 nmpg. I'd be surprised to learn that Harry's boat is
more economical than that.


Some small tests I've run on Son of Yo Ho indicate about 3.5 mpg at
26 mph. At your boat's speeds, my mileage goes down. 10 miles an hour
equals about 2 mpg.

Since you were talking about your lobster boat yesterday, what kind of
mpg and gph does your lobster boat get?


http://tinyurl.com/3dg

Harry,
That was not polite, I am just trying to understand your position on
this issue. You can't say you don't like slow cruising, that you really
like to go fast so you can get to your destination quickly, no matter
what the fuel consumption is, and then chastise someone else for using
less fuel by cruising slowly.

So what kind of mpg and gph does your lobster boat get?

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:


Harry,
That was not polite, I am just trying to understand your position on
this issue. You can't say you don't like slow cruising, that you really
like to go fast so you can get to your destination quickly, no matter
what the fuel consumption is, and then chastise someone else for using
less fuel by cruising slowly.

So what kind of mpg and gph does your lobster boat get?





Once more, Reggie, don't offer me advice and don't ask me questions.
I allowed you more than a week to see if you could behave like a
gentlemen. Well, you couldn't. Drop dead. And please, no
rationalizations about how "innocent" your queries are.

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