Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:58:35 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

It's not a Nordhavn knockoff in the least....Nordhavn's of similar
size are
generally displacement hulls and this boat is semi-displacement. (I
think Nordhavn might have something down in the mid-30's that is a
semi, but I'd have to check to confirm).

It's amusing that Harry has taken this sudden interest in large
displacement trawlers. Perhaps he took a little slop over his low
transom during the recent northwesterly tostito that kept him
confined to the Patuxent River. We were out in mid Chesapeake that
day having a fine time not far from our LT hero's home base.


Out in the mid bay having a fine time? Doing what? There's nothing out
in the mid bay.

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:15:18 -0400, HK wrote:

It's amusing that Harry has taken this sudden interest in large
displacement trawlers. Perhaps he took a little slop over his low
transom during the recent northwesterly tostito that kept him
confined to the Patuxent River. We were out in mid Chesapeake that
day having a fine time not far from our LT hero's home base.


Out in the mid bay having a fine time? Doing what? There's nothing out
in the mid bay.

Really? Are you sure?

Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:15:18 -0400, HK wrote:

It's amusing that Harry has taken this sudden interest in large
displacement trawlers. Perhaps he took a little slop over his low
transom during the recent northwesterly tostito that kept him
confined to the Patuxent River. We were out in mid Chesapeake that
day having a fine time not far from our LT hero's home base.

Out in the mid bay having a fine time? Doing what? There's nothing out
in the mid bay.

Really? Are you sure?


I've been out in "mid Chesapeake" a zillion times, Wayne. There's a
couple of little islands directly across the bay from my house, adjacent
to "the other side. There's nothing between here and there but water,
buoys, and a few fishing spots. On most clear days, I can look across
and see the western side of the Eastern Shore.

Now, if you go south towards the lower Bay, there are some islands out
in the Bay a little ways. Been there, too. Maybe you are playing
geographic games and defining "mid Chesapeake" differently, but "mid
Chesapeake" to me means...the navigational channel.

Being out in the middle of the Bay driving a powerboat is...well, kinda
boring. On a nice windy day, though, being on a sailboat out there is
fun. Being on a floating winnebago like you drive...nah.

HK wrote:
having a fine time not far from our LT hero's home base.

Out in the mid bay having a fine time? Doing what? There's nothing
out in the mid bay.

Really? Are you sure?


I've been out in "mid Chesapeake" a zillion times, Wayne. There's a
couple of little islands directly across the bay from my house, adjacent
to "the other side. There's nothing between here and there but water,
buoys, and a few fishing spots. On most clear days, I can look across
and see the western side of the Eastern Shore.

Now, if you go south towards the lower Bay, there are some islands out
in the Bay a little ways. Been there, too. Maybe you are playing
geographic games and defining "mid Chesapeake" differently, but "mid
Chesapeake" to me means...the navigational channel.

Being out in the middle of the Bay driving a powerboat is...well, kinda
boring. On a nice windy day, though, being on a sailboat out there is
fun. Being on a floating winnebago like you drive...nah.

Harry,
Since there is nothing to do and boring, why did you do it a zillion
times? I am curious, how did you get out the middle of the bay a
zillion times, and only put 25 hrs a year on your boat? Floating?

On Oct 17, 5:47 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On 17 Oct 2007 13:50:39 -0700, Chuck Gould

wrote:
Retail pricing for a well-appointed Northwest 42 approaches $900,000.
Critics will surely point out that there are a lot of boats available
on the market for less money. The critics are right. The Northwest 42
isn't for everybody, but will most definitely appeal to a group of
experienced boaters with a sophisticated list of features and
characteristics they have learned to look for in a boat; (and who have
the means to enjoy owning a boat built up to a high standard, rather
than down to a low price).

You didn't find it top heavy?

It looks really unbalanced. Not that it is, just looks like it.

Neat article - not my cup of tea unfortunately.

I think that if it were unduly top heavy, we would have noticed it
while doing those amusement park grade high speed turns with that
articulating rudder.

The best test, of course, is a serious beam sea. Alas, we can't always
insist on stormy weather when trying out a boat. :-)

On Oct 17, 5:47 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On 17 Oct 2007 13:50:39 -0700, Chuck Gould

wrote:
Retail pricing for a well-appointed Northwest 42 approaches $900,000.
Critics will surely point out that there are a lot of boats available
on the market for less money. The critics are right. The Northwest 42
isn't for everybody, but will most definitely appeal to a group of
experienced boaters with a sophisticated list of features and
characteristics they have learned to look for in a boat; (and who have
the means to enjoy owning a boat built up to a high standard, rather
than down to a low price).

You didn't find it top heavy?

It looks really unbalanced. Not that it is, just looks like it.

Neat article - not my cup of tea unfortunately.

Oh.....I just found this site:


http://nwtrawlers.blogspot.com/


Peter and Jan Whiting are taking the NW 42 down the Pacific Coast.
They're almost to Oregon, and headed to San Diego.

Anybody intersted in how this boat handles in rough weather can check
the blog......this time of year they will have *plenty* of gnarly
weather to deal with. Coastal forecast for Thursday is calling for
sustained winds of 40 knots with higher gusts........("Auntie Em!")

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:15:18 -0400, HK wrote:

It's amusing that Harry has taken this sudden interest in large
displacement trawlers. Perhaps he took a little slop over his low
transom during the recent northwesterly tostito that kept him
confined to the Patuxent River. We were out in mid Chesapeake that
day having a fine time not far from our LT hero's home base.

Out in the mid bay having a fine time? Doing what? There's nothing out
in the mid bay.

Really? Are you sure?


I've been out in "mid Chesapeake" a zillion times, Wayne. There's a
couple of little islands directly across the bay from my house, adjacent
to "the other side. There's nothing between here and there but water,
buoys, and a few fishing spots. On most clear days, I can look across
and see the western side of the Eastern Shore.

Now, if you go south towards the lower Bay, there are some islands out
in the Bay a little ways. Been there, too. Maybe you are playing
geographic games and defining "mid Chesapeake" differently, but "mid
Chesapeake" to me means...the navigational channel.

Being out in the middle of the Bay driving a powerboat is...well, kinda
boring. On a nice windy day, though, being on a sailboat out there is
fun. Being on a floating winnebago like you drive...nah.


Harry, it's interesting that you often express a "my way or no way" attitude
about boating. But, then again, you seem to often have that attitude about
many things.

For example, limiting the boating experience to a small, open boat that is
used primarily to go fishing in a very limited regional area would bore me
to tears. But, I understand why it floats other's boats and I even have a
small boat myself that I occasionally use for that purpose.

Others travel, enjoy the "live-aboard" experience and are intrigued by
navigating to new areas, new ports and seeing new things. Realistically,
you need a big boat with room, comfort and amenities for others besides just
yourself.

Speaking from a somewhat limited experience when compared to others,
cruising along offshore in a big boat with a destination 150 miles away can
be a very enjoyable, relaxing and mentally stimulating experience for some
of us. The challenges of weather, unfamiliar ports and navigation
requirements makes it interesting .... to me anyway.

But, having said all that, I also realize that if you didn't have the
attitude you often express about other people's interests, boating or
otherwise, you would have very little to discuss in this NG.

Not an argument .... just an observation.

Eisboch

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ps.com...

Oh.....I just found this site:


http://nwtrawlers.blogspot.com/


Peter and Jan Whiting are taking the NW 42 down the Pacific Coast.
They're almost to Oregon, and headed to San Diego.

Anybody intersted in how this boat handles in rough weather can check
the blog......this time of year they will have *plenty* of gnarly
weather to deal with. Coastal forecast for Thursday is calling for
sustained winds of 40 knots with higher gusts........("Auntie Em!")


Nice looking boat and interesting design. Interestingly, this is the second
time in the past week that I've heard about articulating rudders. The first
was with a very experienced sailboater and boat builder here at Kingman.

I realize that the NW 42 is a new trawler type boat design but I am not sure
I am ready to accept the radar arch instead of a traditional mast. The
arch is probably more functional and convenient, but it just doesn't look
right to me on this type of boat.

Eisboch

On Oct 17, 5:47 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On 17 Oct 2007 13:50:39 -0700, Chuck Gould

wrote:
Retail pricing for a well-appointed Northwest 42 approaches $900,000.
Critics will surely point out that there are a lot of boats available
on the market for less money. The critics are right. The Northwest 42
isn't for everybody, but will most definitely appeal to a group of
experienced boaters with a sophisticated list of features and
characteristics they have learned to look for in a boat; (and who have
the means to enjoy owning a boat built up to a high standard, rather
than down to a low price).

You didn't find it top heavy?

It looks really unbalanced. Not that it is, just looks like it.

Neat article - not my cup of tea unfortunately.

I think that if it were unduly top heavy, we would have noticed it
while doing those amusement park grade high speed turns with that
articulating rudder.

The best test, of course, is a serious beam sea. Alas, we can't always
insist on stormy weather when trying out a boat. :-)

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:15:18 -0400, HK wrote:

It's amusing that Harry has taken this sudden interest in large
displacement trawlers. Perhaps he took a little slop over his low
transom during the recent northwesterly tostito that kept him
confined to the Patuxent River. We were out in mid Chesapeake that
day having a fine time not far from our LT hero's home base.
Out in the mid bay having a fine time? Doing what? There's nothing out
in the mid bay.
Really? Are you sure?

I've been out in "mid Chesapeake" a zillion times, Wayne. There's a
couple of little islands directly across the bay from my house, adjacent
to "the other side. There's nothing between here and there but water,
buoys, and a few fishing spots. On most clear days, I can look across
and see the western side of the Eastern Shore.

Now, if you go south towards the lower Bay, there are some islands out
in the Bay a little ways. Been there, too. Maybe you are playing
geographic games and defining "mid Chesapeake" differently, but "mid
Chesapeake" to me means...the navigational channel.

Being out in the middle of the Bay driving a powerboat is...well, kinda
boring. On a nice windy day, though, being on a sailboat out there is
fun. Being on a floating winnebago like you drive...nah.


Harry, it's interesting that you often express a "my way or no way" attitude
about boating. But, then again, you seem to often have that attitude about
many things.

For example, limiting the boating experience to a small, open boat that is
used primarily to go fishing in a very limited regional area would bore me
to tears. But, I understand why it floats other's boats and I even have a
small boat myself that I occasionally use for that purpose.

Others travel, enjoy the "live-aboard" experience and are intrigued by
navigating to new areas, new ports and seeing new things. Realistically,
you need a big boat with room, comfort and amenities for others besides just
yourself.

Speaking from a somewhat limited experience when compared to others,
cruising along offshore in a big boat with a destination 150 miles away can
be a very enjoyable, relaxing and mentally stimulating experience for some
of us. The challenges of weather, unfamiliar ports and navigation
requirements makes it interesting .... to me anyway.

But, having said all that, I also realize that if you didn't have the
attitude you often express about other people's interests, boating or
otherwise, you would have very little to discuss in this NG.

Not an argument .... just an observation.

Eisboch



"Getting there" on a powerboat to me is not as interesting as "being
there." That's especially true in the middle of the relatively
featureless body of water. I can appreciate that others might like the
nothingness of it. I hate flying long distances, but once I get to an
interesting locale, I typically like it a lot. In other words, I view
the vehicle as a means to an end. I don't much like driving the
Interstate highways, either, but sometimes I like where they lead.