HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:57:32 -0400, HK wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:
Northwest 42’s are vacuum infused composite construction...

Yeah, so are some lightweight canoes. What, exactly, is the
lamination schedule on this Nordhavn knockoff?

Harry, the article was written for the enjoyment of us who just want to
read about new boats. It wasn't written to answer all the questions of a
fiberglass engineer such as yourself.

How about every 37 minutes as the schedule?


"infused composite" isn't necessarily "fiberglass." My canoe, as I said,
is infused composite. It isn't fiberglass.

Got it?

Harry,
Chuck will never write a review of a boat that will meet your
expectations. You will never read a review in any magazine that meets
your expectations. It is best if you ignore his reviews, like he
suggested. Got it?

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:57:32 -0400, HK wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:
Northwest 42’s are vacuum infused composite construction...

Yeah, so are some lightweight canoes. What, exactly, is the
lamination schedule on this Nordhavn knockoff?

Harry, the article was written for the enjoyment of us who just want to
read about new boats. It wasn't written to answer all the questions of a
fiberglass engineer such as yourself.

How about every 37 minutes as the schedule?


"infused composite" isn't necessarily "fiberglass." My canoe, as I
said, is infused composite. It isn't fiberglass.

Got it?

Harry,
Chuck will never write a review of a boat that will meet your
expectations. You will never read a review in any magazine that meets
your expectations. It is best if you ignore his reviews, like he
suggested. Got it?



Chuck doesn't write boat "reviews." He writes boat advertorials.
Some of us who actually care about boats and know a little about them,
people like me, are intrigued when an unexplained material is being used
in an expensive new boat. Some of us who don't care about boats and no
nothing about them, people like you, don't notice the significance of an
unexplained material used in an expensive new boat.

There are many materials that can be used in "infused" composite
boatbuilding, including carbon fiber, fiberglass, kevlar, even wood
strips. Is the thermosetting material epoxy? Vinylester? It isn't even
clear the hull material is solid, as opposed to cored.

On Oct 17, 1:57 pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

Northwest 42's are vacuum infused composite construction...

Yeah, so are some lightweight canoes. What, exactly, is the lamination
schedule on this Nordhavn knockoff?

Can't tell you that I know.

I will say that it would make very uninteresting reading and would be
inconsistent with a general skim-over description of a boat.

I suppose that's the first question you ask of every exhibitor at your
local boat show? I'd venture to say you'd get conflicting answers for
most products, with at least a few layers of BS ("biaxial stranding"
of course) thrown into most laminates for good measure.

It's not a Nordhavn knockoff in the least....Nordhavn's of similar
size are
generally displacement hulls and this boat is semi-displacement. (I
think Nordhavn might have something down in the mid-30's that is a
semi, but I'd have to check to confirm).

On Oct 17, 3:21 pm, John H. wrote:
On 17 Oct 2007 13:50:39 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:





Fair warning: Those who are offended by posts including a description
of a vessel offered for sale should proceed to the next item in the
NG. Thanks.

******************

Readers of this publication may recall a series of short items
documenting the construction of the new Northwest 42 trawler. Hull #1
("Nor'wester") debuted at the September Boats Afloat Show in Seattle,
and we got an opportunity to get underway in this new boat during the
Anacortes Boat Show on Saturday, October 6. After following this
vessel through every stage from the drawing board to bare hull to
systems installation and final completion, it was gratifying to
experience the final results first hand.

The Northwest 42 is built in Anacortes Washington, and is a single
engine, coastal cruising, semi-displacement pilothouse trawler.
"Nor'wester" has a high bow with graceful flare that will provide
reserve buoyancy in head seas. Her hard chines extend forward to the
stem, where they are elevated slightly above the waterline to
additionally retard spray. A Portuguese bridge additionally protects
the pilothouse from any "greenies" washing over the foredeck offshore.
The pilothouse features raked windows below a protruding brow, with
access to the flybridge up steps on the port side just aft of the
pilothouse door.

Beautiful boat! Let's see....if I sold the house, both cars, the
motorcycle, and kept the Key West for the dingy. Hey - that might work!- Hide quoted text -

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I liked this boat a lot.

I can give you almost 900,000 reasons why I won't be affording one any
time soon, but there are vast numbers of folks with a lot more money
than my modest little pile and some who are more willing to direct a
greater percentage of their assets into boat ownership. I think that
with production ramped up to full tilt they will only be building
about two dozen of these a year, so they don't need a large number of
people willing and able to buy one- just a number of the right people.

If I ever have a single screw boat built to my specifications
it will very likely include an articulating rudder.

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:43:51 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:57:32 -0400, HK wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:
Northwest 42’s are vacuum infused composite construction...

Yeah, so are some lightweight canoes. What, exactly, is the
lamination schedule on this Nordhavn knockoff?

Harry, the article was written for the enjoyment of us who just want to
read about new boats. It wasn't written to answer all the questions of a
fiberglass engineer such as yourself.

How about every 37 minutes as the schedule?

"infused composite" isn't necessarily "fiberglass." My canoe, as I said,
is infused composite. It isn't fiberglass.

Got it?

Harry,
Chuck will never write a review of a boat that will meet your
expectations. You will never read a review in any magazine that meets
your expectations. It is best if you ignore his reviews, like he
suggested. Got it?

Well, that's stritcly evidential.

I mean he did buy a Parker.

With a Yamaha.

Four stroke.

On 17 Oct 2007 13:50:39 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

Retail pricing for a well-appointed Northwest 42 approaches $900,000.
Critics will surely point out that there are a lot of boats available
on the market for less money. The critics are right. The Northwest 42
isn’t for everybody, but will most definitely appeal to a group of
experienced boaters with a sophisticated list of features and
characteristics they have learned to look for in a boat; (and who have
the means to enjoy owning a boat built up to a high standard, rather
than down to a low price).

You didn't find it top heavy?

It looks really unbalanced. Not that it is, just looks like it.

Neat article - not my cup of tea unfortunately.

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:57:32 -0400, HK wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:
Northwest 42’s are vacuum infused composite construction...

Yeah, so are some lightweight canoes. What, exactly, is the
lamination schedule on this Nordhavn knockoff?

Harry, the article was written for the enjoyment of us who just want to
read about new boats. It wasn't written to answer all the questions
of a
fiberglass engineer such as yourself.

How about every 37 minutes as the schedule?


"infused composite" isn't necessarily "fiberglass." My canoe, as I
said, is infused composite. It isn't fiberglass.

Got it?

Harry,
Chuck will never write a review of a boat that will meet your
expectations. You will never read a review in any magazine that meets
your expectations. It is best if you ignore his reviews, like he
suggested. Got it?



Chuck doesn't write boat "reviews." He writes boat advertorials.
Some of us who actually care about boats and know a little about them,
people like me, are intrigued when an unexplained material is being used
in an expensive new boat. Some of us who don't care about boats and no
nothing about them, people like you, don't notice the significance of an
unexplained material used in an expensive new boat.

There are many materials that can be used in "infused" composite
boatbuilding, including carbon fiber, fiberglass, kevlar, even wood
strips. Is the thermosetting material epoxy? Vinylester? It isn't even
clear the hull material is solid, as opposed to cored.

If you want quality, then why did you buy that LTP?

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:57:32 -0400, HK wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:
Northwest 42’s are vacuum infused composite construction...

Yeah, so are some lightweight canoes. What, exactly, is the
lamination schedule on this Nordhavn knockoff?

Harry, the article was written for the enjoyment of us who just want to
read about new boats. It wasn't written to answer all the questions
of a
fiberglass engineer such as yourself.

How about every 37 minutes as the schedule?


"infused composite" isn't necessarily "fiberglass." My canoe, as I
said, is infused composite. It isn't fiberglass.

Got it?

Harry,
Chuck will never write a review of a boat that will meet your
expectations. You will never read a review in any magazine that meets
your expectations. It is best if you ignore his reviews, like he
suggested. Got it?



Chuck doesn't write boat "reviews." He writes boat advertorials.
Some of us who actually care about boats and know a little about them,
people like me, are intrigued when an unexplained material is being used
in an expensive new boat. Some of us who don't care about boats and no
nothing about them, people like you, don't notice the significance of an
unexplained material used in an expensive new boat.

There are many materials that can be used in "infused" composite
boatbuilding, including carbon fiber, fiberglass, kevlar, even wood
strips. Is the thermosetting material epoxy? Vinylester? It isn't even
clear the hull material is solid, as opposed to cored.

PS - Since you know he want write a real "review", why do you bother to
read them?

I would be interested in reading what you consider a good review.

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:58:35 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

It's not a Nordhavn knockoff in the least....Nordhavn's of similar
size are
generally displacement hulls and this boat is semi-displacement. (I
think Nordhavn might have something down in the mid-30's that is a
semi, but I'd have to check to confirm).

It's amusing that Harry has taken this sudden interest in large
displacement trawlers. Perhaps he took a little slop over his low
transom during the recent northwesterly tostito that kept him
confined to the Patuxent River. We were out in mid Chesapeake that
day having a fine time not far from our LT hero's home base.

Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 17, 1:57 pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

Northwest 42's are vacuum infused composite construction...
Yeah, so are some lightweight canoes. What, exactly, is the lamination
schedule on this Nordhavn knockoff?

Can't tell you that I know.

I will say that it would make very uninteresting reading and would be
inconsistent with a general skim-over description of a boat.

I suppose that's the first question you ask of every exhibitor at your
local boat show? I'd venture to say you'd get conflicting answers for
most products, with at least a few layers of BS ("biaxial stranding"
of course) thrown into most laminates for good measure.

It's not a Nordhavn knockoff in the least....Nordhavn's of similar
size are
generally displacement hulls and this boat is semi-displacement. (I
think Nordhavn might have something down in the mid-30's that is a
semi, but I'd have to check to confirm).




I was commenting on its looks, and posted two photos. It looks like a
knock-off of a Nordhavn.