JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
news Jack Redington wrote:
HK wrote:
CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels
are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain
soon,
a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought.

Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead
shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded.

What's the impact on boating?

While I no longer boat on Lanier, from the news many ramps are closed.
At the present time that lake is about 12 below full pool. At least
that was the last time I checked. Projections do not look good.

Georgia has been in drought conditions all of this year. Spring rains
were slight and every month has been a short. So it is not really news
anymore. Lanier has several problems when rain is short. For one the
drainage basin is small for a lake it's size. And about 6 million
people in the Atlanta area depend on it. There is also the fact this
this lake is under the Army Corps managment. At present they are
letting out about twice the amount of water that is coming in. This has
alot to do with the tri-state water war that has been going on since I
have been here (about 10 years)

The Corps has stated that they are keeping the discharge rate as it is
to protect some shellfish that need it in in Florida. That being where
the water hit the ocean. Alabama also uses/needs this water. Thus the
tri-state angle on the water resources war.

As far as impact on boating - Some ramps are closed and there are
hazzards to navigation that would not normally exist. But that is what
happens when water gets lower them normal.

If you are really interested:

http://lanier.sam.usace.army.mil/Pre...ersCaution.pdf
Capt Jack R..

I was looking earlier for a current aerial or low satellite photo of the
lake, but then I was distracted by work. With all the dead marine life
now on the edges of the lake, there must be an insect and rat problem.

I don't pay attention to Atlanta weather patterns. Is there a winter
rainy season? If not, then the city may be reduced to Homeland Security
bringing in water trucks.
Not from our Lakes.........the Great Lakes.....the largest amount of
fresh water in the world and quite a resource for the Canadians and
Americans living close enough to enjoy the Lakes.

Let Lanier dry up. After all, it is nothing more than a recreational
lake.........correct?

First and foremost, I believe, it is a reservoir.

Bottled water.




Well, I don't much like Atlanta, but I don't have contempt for it. I do
like the Georgia coast.

Now, Texas...that's another matter. What an awful place.

JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
news Jack Redington wrote:
HK wrote:
CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water
levels are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted
rain soon,
a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought.

Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with
dead shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded.

What's the impact on boating?

While I no longer boat on Lanier, from the news many ramps are
closed. At the present time that lake is about 12 below full pool. At
least that was the last time I checked. Projections do not look good.

Georgia has been in drought conditions all of this year. Spring rains
were slight and every month has been a short. So it is not really
news anymore. Lanier has several problems when rain is short. For one
the drainage basin is small for a lake it's size. And about 6 million
people in the Atlanta area depend on it. There is also the fact this
this lake is under the Army Corps managment. At present they are
letting out about twice the amount of water that is coming in. This
has alot to do with the tri-state water war that has been going on
since I have been here (about 10 years)

The Corps has stated that they are keeping the discharge rate as it
is to protect some shellfish that need it in in Florida. That being
where the water hit the ocean. Alabama also uses/needs this water.
Thus the tri-state angle on the water resources war.

As far as impact on boating - Some ramps are closed and there are
hazzards to navigation that would not normally exist. But that is
what happens when water gets lower them normal.

If you are really interested:

http://lanier.sam.usace.army.mil/Pre...ersCaution.pdf
Capt Jack R..

I was looking earlier for a current aerial or low satellite photo of
the lake, but then I was distracted by work. With all the dead marine
life now on the edges of the lake, there must be an insect and rat
problem.

I don't pay attention to Atlanta weather patterns. Is there a winter
rainy season? If not, then the city may be reduced to Homeland
Security bringing in water trucks.
Not from our Lakes.........the Great Lakes.....the largest amount of
fresh water in the world and quite a resource for the Canadians and
Americans living close enough to enjoy the Lakes.

Let Lanier dry up. After all, it is nothing more than a recreational
lake.........correct?
First and foremost, I believe, it is a reservoir.
Bottled water.

Well, I don't much like Atlanta, but I don't have contempt for it. I do
like the Georgia coast.

Now, Texas...that's another matter. What an awful place.

I don't have any contempt for Atlanta either.............but the water is
ours, not theirs. Believe me, this is becoming more and more of an
issue.......with Canada in the mix also as they have an equal stake on the
fresh water held in those Great Lakes.



Did I miss something? Who the heck was talking about trucking in water
from the Great Lakes to Atlanta?

On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:41:31 -0400, HK wrote:


I don't pay attention to Atlanta weather patterns. Is there a winter
rainy season? If not, then the city may be reduced to Homeland Security
bringing in water trucks.

About 10-15 years ago, I seem to remember Georgia having a severe drought. What surprised
me then, was how localized it was. IIRC, the rest of the country was having a normal amount of
rainfall. This doesn't seem to be the case this time. While not yet in drought conditions, we
seem to be quite a bit short of normal precipitation here.

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ups.com...
On Oct 15, 10:13 am, wrote:
On Oct 15, 10:06 am, "Don White" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message

...

CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water
levels are
way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon,
a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought.

Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead
shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded.

What's the impact on boating?

Good thing Waylon doesn't boat much. Shouldn't affect him.

Is Lanier a man made lake?

Yes, it's dammed. It's big, though, 900 miles of shoreline, at least
when it was full, it's down about 12' now. The good thing is it's
deep.


It is not deep if 12' decrease puts it in the condition it is in. Deep in
California is like Oroville. Down 200' and still parts of the lake are 400'
deep.

"JimH" ask wrote in message
...

I don't have any contempt for Atlanta either.............but the water is
ours, not theirs. Believe me, this is becoming more and more of an
issue.......with Canada in the mix also as they have an equal stake on the
fresh water held in those Great Lakes.


On occasion we'll see something in the news on that issue.
I guess the nightmare scenario would be the US deciding on it's own to
divert hugh amounts of fresh water from the Great Lakes to satisfy dry areas
in the south and south-west.
Look what happened to the Colorado River.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_River

On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:14:20 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels
|are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon,
|a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought.
|
|Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead
|shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded.
|
|What's the impact on boating?

Not just Lake Lanier! While some areas of the US are flooding,
throughout the southeast there are boats high and dry and grass
growing where there should be water.

Looks pretty bad:
http://drought.unl.edu/dm/monitor.html

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HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
news
Jack Redington wrote:
HK wrote:
CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water
levels are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious
protracted rain soon,
a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought.

Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with
dead shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded.

What's the impact on boating?

While I no longer boat on Lanier, from the news many ramps are
closed. At the present time that lake is about 12 below full pool.
At least that was the last time I checked. Projections do not look
good.

Georgia has been in drought conditions all of this year. Spring
rains were slight and every month has been a short. So it is not
really news anymore. Lanier has several problems when rain is short.
For one the drainage basin is small for a lake it's size. And about
6 million people in the Atlanta area depend on it. There is also the
fact this this lake is under the Army Corps managment. At present
they are letting out about twice the amount of water that is coming
in. This has alot to do with the tri-state water war that has been
going on since I have been here (about 10 years)

The Corps has stated that they are keeping the discharge rate as it
is to protect some shellfish that need it in in Florida. That being
where the water hit the ocean. Alabama also uses/needs this water.
Thus the tri-state angle on the water resources war.

As far as impact on boating - Some ramps are closed and there are
hazzards to navigation that would not normally exist. But that is
what happens when water gets lower them normal.

If you are really interested:

http://lanier.sam.usace.army.mil/Pre...ersCaution.pdf
Capt Jack R..


I was looking earlier for a current aerial or low satellite photo of
the lake, but then I was distracted by work. With all the dead marine
life now on the edges of the lake, there must be an insect and rat
problem.

I don't pay attention to Atlanta weather patterns. Is there a winter
rainy season? If not, then the city may be reduced to Homeland
Security bringing in water trucks.

Not from our Lakes.........the Great Lakes.....the largest amount of
fresh water in the world and quite a resource for the Canadians and
Americans living close enough to enjoy the Lakes.

Let Lanier dry up. After all, it is nothing more than a recreational
lake.........correct?



First and foremost, I believe, it is a reservoir.

No. Flood Control.

Rob

HK wrote in news:Jo2dncafEaYy-
:

CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water
levels
are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted
rain soon,
a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought.

Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line
with dead
shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded.

What's the impact on boating?


Everybody's lake in the South is in the same condition:
http://river-depth.com/hsas/
CAE is Columbia, SC area
CHS is Charleston, but most of our rivers keep going up and down
every 6 hours or so...about 6 feet this time of year!
(c.



Larry
--
You can tell there's extremely
intelligent life in the universe
because they have never called Earth.

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:54:51 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:54:02 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Oct 15, 7:44?am, wrote:

So then you must agree it is OK to alter the course of nature in
order
to serve the growing human population?- Hide quoted text -


Careful, that statement is getting pretty close to recognizing the
possibility that a growing human population *could* "alter the course
of nature".


Then slowing down the rate of growth may be a cost effective way of
dealing
with the problem, as opposed to making Al Gore more wealthy?


It would be impossible for it NOT to help, but it's a touchy subject.
Zero
population growth? Watch the reactions to that in subsequent messages.


The emphasis was on cost effective means of dealing with a problem, as
opposed to sending money to Al Gore.

'Zero population gowth' is your term, not mine. I'm not trying to
engender
any reaction to that in any messages. But, it looks like you are.

It's a theory, and the name of an organization which, for many years, has
tried to push an agenda of not having more than 2 kids, so a couple only
replaces itself without adding population. Naturally, there are people who
think its inevitable that suggestions will become laws, and such people
refuse to think about controlling population growth.

That is amazing, our so called "leaders" can't acknowledge more people is
more influence in the environment. Anyone take a look at Africa's birth
rate, scary indeed.

Last time we went out about 3 weeks ago we went down to the dam area and it
was ok there. Falls is not down as much as the rest but it's down enough
that some ramps are closed and you really need to pay attention. This
happens occasionally around here. We have seen the lakes get low two other
years since we've lived here. Hasn't stopped us from boating though. We're
into water sports so it's usually cooling off by the time the lakes are
really low and that's about when we stop boating anyway. The droughts are
usually because of a dry summer so on the plus side there is less rain to
keep us from boating because of the weather.

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:03:43 -0700, jamesgangnc

wrote:

On Oct 15, 11:07 am, wrote:
On Oct 15, 10:57 am, wrote:

The trouble with your type,
is that you don't think that anything that man can do will have an
adverse affect on the environment

What a dumb statement. You don't know "my type". Here's a clue. I grew
up in the woods and fields and have a 'leave nothing but footprints"
attitude toward my outdoor play. But you just keep up the close minded
stand and you will surely be dismissed by rational people. When was
the last time you took a walk on the beach with your wife and carried
a garbage bag... we carry one as part of our "go bag".... Do you?

Many of the lakes in the southeast are man made and are used for water
supply. There are not that many natural lakes occuring in the
southeast. Most also are used for recreational purposes. All the
lakes I've boated in in NC are man made. Around Raleigh Lake Jordan
and Falls Lake are both man made. As well as Hyco, Mayo, and Wheeler
plus others. On the Roanoke, Philpot, Kerr, and Gaston are all man
made. There has been drought conditions in the southeast above
florida most of the summer and lots of the lakes are down many feet.

My neighbor, who moved up here (DC area) from Raleigh says that Falls Lake
is getting too shallow for boating. Of course, I just bought a new boat
and
am planning (tentatively) to move to the Wake Forest area and use Falls
Lake.

How are the boating conditions down there now?